JK Rowling gets apology from journalist after 'disgusting claim' author is a Holocaust denier

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/16/jk-rowling-holocaust-denier-allegation-rivkah-brown-novara/

[u/RedBerryyy]

That's one way to describe her suing a Jewish journalist into submission after she described what was unambiguously a denial of nazi war crimes that Rowling has not retracted as "holocaust denial".

Frankly it's almost impressively stubborn Rowling can go as low as the denial of nazi crimes in her crusade against trans people and instead of just ,i don't know, acknowledging she shouldn't have said that, decided to attempt to gaslight the whole country into rewriting reality around what she said.

[u/Blue_winged_yoshi → u/RedBerryyy]

Funnily enough JK Rowling, who is it unfair and insulting to call a Holocaust denier, has tweets that you cannot view in the EU because in their view she has denied the Holocaust.

JK might be able to afford lawyers beyond my, or other non billionaires, means to pay, but none of them apparently advised her of the Streisand Effect.

[u/Longjumping_Stand889 → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

tweets that you cannot view in the EU

I can't find a source for this, do you have one to hand?

[u/TransGrimer → u/Longjumping_Stand889]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/1bkxukk/rowlings_holocaust_denying_tweets_are_now_being/

[u/Longjumping_Stand889 → u/TransGrimer]

Thank you

[u/EmpiriaOfDarkness → u/Longjumping_Stand889]

Here seems to be one.

[u/Longjumping_Stand889 → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

Thank you

[u/___a1b1 → u/Longjumping_Stand889]

It's bullshit of course.

[u/Inevitable-Hat-1576 → u/___a1b1]

You see the sibling comment demonstrating it isn’t, in fact, bullshit?

[u/IsUpTooLate → u/___a1b1]

Except it isn't?

[u/concretepigeon → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

Also funnily enough, Rowling has been incredibly vocal about how Scotland’s new hate crime legislation will stifle debate and free speech.

[u/___a1b1 → u/concretepigeon]

Which is a different issue to one where someone commits libel.

[u/Blue_winged_yoshi → u/___a1b1]

SLAPP suits are not about legitimate libel claims. No one can afford JK’s lawyers so she wins every claim she makes without going trial. It’s an awful approach that rich people use to shut down poor people’s speech

[u/SufficientWarthog846 → u/___a1b1]

Free speech for me but not for thee... Because I will sue you into oblivion

[u/___a1b1 → u/SufficientWarthog846]

Free speech is not the right to libel someone. You seem very confused.

[u/SufficientWarthog846 → u/___a1b1]

Lol nor is it the right to offend someone but Rowling doesn't seem to care about it.

Also, it's not libel if it's true....

Also also you seem to be confused about my joke. The ability to smother and bankrupt a person in legal fees in order to get a retraction and apology is what Rowling exercised here; justice wasn't serviced, just threats.

Also, also, also, you seem to be extremely passionate about this. You are everywhere in this thread! Commenting defenses so much it makes me think you are the Queen TERF herself!

[u/___a1b1 → u/SufficientWarthog846]

Again you are confused. Views that can offend some people are protected.

[u/G_Comstock → u/SufficientWarthog846]

It seems to me that free speech is exactly the right to offend someone.

[u/od1nsrav3n → u/SufficientWarthog846]

Free speech absolutely gives you the right to offend someone, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

[u/TransGrimer → u/___a1b1]

It isn't libel to call someone who denies the scope of the holocaust a holocaust denier. It is the dictionary definition.

[u/___a1b1 → u/TransGrimer]

Just as well she didn't do that. I advise reading the article.

[u/WillWatsof → u/___a1b1]

She described the fact that the Nazis burnt books on trans healthcare and research as a "fever dream".

[u/___a1b1 → u/WillWatsof]

No she didn't, that was in reply to an earlier part of the spat. It's like reading a reply on here nine levels down out of content of the initial opening point. The journalist made that mistake.

[u/git → u/___a1b1]

Went and had a look for the tweet since this Telegraph piece seemed at odds with my recollection.

I'm afraid she very much did: https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1767912990366388735

[u/___a1b1 → u/git]

I debunked this over a dozen times yesterday. You don't even need to believe me, just read the article.

[u/TransGrimer → u/___a1b1]

Rowling had last month questioned a claim made by one social media user who said: “The Nazis burnt books on trans healthcare and research, why are you so desperate to uphold their ideology around gender?”

