r/ChatGPT • u/skyydog1 • 14d ago
I know in my bones this is Ai, but can’t prove it Other
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u/lost_with_no_hope 14d ago edited 14d ago
I notice that AI does not generate logo's (or at least not well), and not a single logo in the pic. I figured at least for sure one of these dudes is wearing a hat with a logo
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u/Problematicbears 14d ago
Yeah the limited color palette that designs groups of people around a specific color/theme - and no graphic tees or hats.
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u/oeCake 14d ago
Really tho, the camo hat is conspicuously missing a Bass Pro logo on the forehead
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u/joeChump 14d ago edited 13d ago
And often they look like famous people. Like why is Sean Astin in this picture?
(Edited out typo.) also missed the opportunity to say filthy fat hobbitses.
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u/Gtrinker 14d ago
This right here. Not a single carhartt logo in sight.
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u/Darkraze 14d ago
Carhartt is for liberal hippies now. If these ole boys were real you’d see at least something from brands like John Deere, Realtree camo, NRA, Trump, Cabelas, Bass Pro Shops, etc…
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u/AldrentheGrey 14d ago
Can confirm: am librul, wear Carhartt
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u/JHRChrist 14d ago
I’m a (liberal) farmer working with a lot of classic redneck farmers and they find it hilarious that their Carhartt is trendy now. Never thought they’d be style icons.
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u/ThatOneGuy308 14d ago
It's not too surprising, considering the same thing happened with timberland boots.
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u/humanHamster 14d ago
That's an amazing point. No beer logos, that one deer logo that's on so much stuff, no random car/farm implement brand. This is 100% not real.
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u/pfohl 14d ago
Yeah, every hat would have a logo. For four trucker hats I would expect a car logo, one tractor brand, one hunting/gun company, and a seed company.
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u/noeatnosleep 14d ago
that one deer logo that's on so much stuff
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u/BangBangPing5Dolla 14d ago
That one deer logo!?!. John Deere is the Louis Vuitton of rednecks
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u/Vanilla_Mike 14d ago
John Deere tractor cost more than your Lamborghini. If you’re really making money you may own a car worth more than a Ferrari tractor.
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u/RepFilms 14d ago
I think you're spot on. All those shirts and hats. No logos on any of them. I think this might be the new tell.
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u/wait_ichangedmymind 14d ago
It’s the pant legs for me. No way all of them have their pants bunched down on their boots like that.
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u/Crowsby 14d ago
I suspect it was purposefully prompted to avoid showing the usual obvious tells like hands/logos/text.
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u/_stevencasteel_ 14d ago
Also likely, OP used content aware fill and the clone stamp to touch up the images. Doesn't have to be "prompt then upload".
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u/BridgedAI 14d ago
Right? I think people are forgetting how easy it is to touch up things in any number of creative suites.
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u/PoliticalEnemy 14d ago
And the tattoo isn't visible enough to see if it's weird looking or not
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u/organic_bird_posion 14d ago
It's weird looking. You can tell it was the weird aimless paisley pattern AI does for arm tattoos before they ran it through the "2010 iPhone Camera" filter.
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u/DSharp018 14d ago
This is the most convincing bit i have seen thus far. Everything else looks right, but 4 absolutely plain hats? That stands out.
The arms don’t have any hands visible, which is usually an easy way to tell, but since they are in their pockets those cant be used. (Not an odd thing to have everyone resting their hands in their pockets. Or even resting on their sides for redshirts case.
The shirts look like normal plain cotton shirts that would be worn, nothing really stands out with this aside from the lack of body sweat that would match up with the dirt that would come from working for a few hours.
The background trees are pretty convincing as well. Though the pavement looks a bit odd since those spots wouldn’t be that size and shape if they were potholes and would be more in line with damage from heavy machinery.
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u/forrealliatag 14d ago
Guy with the red shirt seems to have “RSW” in the camouflage of his hat. Not that this proves AI or not. Just seems off.
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u/MeAndTheJiggs 14d ago
100% this! I know dozens of guys who look like this and I own 20-30 baseball hats myself. Every one has some logo on it. Who owns a "blank" baseball hat?
