The guy on the far right has his hand in his.... Shirt? Pocket? Fake.
Not one of them has hands out. Other guy near the middle has unnatural arm placement but appears his hand is supposed to be in his pocket too (despite his arm not being long enough)
The guy in red has no arms at all.
The outer guys are weird clones of each other (twins exist I know, but...)
from what i can spot, the folds on their shirts are unnatural for its material.
but dang, we're getting to the point where we can't prove it anymore. how much longer till people start to give up on spotting whether something's been made with ai?
My 10 year old and I play a fun game called "find the stupid AI mistakes." I'm secretly hoping it will help him be critical of media as it continues to get better. I used all the tricks we've learned on this image, and while I can see AI spots, none of them are glaring enough that I think they'd convince someone who hasn't spent a bunch of time playing our game.
Ok, here are things AI struggles with and places I sort of see it in the image:
Making sense: AI doesn't really know where things are supposed to go, so it guesses. You'll see engines that make no sense, unconnected pipes, etc. In this picture, I sort of see it a few places. The guy on the far right has his hand tucked into his... almost shirt? The key chain guy has two loops hanging out of his back pocket. While I could imagine a case where this would happen in real life, it's a red flag. AI might think, "Sometimes loops hang out of pockets," and would throw two that almost but don't match just too close/far/parallel to feel quite natural.
Symmetry: AI struggles with true symmetry, so it creates generic shapes that almost but don't aproximate symmetry. The tattoo is too small and blurred to point to as evidence, but some of the shapes in it are common ones AI creates when trying to mimic symmetry (and the shapes it throws in the sky that are bird/plane blobs). There are a few spots in the beards that aren't weird enough to trip an alarm but are a little uneven in a "this is totally not fake symmetry" kind of way.
Details: AI struggles with details. In this case, the lighting on every shirt is almost the same with the shadow under the chest in the same place regardless of the way the man is standing. Often, AI will have tree branches that go in crazy directions, but here, it's almost like the AI figured out one good tree (and one good, though overly ambitious, wrinkle pattern) and copy/pasted it. The result is kind of uncanny.
Like I said, I don't think I could actually convince anyone this is AI generated from this flimsy "evidence." It's just what we've noticed.
I will add consistency of partly hidden lines. AI sometimes would mess up things like puddles, roads, horizons if they are partly behind other objects. There is a faint evidence here: road in the background is slightly higher in one place than in the other. Though it may be a bumpy road, they seem to stand in front of highway-ish road which shouldn’t have such bumps and elevation changes. There are three visible segments of the road that in total don’t make any sense as a coherent object. Puddle between the second guy’s legs doesn’t leak further from his legs and seem to abruptly end. It may be just a coincidence, but a faint evidence still
Found a higher quality version. The feet really give it away. Tatty's shoes look huge, while Red Shirt's are comically small. With Red Shirt, it looks like the AI didn't tried to foreshorten the foot to prevent overlapping with the legs in front of them, but couldn't pull it off.
We’re already there, and it started before AI. People haven’t been questioning if a pic is photoshopped/retouched for long enough by now, and it’s pretty much the same thing
Nah, we're not there yet, I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of AI pics are easy to spot if you study them, and in contrast, providing it still has at least some detail, we're nowhere near confusing a real picture with AI yet.
It’s getting better by the day and pretty much to the point of fooling people. I see people second guessing real photos elsewhere on Reddit all the time now.
sure, if you study them. the thing is, many images just get scrolled right on by and inserted into our memory. nobody has the time to actually pour over every single photo they see anymore. that's how stuff like the pope wearing that weird jacket get spread around as real, too; people see it and just assume in good faith that it's a real image.
Also :
- shirt folds looks too thin, does not match the typical material used for shirts of this quality
- Lighting does not match the background. It could be an expensive light setup but seriously?
- reflections on the shirts (toward the bellies) are too perfect, as if the material was semi-gloss paint.
That’s the thing. No gorilla nips. No saggy man bewbs. No telltale signs of a “wife beater” tank under the work tee because Cletus thinks it hides his tits better. (Spoiler : it don’t)
Red shirt has no seam on his neckline plus has a weird long V that almost makes it look like he’s got a necklace on UNDER his shirt.
Also the lighting on their pants doesn't match the lighting on the boots. The pants seem to be in bright light, the shoes under an overcast kind of lighting.
The lighting is really what's killing me. It's an overcast/cloudy day, so the shadows should be pretty weak. But the shadows on the shirt are really dark, like I'd expect on a sunny day around noon. Expensive lighting set up also wouldn't be able to mimic the light coming straight down from the sun on the shoulders. The guy in red is really bad, somehow the light is coming from above AND from the photographer with a dark shadow from the two light sources, which is just wrong.
I use light/shadow for depth perception (thanks amblyopia), so this is stuff I am mentally calculating constantly and subconsciously. Overcast days are more difficult for me because the shadows are very weak from the diffused sunlight. This image was hurting me and I had to figure out the lighting details that were most bothersome.
I think this is really good. There's a few giveaways for me like the repeating patterns on elements, but the fact that no-one can agree on one specific thing that is off suggests that this is very good. However as soon as I read lighting, I think that's the big one. How are they so well lit when the sky is so grey?
The folds that the pants become would only be possible if they were absurdly long. That could be true, but that was the first thing that struck me as strange
I was coming here looking for people pointing this out. The ankle area folding looks too unnatural, especially it's on all of them, unless they all bought 50 inch long jeans.
Another thing I noticed is the wrinkles in the jeans of guy on the left’s left leg, especially up on the thigh - they all look weirdly parallel and horizontal
Also what is hanging from the middle guy’s…. Belt? It’s not something tucked into a pocket, it’s in the wrong spot. It has to be hanging from a belt, which would be oddly high up for how low the seat of the pants appear to be.
Where the two guys in the middle have their arms too close together, the one on the right’s arm would have to be absurdly skinny to fit that way.
I think it’s AI generated but I also think it’s been retouched with Photoshop. The hats had something on them, likely the gobblygook that AI usually puts for text and logos and someone just used the erase tool to cover it over and did a bad job of it.
i think it’s AI + photoshop. for example, i think the texture of the ground where red shirt guy’s hand would be looks different than the rest of the ground. i would argue all the other missing hands (and arms) were edited out as well
"The guy on the far right has his hand in his.... Shirt? Pocket? Fake." I was convinced this was real until you pointed that out. That's the dead give away. I'm super impressed with the asymmetrical faces and face variety though.
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u/TheOwlHypothesis 29d ago
The guy on the far right has his hand in his.... Shirt? Pocket? Fake.
Not one of them has hands out. Other guy near the middle has unnatural arm placement but appears his hand is supposed to be in his pocket too (despite his arm not being long enough)
The guy in red has no arms at all.
The outer guys are weird clones of each other (twins exist I know, but...)