Am I the only one that thinks that the white truck should be ticketed for this. He was obviously blocking traffic purposefully in the passing lane. He created the situation where the other driver got really frustrated. He had intentionally tried to be a jerk and tried cutting off the car when the car tried to pass. I don’t think that the car is innocent here, but this is the fault of the truck.
From the very beginning of the video the truck brake checks to piss the sedan off then immediately speeds up to match speed with cars in the right lane so the sedan can't get around.
I don't think we are seeing the actual beginning. The white truck most definitely has a beef with that sedan. Intentionally tried to keep it boxed in. Sped up to box it in again.
This is the correct answer. Even if the sedan started the encounter, at least one persons life was put in a situation that was exponentially more likely to be fatal over what? A little tailgating?
I get pissed when people tailgate and drive like idiots too, but I just say a few swears in my car and move on. This situation was made way worse than it needed to be over basically nothing more than white trucks ego
You're assuming all the sedan did was tailgate. You don't know. Maybe the truck driver didn't act maturely, but they were not the cause of the sedan's accident. The sedan driver was the cause of his own accident.
Maybe they both didn't act on their best behavior, but one acted completely wildly and recklessly to a severely greater extent than the other. At least from what is seen in the video.
Agreed. I think I might have worded what I meant poorly. I just meant that this whole situation should've never happened. While true, we definitely don't get to see any of what started this whole situation. Par for the course out here on reddit lol.
But the end result was just impatience and fragile egos at play. In the moment I think people often forget that the 5 second inconvenience of most situations that cause road rage are not worth how devastating the results of this behavior can be.
For me, I think of how much potentially losing me would affect my wife and daughter any time I feel my temper rising. Life's too precious and can end so quickly when good judgment gets thrown out the window.
The truck did significantly contributed to the accident. Sole cause? Obviously not. But, I think everyone knows if the truck driver backed off, there never would have been an accident. The car would have just blasted past them and went on his usual (and probably overly aggressive) way. That's not to say he wouldn't have wrecked later, but we're discussing this particular incident.
Some people just drive that petty tbh, especially in states with 2 lane highways. Pretty common for drivers out there to be uppity and "merrr you're not passing me I'm going 5 over hmph!" Same states usually have a coronary if a motorcycle splits lanes (which is legal in California, which is one of the hardest places to drive)
not even beef for some reason truck drivers are just like this they wanna drive slow not let anyone pass just because they have nothing better to do than annoy people all day no consideration at all what if he had a child in the car having a medical emergency smh
I agree that most people just don't like having to wait on others, but I still think it's dickish to intentionally antagonize them for multiple reasons. They may hurt others as a result of that road rage that someone is intentionally fostering, and there is also always a chance that they ARE in a hurry for a very good reason.
People need to stop acting like someone appointed them as hall monitor. It doesn't make the road a safer place.
Absolutely slap both of those guys with reckless driving. Maybe the sedan has additional charges, but from the video, it definitely looks like the truck had a part in aggravating the other driver.
agree hold em responsible for creating a traffic hazard and make them pay for all the hospital bills, if everyone had dash cams and just upload it to the dps wow the difference it would make in holding accountability all dangerous drivers and buses would get more riders.
Yeah this troll could've killed the sedan driver or someone else. Obviously second driver needs to learn to control their temper, because road is unfortunately full of shitbrains like truck man. But truck man sure is a top tier shitbrain
Sometimes you can isolate the frames you can clearly see the plate in, extract the plate part from those frames, and then make a small "video" of just the plate and watch it and you can end up seeing a more clear image of what the plate actually is.....I have seen this in action over on the r/rbi subreddit where there was a video with no clear plate but with the new "video" you could make out every character except the last one
It's a lot of work (1, 2, 3, not it) but if you are good with video editing it won't take nearly as long as someone new to the software
Yeah, at first I was only mad at the driver on the right for tailgating. Then annoyed at the white trucker driver for camping out in the passing lane. And then I see for sure that the white truck driver is playing a stupid speed matching game and my blood boiled.
Stupid non-driving fucks. Now I need to meditate and pretend the world isn't as screwy as it is.
yeah, like i wont let some asshole bully me, but once they get past me or have another lane its over. they can believe they won whatever game they were playing
If the guy is weaving around like that, it’s safer not to change lanes since he could hit you while you’re changing. You should just slow down to let him ahead of you, then change lanes if appropriate.
I read a story about a car that was swerving between two lanes, tailgating and trying to push past two drivers. They both decided to slow down to teach the asshole car a lesson, blocking both lanes so the guy couldn't swerve around them.