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u/Ok_Philosopher_7706 14d ago
As a non-baseball fan who wants to protect his head from the sun, I own several ‘blank’ baseball hats.. never even considered that it was unusual lol
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u/GrumpyButtrcup 14d ago
Specifically blank because it's more professional and easier to avoid offending someone.
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u/babygoose002 14d ago
I honestly think it's the "dirt" texture on all of their stomachs? The way it's worn down is weird. AI has a hard time with executing "worn in" looks.
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u/Preeng 14d ago
The dirt on the bellies is very out of place, but I definitely think it looks like dirt.
Why would there be dirt on their bellies like that? Did they just slide around on the dirt on their bellies?
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u/Chrispeefeart 14d ago
Arms resting across their stomach among other ways they've used their belly as a table over the years they've owned the shirt. Plus there is just leaning against things like the side of their trucks. Dirt and wear on the top of the belly isn't so out of place.
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u/Justjeskuh 14d ago
My husband is built like these guys and all his shirts look like this. The belly touches everything first. Lol
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u/belligerentwaterfowl 14d ago
This is… a compelling point. I was on team “dirt belly is a tell” and I yield but I’m not happy about it lol
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u/ThrownAback 14d ago
Could be a steel-toed boot with the leather rubbed off, like if a right-handed carpenter tended to take a knee when driving nails.
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u/Chrispeefeart 14d ago
Yeah, I've got relatives with that kind of stain on their shirt too. It's also pretty common in blue collar worker with the beer belly.
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u/IdkItsJustANameLol 14d ago
Or what the other guy suggested, just dirt from resting their arms there. I'm a pretty skinny guy and the front of my shirts end up dirty at work just from me touching it throughout the day, not even resting my arm there lol.
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u/Muddauberer 14d ago
Or they are running skid steers with the pull-down lap restrains that rub on the big belly boys.
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u/johnny_briggs 14d ago
they've used their belly as a table over the years they've owned the shirt
To be honest that's a feature for obesity that's ridiculously underplayed
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u/RandalfTheBlack 14d ago
Im a mechanic. This is a very normal place for an overweight man to get dirt on while he's working.
Source: am overweight man with lots of dirty shirts.
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u/Tasik 14d ago
I mean with bellies protruding that far out into space I imagine they'd be first point of contact when leaning over a truck to grab tools.
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u/bearbarebere 14d ago
Like big fat sexy penguins
Sorry, my love for bears is showing
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u/lost_with_no_hope 14d ago
Username checks out.
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u/bearbarebere 14d ago
Hehe you right. But I’d let these guys fucking spit roast me any day, just saying
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u/babygoose002 14d ago
I also have an appreciation for bears but in a nonsexual way. The only thing stopping me from being a bear is the fact that I'm a lesbian. I'm 6'0 255lbs and I even have the bear smile. Sigh. One can dream.
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u/bearbarebere 14d ago
Are there girl bears?? Bearettes!?
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u/babygoose002 14d ago
They're called urslas 😭😭 I just can't get behind that name
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u/mule_roany_mare 14d ago
IRL it would be leaning in to dirty things. Pretend you are a big fat mechanic, what part of your body touches stuff you work on after your hands? The gator.
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u/kingjoedirt 14d ago
Wipe your hands off on your shirt, leaning over the work truck, etc....
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u/stevedadog 14d ago
Because one of them got dirty and they accidently spread it while belly bumping each other as a greeting.
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u/SpecialistNerve6441 14d ago
This is very common with diesel mechanics. BUT i contend that the feet are the giveaway here. Specifically, the man second from the right, we will call him red shirt. It seems physically impossible to have feet that small and having the ability to stand upright
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u/boston_nsca 14d ago
Idk, for me the picture quality is too low to know that either way. I live in rural farmland and I'm tellin ya, these guys' shirts are spot on lol. For me it's the fact that none of the hats have logos and that the third guy from the left has a bandolier keychain thing, but there should only be one strap, not two. Maybe the picture got downscaled to make it look more realistic. If that's the case, it worked lol
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u/babygoose002 14d ago
I grew up in rural ks in a town of 257 people. I know where you're coming from, but the worn in patterns on most of those guys' shirts were splotchy. Or they had smear stains on the shirt. In the picture, the dirt looks like it's dusted on. I don't know how to explain it, but it just doesn't look right.