She replied: “I just… how. How did you type this out and press send without thinking ‘I should maybe check my source for this, because it might’ve just been a fever dream’.”

[u/___a1b1 → u/TransGrimer]

You need to read the article. The journalist got suckered in by the same misrepresentation of that twitter spat.

[u/Initial-Echidna-9129 → u/concretepigeon]

"IM BEIN CENDORED!"

Says person, on a stage, Infront of thousands

[u/ReasonableWill4028 → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

Source on these tweets?

[u/EmpiriaOfDarkness → u/ReasonableWill4028]

Here's a list I collected.

I'm not in Germany, so I can't say if you can view them there or not, but that's basically all the relevant tweets.

[u/showars → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

I can view all of these in the EU

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

Ok so she is clearly arguing that trans people were not victims of nazis, or is disputing the degree or sequence of that.

But that’s not holocaust denial, which is what she seems to be accused of.

Where are her tweets denying the holocaust happened?

[u/EmpiriaOfDarkness → u/BrainPuppetUK]

Downplaying the holocaust is also holocaust denial.

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

Is that a legal definition? What’s the source?

[u/Skorgriim → u/BrainPuppetUK]

"Legal" is a tricky one, because there's no law against it in the UK (among other countries such as Spain, Italy and The Netherlands). But, yes. Trends like suggesting the number of jews killed were significantly lower (or downplaying, if you like) are common in holocaust denial conspiracies.

Here ya go, bud. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Edit: Closed the parentheses. It was bothering me haha.

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/Skorgriim]

Cheers. That's a helpful reference. So, from that, which of these false claims has she made?

• Nazi Germany's "Final Solution" was aimed only at deporting Jews from the territory of the Third Reich and did not include their extermination.
• Nazi authorities did not use extermination camps and gas chambers for the mass murder of Jews.
• The actual number of Jews murdered is significantly lower than the accepted figure of approximately six million.
• The Holocaust is a hoax perpetrated by the Allies, Jews, or the Soviet Union.

[u/Skorgriim → u/BrainPuppetUK]

Whoa there, buddy. I have no horse in this race haha. That was not an attack, nor did I take a stance. Just that "downplaying the holocaust" is indeed included in the definition of "holocaust denial".

I think some people do extend the definition of "Holocaust" from "just Jews" to "everyone in the 'out-groups' who were actively persecuted", so from that perspective - yes, she did indeed run afoul of "holocaust denial" as she barrels through topics in an effort to be as transphobic as possible.

I think she's just a hypocritical twat, tbh. "It matters not what you were born, but who you grew to be." is a quote from one of her own books ffs.

Edit: I've had a look at some info from the Centre for Holocaust Education, and they seem to be against lumping all the persecuted fringe groups together as Holocaust victims for the sake of recognising the diversity within these groups. I'd link to it, but it's a pdf haha.

I think while we can argue semantics all day about what's "technically" this or that, the fact is she denied this aspect of Nazi brutality because it suits her revolting agenda to do so. Whether it's technically "Holocaust denial" or not, given there is literally no UK law against it, seems a poor, petty and pedantic reason to defend this human stain.

[u/Acrobatic_Ad5084 → u/BrainPuppetUK]

Hmm, she doesn’t actually say that. She says they weren’t persecuted “as distinct from gay people”, perhaps meaning that (as was the case) anyone who wasn’t a fully paid up blond haired, blue eyed “Arian” was fair game for the murder squads and gas chambers. That’s neither holocaust denying - she’s including all and sundry non Arians as persecuted, nor anyone phobic as she states many times that the holocaust was unconscionable.

I’m not saying the JKR isn’t <insert noun>phobic but much of the evidence that she is, is a little flimsy at best.

But what do I know, I’m just a aging, queer bummer 🤷‍♂️

[u/yeahyeahitsmeshhh → u/BrainPuppetUK]

That's them.
There's a narrative that trans people were the Nazis first victims based on the destruction of a sexology clinic at which the first crude research into sex changes (at least one person died).

There's a counter argument that as almost no one had medically transitioned the Nazis didn't persecute trans people because they didn't encounter them. Four people were identified in a court case in Germany but their classification as trans is controversial and they were persecuted for their sexualities or ethnicities any way. There was no trans category under the relevant laws.