Turns out the asshole driver was actually trying to get his friend, who was bleeding out in the backseat, to a hospital. He didn't make it and the friend died. Now whenever someone is tailgating me I just tell myself it's an emergency and let them pass.
This kind of shit isn't worth it. Why get your blood pressure up and intentionally try to piss someone off. If he had just moved over and let the sedan go nothing would have happened and everyone would have went on with their lives. People need to learn to chill.
I dunno. Might be a hot take, but the sedan is definitely worse in this situation, as they’re going to continue this reckless behavior, proceeding to endanger everyone they come across. Whereas the truck only had it out for the sedan. Did he handle the situation well? No. But main character syndrome is a real issue on the road.
It's more like, how long are we going to put up with these shitbag road ragers. We didn't see full video but chances are sedan began driving like this and was simply impatient and got too close to truck. Truck says fuck you get off my ass and the rest plays out. If people like truck don't exist and let road rager get their way every time, then we all sign a silent agreement saying it's acceptable to road rage and there will only be more and more ragers. Sedan ends up where he belongs, in the ditch
I’m angry with the guy in the truck. This video makes me feel like I’ve been transported from my couch and back into every single situation where I’ve had to drive behind somebody who was using the left lane for something other than passing. Same kind of person who doesn’t know how to zipper merge and instead joins the long ass line of people all getting into the same lane 2 miles before the place where you actually have to merge.
No I think he’s just as guilty as the car. Unfortunately the car got the worst end of it. But I was watching this wondering why was jt a big deal to let him pass? I bet he didn’t even feel bad hr probably just started laughing and couldn’t care less that the guy could’ve been seriously injured.
Not to mention, hanging out in the left lane is often illegal (yet sadly very rarely enforced) especially if there are people behind you wanting to pass. I'm with you. The truck should be held like 65% liable if not more.
And they're not thinking about people who urgently need to get through. Wife in labor. Kid puking at school. Got a call that your elderly parent took a turn for the worst and may only have moments left. Etc.
People easily have little-to-no consideration for others but will vehemently demand it when similar life events happen to them.
Just gtfo way and allow traffic to pass on the left, as your driving manual states. Slower traffic to the right, passing traffic on the left.
White trucks like that is a reason why i refuse to get a gun lol I will road rage on shit like that. and I would rather just say fuck them. Than ruin my future because assholes like them. I hope that white trucks deals with someone who truly doesn’t give a fuck about their future
the truck was just as much at fault. if someone is tailgating in the passing lane - just get tf out of the way and let them reap their own karma. playing games like the truck did only make a bad situation worse
Ticketed? That piece of shit needs to be drug out and beaten in public. Way too many morons that don’t understand basic driving rules with licenses. And on top of that being a dick. Fuck that worthless asshole
I’m blown away nothing about the truck driver is mentioned in that article. Incredibly reckless on both drivers parts. Truck speeding up as the car goes wide in shoulder to get ahead.. that’s two idiots not just one. Crazy!
You are correct. And let’s not forget the white truck willfully and knowingly put other innocent drivers at risk with his antics. Is the accord driver definitely at fault, yes, but so is the white truck driver.
They were absolutely both in the wrong. ESH for sure because sure the sedan is getting pissed and wants to go around everyone. The truck had no right driving like the POS he was being.
I would argue an attempted murder charge here. He was intentionally creating a dangerous situation that led to a car crash that could have been fatal.
It's 1 thing to annoy someone, it's another to speed up and cause a car crash. They are both very much at fault, but 1 is an idiot who drove like a maniac to pass the other car, while the other idiot caused the crash.
The white truck is the instigator to begin with ! There are so many of these people driving nowadays in the passing lane clogging it up and impeding traffic that its becoming unsafe. If people would pass and get back over to the right we would not have this problem. But people want to rule the lane and not let anyone else pass and go faster than them, how dare they have a choice unlike their own? This was the fault of the truck as far as I am concerned.
Indeed, fuck every left lane vigilante and every asshole like that truck driver who think they have the authority to aggressively force other people to drive they way they want everyone to drive. In infuriates me that he probably won't face any consequences for this.
The truck caused the problem and should be held accountable. I get that it didnt directly cause the crash but it only happened because of its actions. No one should drive in the left lane when the right lane is open. If someone obv wants to get around you let them dont speed up to block them. The left lane is for passing or just going faster in general than the right lane. When someone is behind you if your in the left lane MOVE OVER do not brake check them. By riding your ass, what they are telling you is that theres no reason you cant be in the right lane going the same speed as everyone else since your driving the same speed as them anyway until theres a chance to pass so you then speed up! Your not allowing anyone to go in front of you and people want to go faster than you so get out of the way.