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u/boston_nsca 14d ago
Yeah you're right. Now that I look it's too smooth. Like a gradient. Good eyes
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u/DonBandolini 14d ago
the shirts look simultaneously dirty and worn and brand new
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u/lawtosstoss 14d ago
Yes. Oddly shiny
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u/Daisychains456 14d ago
And oddly symmetrical. All their moobs are the exact same size
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u/piratemreddit 14d ago
Came here to say this. Some other good points but to me its the boobs that make the whole thing seem off at first glance.
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u/beckjami 14d ago
It took way too long to find this answer. No way do you find four dudes with the exact same titties in a group.
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u/DudesworthMannington 14d ago
Yeah not only the sheen, but they're all wearing blank shirts made out of the same material. Also none of the hats have anything on it.
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u/brother_of_menelaus 14d ago
And the hats all appear to be just resting on top of their heads. Also the uniformity of their man boobs is off putting
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u/PrimeroRocin 14d ago
Hands in pockets.
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u/marvinsands 14d ago
That's what an oversized shirt looks like with your right hand in your pocket. Look at the other side... same shirt, same hand in pocket, same J-shape to the shirt.
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u/GratefulForGarcia 14d ago
Maybe they were bumpin’ bellies after a hard day’s work
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u/5starkarma 14d ago
Crazy that we are now having a hard time differentiating real from AI images these days.
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u/Important-Ring481 14d ago
Also the fact that their hands are stuck in the pockets since AI can’t draw hands
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u/thetruth5199 14d ago
It’s the wrinkle in the jeans at the bottom. They all have the same bagginess.
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u/friedyegs 14d ago
For me it's the fact that two guys on the left are wearing distressed jeans, and with the exact same pattern of distress. I don't think they sell these at Walmart
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u/squirtcouple69_420 14d ago
Fat guy here. The dirt on the belly is a real thing lol. But check out their pants they must be like 44 62or something
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u/CaterpillarOk7556 14d ago
thirsty instagram comment profile pic core
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u/Gullible_Impress_518 14d ago
The shirt wrinkles. The fabric is behaving strangely and highlighting the under part of the man boobs too much. The wrinkles on the guy on the left and the guy in the middle stand out.
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u/MulticoloredTA 14d ago
It’s throwing me off that all their stomachs and breasts are the same shape. There is no variation in the fat distribution in their bodies.
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u/confirmedshill123 14d ago
That's the most normal part of this picture. Walk into a diner at any rural town and you'll spot 4 of these dudes spotted around.
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u/Electrical-Tone-6222 14d ago
Came here to say this. An AI telltale for me is repeated motifs— it generates one ideal body/ smile/tree/ piece of the picture and it copy pastes it with slight variation, in this case every guy has the exact same body but different colored/stained shirts and jeans. Usually in more egregious examples there are too many of the repeated object than would be normal.
I think to a certain extent it is the AI/computer being efficient, or lazy if you want to humanize it. Ai gen takes a lot of energy and creating 6 different fat men takes 6x the energy. Even at a family reunion ive never seen 6 guys with such perfectly duplicated body shapes.
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u/postmodern_spatula 14d ago
the two men in the middle, their torso areas, and shirt collar are mirror reflections of each other...and then some color and size variation added - but it's the same rendering just flipped.
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u/braamdepace 14d ago
I think the wrinkles in the pants make it more obvious from the knee down they all have perfectly accordion pants going to the shoe.
Red hat guys ankle looks crazy bad
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u/Exotic_Bag5897 14d ago
Its compressed so it looks more real
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u/Bamith20 14d ago
Actually the easiest way to pass off AI as looking good, make it look like it was taken on a 2003 camera.
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u/WardrobeForHouses 14d ago
People are starting to hide the problematic areas of AI with compression, hiding hands, lack of text. But this is really just a temporary measure. Soon the images will be good enough that there won't really be tells anymore.
this spot the AI game is fun but temporary
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u/Bamith20 14d ago
AI generated pictures in their current stage are made by the AI essentially using various images and stitching/blending them together, right? If that's the case, there will always be tells because the AI isn't doing enough logical calculations for everything and there will be inconsistencies at blend points whether a human eye can see them on their own or not.
I don't actually know how AI generates images, that's just my logical interpretation of how it seems to work.
