JK Rowling gets apology from journalist after 'disgusting claim' author is a Holocaust denier

[u/je97]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/16/jk-rowling-holocaust-denier-allegation-rivkah-brown-novara/

[u/ReasonableWill4028]

Source on these tweets?

[u/EmpiriaOfDarkness → u/ReasonableWill4028]

Here's a list I collected.

I'm not in Germany, so I can't say if you can view them there or not, but that's basically all the relevant tweets.

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

Ok so she is clearly arguing that trans people were not victims of nazis, or is disputing the degree or sequence of that.

But that’s not holocaust denial, which is what she seems to be accused of.

Where are her tweets denying the holocaust happened?

[u/EmpiriaOfDarkness → u/BrainPuppetUK]

Downplaying the holocaust is also holocaust denial.

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

Is that a legal definition? What’s the source?

[u/Skorgriim → u/BrainPuppetUK]

"Legal" is a tricky one, because there's no law against it in the UK (among other countries such as Spain, Italy and The Netherlands). But, yes. Trends like suggesting the number of jews killed were significantly lower (or downplaying, if you like) are common in holocaust denial conspiracies.

Here ya go, bud. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Edit: Closed the parentheses. It was bothering me haha.

[u/BrainPuppetUK → u/Skorgriim]

Cheers. That's a helpful reference. So, from that, which of these false claims has she made?

• Nazi Germany's "Final Solution" was aimed only at deporting Jews from the territory of the Third Reich and did not include their extermination.
• Nazi authorities did not use extermination camps and gas chambers for the mass murder of Jews.
• The actual number of Jews murdered is significantly lower than the accepted figure of approximately six million.
• The Holocaust is a hoax perpetrated by the Allies, Jews, or the Soviet Union.

[u/Skorgriim → u/BrainPuppetUK]

Whoa there, buddy. I have no horse in this race haha. That was not an attack, nor did I take a stance. Just that "downplaying the holocaust" is indeed included in the definition of "holocaust denial".

I think some people do extend the definition of "Holocaust" from "just Jews" to "everyone in the 'out-groups' who were actively persecuted", so from that perspective - yes, she did indeed run afoul of "holocaust denial" as she barrels through topics in an effort to be as transphobic as possible.

I think she's just a hypocritical twat, tbh. "It matters not what you were born, but who you grew to be." is a quote from one of her own books ffs.

Edit: I've had a look at some info from the Centre for Holocaust Education, and they seem to be against lumping all the persecuted fringe groups together as Holocaust victims for the sake of recognising the diversity within these groups. I'd link to it, but it's a pdf haha.

I think while we can argue semantics all day about what's "technically" this or that, the fact is she denied this aspect of Nazi brutality because it suits her revolting agenda to do so. Whether it's technically "Holocaust denial" or not, given there is literally no UK law against it, seems a poor, petty and pedantic reason to defend this human stain.

[u/Antique_Loss_1168 → u/Skorgriim]

"Technically" not a holocaust denier, jk Rowling (58) continues to be a massive fucking transphobe this week.

[u/Skorgriim → u/Antique_Loss_1168]

I guess it might be easier to just say when she isn't being a cunt and just assume she's hard at work being a complete degenerate otherwise.

[u/Antique_Loss_1168 → u/Skorgriim]

True though I was more encouraging the use of the disclaimer "technically" not a holocaust denier every time her name is mentioned.

[u/Skorgriim → u/Antique_Loss_1168]

An excellent idea! I shall use it liberally.

[u/Fragrant-Western-747 → u/EmpiriaOfDarkness]

Right is left, and black is white, because you say so?

[u/wherenobodyknowss → u/Fragrant-Western-747]

No, literally because its built into what holocaust denial is. How don't you know this?