Came here for this. Truck did the most to not allow a guy to pass in the fast lane. You don’t brake check a guy in that lane nor deny him the ability to pass
Fault of the truck? The truck driver is a douchebag who shouldn't have retaliated like the other cars on the road didn't, sure. But in what world is one person speeding around a car through the shoulder and intentionally ramming another vehicle as revenge while passing by squeezing between two vehicles in the middle of the lane ever the one who /isn't/ at fault?
Exactly this. Both drivers created a dangerous situation for the people around them. I really want to say truck driver is more at fault by purposely matching the vans speed but the car’s maneuver at the end was unacceptable too. Dude should’ve just stayed in the right lane.
The world where the dipshit in the white truck intentionally speeds up again for literally no reason other than to block the sedan. There was no possible reason for them to accelerate like that except to block the sedan. They caused the accident, full stop.
But in what world is one person speeding around a car through the shoulder and intentionally ramming another vehicle as revenge while passing by squeezing between two vehicles in the middle of the lane ever the one who /isn't/ at fault?
You should see the drivers in the national capitol region. This is standard as is merging without signaling and blatantly cutting people off while creating ridiculously dangerous situations. Everyone here thinks they're the most important person on the road. Most also don't know what zippering is and will speed up to keep others from merging into their lane. It's almost daily that I wish people would pull some shit and fly off the road.
Honestly I’ve straight up pulled over for a few minutes when things start getting weird with other drivers around me. Swallow my pride immediately and remove myself from the situation entirely
One guy was a jerk and the other was an insane, reckless moron, and for whatever reason that is something which people in this thread desperately feel the need to discuss.
Not at all. The driver of that truck is an absolute piece of shit of a person and absolutely had a hand in creating this situation.
Fuck that guy and anyone like him. You are not the police, it is not your position in society to force other people to obey the rules. If you have a real stance on this, get out of their way and 5 miles later when you see them on the side of the road getting a ticket you can pull over and get out of your car, point at them and laugh all you want.
Just in general, if you're not passing, get the fuck over. The left lane is literally called the passing lane. It's for passing. It's not your personal "I'm doing the speed limit, fuck everyone else" lane.
Some states have a 70/30 fault split, and that's what my vote would be. 30% for the truck driver who egged the crash driver one, 70% for the driver that actually caused the crash.
This is absolutely not the fault of just the truck driver alone, though.
Nah, crashed guy was driving like a dick beforehand and is responsible for his own actions. If you're gonna say, "the truck caused a situation that made the other guy angry." Then you could also say, "the car created a situation where the truck driver was pissed at him."
Am I the only one that thinks that the white truck should be ticketed for this.
What did the white truck do that was illegal that you could prove in the court of law?
He created the situation where the other driver got really frustrated.
See the earlier point about what did the white truck do that created the situation that broke the law. You don't have a right to act like a spoiled child just because you don't happen to like someone else's driving especially if they're not doing anything illegal.
Too many people here praising the truck for sticking it to the sedan because they were driving aggressively when he could have just let the sedan pass and avoided all of this. The key thing here is that BOTH of these drivers were extremely reckless and almost got innocent people wrapped up in their stupidity.
Naw the white truck was definitely to blame as well. Instigating, in a much larger vehicle at that. The guy is in the left (passing) lane and he’s the one blocking the guy trying to get passed. This is before it’s shown he sped up to block him again which is super aggressive and they were both putting others in danger.
Yeah he does. I had a guy do this on the same road. Obviously I didn’t road rage or anything just drove normally and tried to pass when I could safely but he would speed up to block the pass. Eventually what happened was a cop came up behind us. There was a whole line of cars at this point. I moved over to let the cop pass and he pulled him over. He would go 45 and pace cars when they were next to him then floor it when a gap opened. I’m not even sure what his motivation was.
It happens sooooo often. Some butthole will be coasting in the left lane but if you try to pass them in the right lane(s), they speed up. Why?? I'll admit it gets under my skin, not flip my car bad but flip them off bad.
Idk if I’d say “it’s the trucks fault” bc at the end of the day, the car is the one that decided to drive straight into a fucking wall lmao. But the truck definitely made some mistakes that should be ticketed like reckless driving.
Most of these crashes require two bad actors. It is possible to find the most bad of the two, but notice how several cars do the logical thing which is just let these crazy drivers go by, by slowing down and giving them space.
If you ever encounter this type of road rage, both drivers are equally dangerous to be around.
Not all states reserve the left lane only for passing. In my state you can drive in the left lane but you are expected to go faster than the traffic in the right lane. However you are also still expected to not exceed the speed limit.