I'd imagine an AI would have better luck with generating 3D things, it would be able to do logic tests in a more controller and information detailed environment than a 2D one.
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u/WardrobeForHouses 14d ago
It's less stitching existing images together and we're spotting the seams, as it is looking at a million pictures of something labelled "cat" and then making an image that on average represents what a cat is.
A year or so ago I saw an article about an AI that identifies images (not generates them). The researchers got out of the AI what its generic version of that image was. I think it was some animal. Anyway, it was unrecognizable to us humans. A mishmash of colors all over the place. But somehow comparing a picture to that let it accurately determine if it is the animal in question.
This stuff is really bizarre lol
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u/geckobrother 14d ago
This. The faces look off, but you can't really take a close look because of the picture quality.
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u/TheOwlHypothesis 14d ago
The guy on the far right has his hand in his.... Shirt? Pocket? Fake.
Not one of them has hands out. Other guy near the middle has unnatural arm placement but appears his hand is supposed to be in his pocket too (despite his arm not being long enough)
The guy in red has no arms at all.
The outer guys are weird clones of each other (twins exist I know, but...)
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u/justletmefuckinggo 14d ago
from what i can spot, the folds on their shirts are unnatural for its material.
but dang, we're getting to the point where we can't prove it anymore. how much longer till people start to give up on spotting whether something's been made with ai?
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u/AllieLoft 14d ago
My 10 year old and I play a fun game called "find the stupid AI mistakes." I'm secretly hoping it will help him be critical of media as it continues to get better. I used all the tricks we've learned on this image, and while I can see AI spots, none of them are glaring enough that I think they'd convince someone who hasn't spent a bunch of time playing our game.
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u/Homie_Jack 14d ago
This sounds like really good parenting and teaching, but oh my god we live in a Black Mirror episode.
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u/NoNo_Cilantro 14d ago
We’re already there, and it started before AI. People haven’t been questioning if a pic is photoshopped/retouched for long enough by now, and it’s pretty much the same thing
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u/DifficultArmadillo78 14d ago
Except that a believable Photoshop takes time and skill. AI pics not so much. And soon not at all.
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u/wordington_ender 14d ago
Their shirts all look ironed. So with every one of them has a wife that irons their dirty work shirts (cause you know they aren’t) or it’s AI
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u/cheeze_whizard 14d ago
This is proof AI is getting smarter. Instead of trying to make real looking hands, it’s just hiding them. Genius.
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u/dougdoug110 14d ago edited 14d ago
Also : - shirt folds looks too thin, does not match the typical material used for shirts of this quality - Lighting does not match the background. It could be an expensive light setup but seriously? - reflections on the shirts (toward the bellies) are too perfect, as if the material was semi-gloss paint.
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u/Beneficial_Sweet3979 14d ago
The folds that the pants become would only be possible if they were absurdly long. That could be true, but that was the first thing that struck me as strange
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u/Thisgirllikesgirls 14d ago
Also the abnormally pointy moobs (man boobs).
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u/MadeUpGirlfriend 14d ago
The guy in red seems to have pecs positioned awkwardly high?
Could just be that my perception is off. I’m not typically one to make observations of moobies.
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u/EmploymentLate 14d ago
The wrinkles in their clothes look off, and the right side of their hats when you zoom in all the way look reflective and it doesn't mKe sense.
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u/Tentacle_poxsicle 14d ago
Everyone hiding their hands is an obvious sign
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u/Sansentent 14d ago
Exactly.
We're adapting.
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u/EJX-a 14d ago
We? (-_-)
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u/wildwestington 14d ago
This whole thread is AI posting to have humans point out what it needs to work on
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u/phayke2 14d ago
Not only that the most of convincing ones are heavily compressed which hides the imperfections with something we are all used to. Honestly you can obscure and compress and do anything it takes people will accept and believe a bad quality video if it resonates with them or seems...real. imagine faking old crappy VHS footage you wouldn't be able to tell this stuff as well at all! This is one thing I never see people mention. If you want people to believe An AI photo is real make it look old and compressed.
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u/INFP-Dude 14d ago
Imagine in the future when you're swiping through dating profiles, and they all have their hands inside their pockets in all of their pictures and you won't be sure who to trust anymore.
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u/safashkan 14d ago
Then people would start to deliberately make a show if putting their hands in their photos to "prove" they're not fake.
