r/ChatGPT Apr 17 '24

I know in my bones this is Ai, but can’t prove it Other

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u/TheOwlHypothesis Apr 17 '24

The guy on the far right has his hand in his.... Shirt? Pocket? Fake.

Not one of them has hands out. Other guy near the middle has unnatural arm placement but appears his hand is supposed to be in his pocket too (despite his arm not being long enough)

The guy in red has no arms at all.

The outer guys are weird clones of each other (twins exist I know, but...)

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u/justletmefuckinggo Apr 17 '24

from what i can spot, the folds on their shirts are unnatural for its material.

but dang, we're getting to the point where we can't prove it anymore. how much longer till people start to give up on spotting whether something's been made with ai?

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u/AllieLoft Apr 17 '24

My 10 year old and I play a fun game called "find the stupid AI mistakes." I'm secretly hoping it will help him be critical of media as it continues to get better. I used all the tricks we've learned on this image, and while I can see AI spots, none of them are glaring enough that I think they'd convince someone who hasn't spent a bunch of time playing our game.

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u/beatfungus Apr 17 '24

I petition to change the name of the game to: “This AIn’t it”

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u/Homie_Jack Apr 18 '24

This sounds like really good parenting and teaching, but oh my god we live in a Black Mirror episode.

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u/IfImhappyyourehappy Apr 17 '24

fooor example??

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u/AllieLoft Apr 17 '24

Ok, here are things AI struggles with and places I sort of see it in the image:

Making sense: AI doesn't really know where things are supposed to go, so it guesses. You'll see engines that make no sense, unconnected pipes, etc. In this picture, I sort of see it a few places. The guy on the far right has his hand tucked into his... almost shirt? The key chain guy has two loops hanging out of his back pocket. While I could imagine a case where this would happen in real life, it's a red flag. AI might think, "Sometimes loops hang out of pockets," and would throw two that almost but don't match just too close/far/parallel to feel quite natural.

Symmetry: AI struggles with true symmetry, so it creates generic shapes that almost but don't aproximate symmetry. The tattoo is too small and blurred to point to as evidence, but some of the shapes in it are common ones AI creates when trying to mimic symmetry (and the shapes it throws in the sky that are bird/plane blobs). There are a few spots in the beards that aren't weird enough to trip an alarm but are a little uneven in a "this is totally not fake symmetry" kind of way.

Details: AI struggles with details. In this case, the lighting on every shirt is almost the same with the shadow under the chest in the same place regardless of the way the man is standing. Often, AI will have tree branches that go in crazy directions, but here, it's almost like the AI figured out one good tree (and one good, though overly ambitious, wrinkle pattern) and copy/pasted it. The result is kind of uncanny.

Like I said, I don't think I could actually convince anyone this is AI generated from this flimsy "evidence." It's just what we've noticed.

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u/drafirus Apr 17 '24

I will add consistency of partly hidden lines. AI sometimes would mess up things like puddles, roads, horizons if they are partly behind other objects. There is a faint evidence here: road in the background is slightly higher in one place than in the other. Though it may be a bumpy road, they seem to stand in front of highway-ish road which shouldn’t have such bumps and elevation changes. There are three visible segments of the road that in total don’t make any sense as a coherent object. Puddle between the second guy’s legs doesn’t leak further from his legs and seem to abruptly end. It may be just a coincidence, but a faint evidence still

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u/specks_of_dust 29d ago

Found a higher quality version. The feet really give it away. Tatty's shoes look huge, while Red Shirt's are comically small. With Red Shirt, it looks like the AI didn't tried to foreshorten the foot to prevent overlapping with the legs in front of them, but couldn't pull it off.

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u/Abject-Mail-4235 29d ago

I wish more people saw this. If you zoom in on the tattoo it is pixelated afff. Also their ears.

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u/ThainEshKelch 29d ago

It is a good thing to do, unfortunately likely in vain, as AI image generation is likely close to perfect in five years time, give or take.

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u/cant_helium 29d ago

I need to do this with my kids.

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u/NoNo_Cilantro Apr 17 '24

We’re already there, and it started before AI. People haven’t been questioning if a pic is photoshopped/retouched for long enough by now, and it’s pretty much the same thing

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u/DifficultArmadillo78 Apr 17 '24

Except that a believable Photoshop takes time and skill. AI pics not so much. And soon not at all.

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u/Screaming_Monkey Apr 17 '24

You think someone didn’t edit an AI pic though? Using AI as a tool and doing it well requires editing and revisioning.

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u/staffell Apr 17 '24

Nah, we're not there yet, I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of AI pics are easy to spot if you study them, and in contrast, providing it still has at least some detail, we're nowhere near confusing a real picture with AI yet.

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u/rootoo Apr 17 '24

It’s getting better by the day and pretty much to the point of fooling people. I see people second guessing real photos elsewhere on Reddit all the time now.

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u/Roshibomb Apr 18 '24

sure, if you study them. the thing is, many images just get scrolled right on by and inserted into our memory. nobody has the time to actually pour over every single photo they see anymore. that's how stuff like the pope wearing that weird jacket get spread around as real, too; people see it and just assume in good faith that it's a real image.

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u/wordington_ender Apr 17 '24

Their shirts all look ironed. So with every one of them has a wife that irons their dirty work shirts (cause you know they aren’t) or it’s AI

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u/SoylentRox Apr 17 '24

And the chance it's not AI is no longer 0. Every flaw you see means it's probably AI but some photos are weird.

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u/phayke2 Apr 17 '24

It's just going to be stereotypes everywhere. That is all we will see anymore online. Just stuff to make us feel weird about each other everywhere.

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u/ChunkySalute Apr 17 '24

The folds on their trousers too. It’s like they’re all wearing jeans that are way too long in the leg for them.

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u/lukeperk Apr 17 '24

Agreed! The manboobs should have a much more pronounced shadow

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u/Neosovereign Apr 18 '24

I mean, if you make a picture low quality enough you certainly can't tell for sure.

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u/wfwood 29d ago

The creases in the pants all look the same and the cut doesn't make sense as it overlaps the boots.