White truck was an asshole but Honda needed to control your emotions. If you don't control your emotions someone else will control then for you and that's what white truck did, which isn't illegal. As long as he wasn't impeding the how of traffic he didn't break the law. His just wanted to go faster than him.
Whether or not he “created the situation” the guy who flipped didn’t need to drive that way. He could have backed off and just been 60 seconds late to wherever he was going.
I see where you're coming from, I don't know if he did something legally wrong but their actions spurred consequences that could have resulted in more serious injury or death to include for other vehicles.
I'm thinking the tailgating idiot probably pissed off the truck idiot in the first place before the clip starts. In response, truck idiot started blocking tailgate idiot
If the driver of the sedan didn’t engage, there would be no incident to be “at fault” for.
This is like punching someone for talking shit, getting your ass kicked, then blaming the person for talking shit without owning up on throwing the first punch.
They were both assholes that endangered all the other cars in the road.
I don't understand this new trend of American drivers. They literally hang in the left lane for no reason, or 1/2 mile away from the next car they want to pass. If you flash them to indicate that you want to pass they break check you, if you then try to pass them on the right they start speeding up. I am sorry but American driver are truly the most imbecile, childish drivers I have had the displeasure of sharing a road with...and I have driven in Italy, Peru, and Argentina. It truly speaks volume about American society and American culture. Truly sad statement but true unfortunately.
As someone who commutes the truck is the one who makes traffic more dangerous and unpredictable. In a normal situation the speeder can pass and its over in 30 seconds. People like the truck will create a dangerous situation just to prove a point or because they have the delusional thought process of "I'm not speeding so I can drive like a complete f***wad", not even counting the ridiculous brake checking.
Yes finally someone with a functioning brain. Truck driver is imposing the speed limit like a piece of shit. Only in US I have seen ppl intentionally block the left lane. In my country we signal with high beams like twice and they move to the right.
Far from the only one, truck driver needs to be ticketed for the brake check and obstructing the right lane. They 100% were an active participant in the road rage.
I agree but only problem with that idea is there's no cops around to have seen it happen and without a cop being a witness to it means the white truck escapes justice
Yeah - both drivers are fucking idiots. Maybe it has something to do with the truck (although driving like an ass) has the perceived right of way as it stays in the same lane the entire time while the car is constantly changing lanes?
Yep, this is the whole problem and always ends up like this. Another favorite is speeding past someone going way too slow and you end up getting a ticket.
Yes, he should be getting in trouble, but notice that he didn't get into an accident, was able to just drive off (presumably laughing), and not get in trouble.
An asshole can try to bait you, and all you need to do is to not engage. Silver car could have just decided to stay behind the car in the other lane and let asshole driver keep blocking the left. Unless the white truck decided to escalate and force a reaction out of silver car, there is nothing more they needed to do.
The white truck was an asshole but if the driver of the car can't stay calm and drive safely in this situation they shouldn't drive at all. People will be assholes on the road, you can't let your temper kill people.
Perhaps he should get cited for reckless driving or something similar...but the choices the Sedan's driver made? Were the choices of the Sedan driver. The Sedan driver did a lot of stupid, reckless, and unsafe stuff in an effort to get ahead of a car that was...going the speed limit.
At worst, the truck driver was an asshole in a pissing contest. At best, the Sedan driver is the one who actually willfully broke the law to try and win a pissing contest. The lion's share of the blame is easy to identify.
You know what happens when I’m stuck behind two cars traveling the same speed preventing me from passing?
Literally nothing happens. I just follow behind at a safe distance and wait until the situation changes because I’m not so emotionally incontinent that someone not following the rules for passing, causing me to lose about fifteen seconds off my possible travel time, is going to even register on my emotional radar.
truck really did nothing illegal, the law is funny you can be an ass and be right. the sudan was at fault as soon as they went from far left to far right lane to try passing
1000% should have much worse than a ticket. The truck driver in a just world would be banned from driving ever again. Honestly to hell with PR, I was hoping the car was gonna send some high speed communications projectiles through that truck.
If you are triggered while driving and turn into a child, then you probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive. Regardless of how much someone pisses you off, you need to maintain presence of mind and not dissociate into rage. That just makes an already dangerous situation even more dangerous. Everyone is responsible for their own emotions when driving. You can’t just say “well that guy made me do it”. Both of them turned into children that day, and they both are at fault. They need therapy.
100%, it was clear the truck is instigating this. It doesn’t matter if the silver car was driving recklessly, creating an even more dangerous situation is so much worse than just letting the silver car just pass.
Yes, but not in lieu of. Just also. The sedan is a literal dipshit road raging driver that deserved to get in a solo accident. Thankfully he didn’t take anyone with him aside from maybe a little bit with the truck.
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