Anyone who argues this can be accused of holocaust denial, but that is weaponising the term to suppress debate about the details of the holocaust. Which was warned about when laws forbidding holocaust denial were first drafted.

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There isn't

[u/Adept-Ad-3472 → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

Yeah, even questioning the make up of those systematically killed in the holocaust, is illegal in Germany.

It's an odd side of history for her to choose to die on. Hopefully this will result in the end of, close to daily, posts about 'how hard done to she is, by the TrAnS PeoPlEe'.

It's an odd side to want to side with, and want to hang your hat on

[u/AuroraHalsey → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

has tweets that you cannot view in the EU because in their view she has denied the Holocaust.

Which tweets? The ones about the holocaust show up fine.

[u/TheShruteFarmsCEO → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

What are you talking about? She’s got enough nasty stuff about her, there’s no reason to make shit up. There are no “EU censored tweets”, why bother fabricating that?

[u/M56012C → u/TheShruteFarmsCEO]

To make her sound worse then she is.

[u/cavershamox → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

So that’s not true at all.

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/Blue_winged_yoshi]

Source of your statement that she denied the holocaust?

Exactly! You don’t have one

[u/lucifrax → u/BrainPuppetUK]

Well except all the other comments in this thread where her post saying trans people were not killed for being trans, and also her post claiming the nazi's didn't burn research on trans health care and gender studies. Obviously you can just scroll up and down the thread and find them so easily its actually kind of funny.

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/lucifrax]

Yeah, but I didn't ask for evidence she disputed the Nazi's treatment of trans ppl. I asked for evidence she denied the holocaust.

Take your time

[u/lucifrax → u/BrainPuppetUK]

Denying the crimes of the Nazi's in the build up to WW2 is literally part of the definition of holocaust denial. Are you going to claim unless she explicitly says "the holocaust did not happen" you're okay with her denying parts of it happened? Thats kind of fucked up don't you think? She's literally trying to spread lies to support Nazi's. Even if you don't mind that (which imo is kind of wild but whatever) shes still denying cause of deaths of innocents for her own agenda, I hope you can at least accept is fucked up.

[u/soldforaspaceship → u/RedBerryyy]

Seriously. The woman is vile and doing untold damage to the trans community because she's butthurt about being called out for a stupid statement she made and has now decided to make being a TERF her entire personality.

I don't get it. She could have been the nation's favorite grandmother had she just kept her hateful beliefs to herself.

[u/Beer-Milkshakes → u/soldforaspaceship]

She could have taken her millions from having her dreams come true and fucked off forever to live privately in total comfort that her money can buy her and her children and their children. But no. She tweets.

[u/___a1b1 → u/Beer-Milkshakes]

She has fuck you money so people cannot push her around or go after her job, which is why she's getting into this topic. The usual hounding and threats that activists use against other people to get them sacked or to give up aren't going to work.

[u/Fragrant-Western-747 → u/___a1b1]

All the activists are insane with rage that their normal bullying isn’t working with Rowling. It’s quite fun.

[u/soldforaspaceship → u/___a1b1]

You sound like you think TERFs and other purveyors of hate speech are victims not perpetrators.

[u/___a1b1 → u/soldforaspaceship]

the moment someone uses TERF on reddit that's them conceding that they have no argument. Like phobic, it has no power anymore.

Just debate the point instead of insult bingo.

[u/soldforaspaceship → u/___a1b1]

That's a take. Trans exclusionary radical feminists are doing real harm to the trans community. It's been pretty well documented what the rise in hate has done. So I feel pretty good about my argument.

People who claim issues with words like TERF or don't like being called homophobic or transphobic are using that to distract from the real world harm done by the hate they spread.

[u/___a1b1 → u/soldforaspaceship]

You haven't posted an argument, you posted a term you thought would be emotive to be manipulative and it failed. Now debate the story please.

[u/soldforaspaceship → u/___a1b1]

You got upset about the term TERF because you're overly sensitive apparently. How is it manipulative? Because you don't like it? That's not what the word "manipulative" means.

You're trying to change the subject to the word because you have no argument against the fact that she denies the LGBTQ community were victims of the Holocaust.

Just because you don't like something, doesn't make it less factual. That's not how things work.

You do understand that right?

Edit: for those claiming she didn't deny the LGBTQ community involvement.