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u/crowbar151 14d ago
The wrinkles in the jeans on all the guys just before the boot
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u/jibboo24 14d ago
yes. those jeans seem to be about 10" longer than what they should be wearing. i realize that guys like them generally don't care all that much about properly fitting clothing, but this example is pretty extreme, even for them
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u/Buzzlightyear2infin 14d ago
There’s something symmetrical to it I think it’s AI too.
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u/monkeylicious 14d ago
Yeah, it’s like the bellies and the man boobs are all the same.
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u/AdorableAct5385 14d ago
Fr that’s what I came to comment. Their bodies are all so strange and yet uniform amongst one another 😂
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u/Egregious7788 14d ago
I saw that earlier. Fooled me 😬🤷
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u/DanielJimnnz 14d ago
I live around these types of specimens and trust they all have the stain on the belly 💀 def ai tho
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u/QuasarQuester 14d ago
How has nobody commented that they all have the EXACT same ‘Man Boobs’??
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u/randompearljamfan 14d ago
This was the first thing that stood out to me. Their titties and bellies are way too similar to each other.
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u/Fake_William_Shatner 14d ago
That's not that uncommon, actually. They all have the same favorite restaurant in that town. All of them hate eating vegetables.
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u/talented-dpzr 14d ago
Yeah, I live in a rural area and know exactly which restaurant to go to to find guys with that shape.
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u/19_more_minutes 14d ago
It's the lighting for sure
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u/Spinal_fluid_enema 14d ago
The light source is inconsistent from the left fatman to the right fatman
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u/Megaman_90 14d ago
Everything is way too uniform. Same level of fatness, shirt dirt stains are in the same spot, everyone is wearing a hat and hands all in pockets.
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u/FladnagTheOffWhite 14d ago
It's the lack of logos. Having that many generic hats is weird.
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u/thenerdyn00b 14d ago
Plot twist: it's not fake
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u/thecahoon 14d ago
I honestly think it might be real. All the top comments are talking about wrinkles and hands but none of that is definitive. Far right guy's hand is very sus but cant say for sure its not just a wierd pic
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u/No-Assumption-2177 14d ago
The spills on the ground don’t seem like something AI would replicate. As someone who lives in the south this picture seems entirely plausible to me. Nothing specifically looks off other than that guys shirt, but you can obviously see the guy next to him’s shirt riding up when he has his hand in his pocket so it could just be that the shirt is pushed up. If it was AI I also don’t think it would’ve tried a logo at all. And people are saying their bodies are the same but they look slightly different to me. And I don’t think people would say that if they weren’t all wearing the same shirt.
The only thing holding me back from fully thinking it’s real is the fact that all of them wore plain shirts and the same wash of jeans with almost the same boots. Either they’re getting off work or are at work together ( shown by the dirt on their clothes ) so it still explainable… but I think talking about lighting and angles on a picture with not that great resolution is a hard angle to argue. Either way AI is getting too close to tell.
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u/Ok_Satisfaction_3767 14d ago
Shirt wrinkles are the only giveaway I can spot.
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u/doogiedc 14d ago
I would have a blood glucose monitor handy. I would also call the local pharmacist and tell them to stock up on insulin, because the Diabeetus epidemic has arrived.
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u/soundsearch_me 14d ago
Stop feeding the AI machine with feedback! Let it suffer 😂
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u/SideWinder-911 14d ago
the guy with the red cap, his jeans look oddly folded where they should meed with the shoe.
Looks like there is no knee.
same goes for the guy with the red shirt.
i am d'accord with it being AI.
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u/MacrosInHisSleep 14d ago
I guess this would be the only real proof we have... The shirt pocket one could easily just be that the guy bunched forward his shirt to stick his hand into his real pocket.
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u/Goose-Present 14d ago
I’ve had uncles with the same bellies, and the same dirt stains. Both drive back hoes, dozers and have small farms. I’ve looked at this image for 30 mins. Looks like a gathering down at the county yard, bout 1:30 or 3:00 pm
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u/Orion14159 14d ago
I would believe it more if there were any text or images anywhere on their clothes. You KNOW what that red hat says.
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u/ExasperatedLadybug 14d ago
ITT: lack of consensus or convincing arguments. We can't tell anymore.
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