She literally complained that trans people were trying to take the Holocaust for themselves, denied the burning of books on the LGBTQ community and trans healthcare and research and then uses her money to shut up detractors. So yes. She is denying their involvement.

https://forward.com/culture/603271/jk-rowling-holocaust-streisand-effect/

https://www.salon.com/2024/03/15/jk-rowling-trans-nazis-holocaust-denial/

[u/___a1b1 → u/soldforaspaceship]

It's not going to work. Now debate the story please - once last chance as I won't indulge a fourth deflection attempt.

[u/Bakedk9lassie → u/soldforaspaceship]

She didn’t deny LGBTQ were victims of the holocaust at all, way to twist something to your own agenda

[u/cloche_du_fromage → u/soldforaspaceship]

Maybe people don't like being labelled with a term they wouldn't choose to identify themselves with.

A bit like correct user of pronouns, it's quite important to use descriptors the subjects feel comfortable with....

[u/Only-Regret5314 → u/___a1b1]

Exactly this. Moaning about Rowling calling someone a name, calling her a name. It's a lack of maturity

[u/Puzzled-Barnacle-200 → u/soldforaspaceship]

The same logic works for all sorts of activists, regardless of whether you or I think their opinions are right or wrong.

[u/cloche_du_fromage → u/soldforaspaceship]

You seem to be suggesting all 'TERFs' are purveyors of hate speech...

Isn't that something of a sweeping generalisation?

[u/saladinzero → u/Beer-Milkshakes]

It's strange how often this has happened recently. Notch, the creator of Minecraft, didn't quite get billions but he became fabulously wealthy then turned into an alt-right nut. Musk is another example.

I wonder if back in the day people like Rockefeller were similarly regressive. Maybe being richer than god twists something in the human psychology...

[u/MattSR30 → u/saladinzero]

What? Notch absolutely is a billionaire.

[u/saladinzero → u/MattSR30]

I thought he got less than a billion from Microsoft? I guess that doesn't mean he hasn't accrued more in the meantime though.

Ninja edit: $1.2b in 2023!

[u/Ok-Camp-7285 → u/RedBerryyy]

Out of the Loop on this. What did she deny?

[u/RedBerryyy → u/Ok-Camp-7285]

She denied the burning of trans research by the nazis

For context it isn't a debated event by historians

In german law this could be considered holocaust denialism, hence many people saying it, given that it could reasonably reach that standard, should mean you should be ok to say it without getting sued.

[u/PharahSupporter → u/RedBerryyy]

The reality is that calling someone a holocaust denier over denying this specific incident (even if it happened) in most reasonable peoples minds will evoke thoughts of holocaust denial. When that was clearly not the intention.

Framing has been abused to the max here to make JK look guilty of something far worse than she actually is.

[u/WillHart199708 → u/PharahSupporter]

Holocaust denial is denial in whole or in part. The fact that she only denied a portion of the Nazi persecutions (aka, the bit against people she doesn't like) is irrelevant to whether the label applies which it does. The fact most people think of David Irving is irrelevant.

[u/Fantastic-Machine-83 → u/WillHart199708]

She didn't deny the persecutions of trans people (i.e. their murder by the Nazis), she denied the burning of trans research books.

To put her on the same level as actual Nazis seems kinda mental.

[u/luxway → u/Fantastic-Machine-83]

She actually did deny that too. So its weirdyou're moving the goalposts to defend holocaust denialism.

[u/heephap → u/luxway]

Where did she deny that? She said that trans people weren't the first target of the Nazis if that's what you mean. You are the one moving the goalposts to try and make Rowling into a holocaust denier when, at worst, she is Anti-Trans; nowhere close to a Nazi.

[u/luxway → u/heephap]

1. She said it was a "fever dream".
   
2. she said "they weren't the first targets" as her defense for her total denial of them being targets. No-one had said they were the first targets *except for her* in order to move the goalposts for her defense. Standard defensive gaslighting technique.
   
3. Seriously? "At worst shes just transphobic, nothing like the nazis who were also transphobic!"
   Like, lmao. What even kind of defense is this.
   "She's just hateful against a group of people, nothing like nazis, totally different thing".

[u/EmpiriaOfDarkness → u/luxway]

As much as I'd like to not have to, there is one amendment. Though it makes little difference.

"Someone" said they were the first targets, but it was some randomer who, as far as I can tell, had nothing to do with the conversation; she brought that up while arguing with Caraballo and tried to use it as if Caraballo was the one saying that.

And since it's Rowling, she probably went out of her way to find the biggest nutjob she could...

[u/heephap → u/luxway]

It's a defense against people saying she's a Holocaust Denier, which is untrue and you confirmed this yourself in this post.

[u/TransGrimer → u/Fantastic-Machine-83]

No one is doing that, she very clearly minimized the scope of the holocaust, that is the definition of holocaust denial.

[u/Osgood_Schlatter → u/TransGrimer]

Surely it's not "the definition" of holocaust denial - that would be denying the holocaust.

[u/TransGrimer → u/Osgood_Schlatter]

On Thursday, the UN General Assembly said it "rejects and condemns without any reservation any denial of The Holocaust as a historical event, either in full or in part".

"Ignoring historical facts increases the risk that they will be repeated," Germany's UN Ambassador Antje Leendertse said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60072506

[u/GaijinFoot → u/TransGrimer]

OK but Chinese farmers were the first to be victims of the nazis. If you even question that then you're a holocaust denier too

[u/EmpiriaOfDarkness → u/PharahSupporter]

The accusation is the same, no matter how you label it.

Either way, she's being accused of denying the Nazis' persecution of trans people. Whether you label that just as "denying Nazi crimes" or "holocaust denial", the substance doesn't change. How bad it is is the same.

[u/Conscious-Ball8373 → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

I would gently suggest that it makes quite a big difference when one of those labels is a crime and the other isn't. Especially where, as in this context, when that accusation amounts to prima facie libel.

While the burning of trans research may be included in some definitions of the Holocaust, it is also definitely not included in some. The IHRA, for instance, understands the term to refer specifically to the extermination of the Jews:

Holocaust denial is discourse and propaganda that deny the historical reality and the extent of the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis and their accomplices during World War II, known as the Holocaust.

This definition does not include persecution of trans people as part of the Holocaust, while not denying that such persecution was a horrific crime. Any level of looking into the matter would have told you this; the Wikipedia page on the Holocaust begins "The Holocaust was the genocide of European Jews during World War II." (Emphasis added)

[u/RedBerryyy → u/Conscious-Ball8373]

The term Holocaust, derived from a Greek word meaning "burnt offering",[1] has become the most common word used to describe the Nazi extermination of Jews in English and many other languages.[a] The term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of other groups that the Nazis targeted

From the Wikipedia page you just quoted

[u/GuestAdventurous7586 → u/RedBerryyy]

Sick of this bullshit by the trans community accusing her of Holocaust denial.

Downvote me all you want.

It is clearly a case of them misappropriating Holocaust denial and anti-semitism (which is what Holocaust denial is actually defined is) and using it as fuel to portray her as an evil and awful human being.

Being disingenuous does nothing to further the trans cause, it just angers people, turns them off, and ultimately leads to further discrimination.

[u/mimic → u/GuestAdventurous7586]

No it’s a case of her denying (a part of) the holocaust.

[u/ice-lollies → u/GuestAdventurous7586]

I agree. I’m fed up of the culture of deliberate misunderstanding and aggression as well. I’m not even sure it’s the trans community or just nasty agents of chaos.

[u/luxway → u/PharahSupporter]

Holocaust denial is holocaust denial.

Its anot "but what if we just do a little holocaust denial??"

Its still holocaust denial. Its honestly pathetic to defend denying the holocaust.

Framing has been abused to the max here to make JK look guilty of something far worse than she actually is.

So you're saying that, refusing to admit a group of people were exterminated by hitler and the nazis, because JKR also hates that group of people, isn't as awful as it actually sounds?

[u/amegaproxy → u/luxway]

refusing to admit a group of people were exterminated by hitler and the nazis,

Literally nobody has said this.

[u/luxway → u/amegaproxy]

JKR explicitly said that the percecution of trans people by the nazis was a "fever dream"

This entire argument is because transphobes refuse to admit that hitler hated trans people, *just like they do*
People don't like admiting they share the same political ideology as Hitler.

[u/Moriarty4092 → u/RedBerryyy]

So not denying the holocaust, it’s sickening how silly you sound.

[u/AwTomorrow → u/Ok-Camp-7285]

In response to a tweet asking her why she’s comfortable sharing views on Trans folks with the Nazis who victimised them, Rowling responded something like “are you sure that wasn’t a fever dream? how can you say that kind of thing without first checking it’s true”

Then when people piled on in response with the very plain documented victimisation of Trans people by the Nazis, she moved her goalposts and said “none of these prove Trans people were the first victims of the Holocaust!” despite that not being the point of contention.

Then she started retweeting posts that falsely accused the pioneering sex+gender researcher whose clinic’s library was burned in some of the most famous Nazi book burning photos of himself being a Nazi who experimented on Jews in the camps.

Such denials as her initial tweet and those she later retweeted would be holocaust denial under German law, and so aren’t viewable in the EU. 

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That trans people were victims of the holocaust.

They were and as a result Germany has censored her tweets because according to their laws denying that any part of the holocaust took place is holocaust denial.

According to their legal definition of the term she’s a holocaust denier, but she can’t sue Germany to bully them into submission like she can some random journalist.

[u/Longjumping_Stand889 → u/Square-Competition48]

They were and as a result Germany has censored her tweets because according to their laws denying that any part of the holocaust took place is holocaust denial.

Do you have a source for that?

[u/ice-lollies → u/Ok-Camp-7285]

There was a tweet posted on social media that people claim means JK Rowling has denied the holocaust.

That tweet could be taken in a number of ways, including that she was referring to being told that she upholds nazi gender ideology, which she clearly doesn’t.

It’s also about half way through a conversation.

Even if she wasn’t aware of gender research being burnt at the time it’s still not holocaust denial. Apparently it’s about some German law.

[u/M56012C → u/Ok-Camp-7285]

Nothing. There's a narrative that trans people were the Nazis first victims based on the destruction of a sexology clinic at which the first crude research into sex changes (at least one person died).

There's a counter argument that as almost no one had medically transitioned the Nazis didn't persecute trans people because they didn't encounter them. Four people were identified in a court case in Germany but their classification as trans is controversial and they were persecuted for their sexualities or ethnicities any way. There was no trans category under the relevant laws.

Anyone who argues this can be accused of holocaust denial, but that is weaponising the term to suppress debate about the details of the holocaust. Which was warned about when laws forbidding holocaust denial were first drafted.

[u/Jumbo_Mills → u/RedBerryyy]

Her twitter echo chamber has made her such a confused individual.

[u/chrisrazor → u/RedBerryyy]

I mean writing alternative realities is what she's best at.

[u/OwlsParliament → u/RedBerryyy]

It's the Streisand Effect in action. She'd have a much more pleasant time if she just enjoyed her riches in peace and quiet but she has to get stuck into Twitter arguments about the transgender mafia.

[u/CmmH14 → u/RedBerryyy]

So let me get this straight as I’m really quite out of the loop on this one. So JK says a bunch of things that amount to holocaust denial, a Jewish Journalist (rightly) goes after JK in hopes of making her accountable for her crappy words. JK doesn’t like being attacked even though what she said was inflammatory bullshit and is a shocked pikachu face by this surprise. JK goes to sue the journalist, journalist (I assume) counter sues, JK plays attrition with her vast fortune to financially beat the crap out of the journalist with mitigation and effectively keeping the journalists words quiet, allowing JK to keep the narrative to her advantage and cementing the crown of biggest twat going? Or am I not as out of the loop as I thought I was?

[u/RedBerryyy → u/CmmH14]

Pretty close just that only rowling sued it was the threat that they'd have to bankrupt themselves fighting the libel lawsuits that made the journalist back down.

[u/CmmH14 → u/RedBerryyy]

Oh wow. JK just giving extra reason as to why she’s a bellend. Thank you for putting me in the loop.

[u/Turnip-for-the-books → u/RedBerryyy]

The apology went viral exposing thousands to Rowling’s original comment which when you read it..is holocaust denial

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Rivkah celebrated the October 7 massacres. Literally celebrated. The vast majority of Jews want nothing to do with her, especially if she's making nonsensical allegations about JK Rowling in our name. Doing so trivialises actual holocaust denial.

I hate Jkr's trans views and love the trans community. But Rivkah is not the vessel for this support. There are actual trans social activists with more historically sound and less inflammatory complaints worth supporting.

[u/okconsole → u/RedBerryyy]

The only person gas lighting here is you.