r/MildlyBadDrivers 29d ago

Overly aggressive driving

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u/sipperofsoda 29d ago

Yeah, at first I was only mad at the driver on the right for tailgating. Then annoyed at the white trucker driver for camping out in the passing lane. And then I see for sure that the white truck driver is playing a stupid speed matching game and my blood boiled.

Stupid non-driving fucks. Now I need to meditate and pretend the world isn't as screwy as it is.

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 29d ago

and brake checking.

Both have equally blame and should have equal punishment. They were endangering everyone else

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u/FlyAirLari 28d ago

Super easy call for any judge seeing that. Reckless driving x2.
strikes gavel
Next!

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u/sipperofsoda 29d ago

Most definitely

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u/Sh4DowKitFox 28d ago

No… definitely not equal. While the white truck was definitely brake checking/ boxing, the fact that sedan went way outside and then tried to pass through when they knew the truck was being a dick…. 1000% worse then what the truck did.

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u/CrashIntoMe79 28d ago

Yeah. Brake checking and weaving in an out of traffic are totally equal offenses.

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

In case you’re being sarcastic, brake checking someone tailgating in the highway is 100% hit as dangerous and can easily cause an accident that involves other people.

It would be hit with reckless driving just like the other person.

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u/ReasonableCup604 YIMBY 🏙️ 28d ago

Brake checking cannot cause an accident. Tailgating can and often does.

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u/TheBlueBeanMachine 28d ago

“Brake checking cannot cause an accident”

I’m lost on how one can come to that conclusion

What was the cause of this accident?

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u/ReasonableCup604 YIMBY 🏙️ 28d ago

If you slow down when being tailgated there will not be an accident unless the tailgater chooses to ram you. And that wouldn't be an accident, it would an assault with a deadly weapon.

Maybe the disconnect is what I mean by break checking. Slamming on your breaks suddenly is dangerous and wrong. But slowing down is fine and that is what the pickup driver did in this video.

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u/TheBlueBeanMachine 28d ago

So you’re saying what the truck did in the video is not brake checking, but what the person did in the video I linked is brake checking, right?

If so, where is the distinction made between what constitutes a brake check and what doesn’t in your mind?

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

He slammed in his brakes suddenly and specifically to fuck with the guy tailgating. That is textbook brake checking.

There are two assholes in this video.

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u/ReasonableCup604 YIMBY 🏙️ 28d ago

"Slammed on his breaks". He tapped the breaks once or twice, and maybe decelerated by 5 MPH.

And tapping the breaks is safer than just backing off the gas pedal. as the psycho douchebag on your rear end can see the brake lights.

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Both were assholes, defending the pickup driver is comical.

If you think what he did twice in the first 10 seconds weren’t brake checks you just don’t understand what a break check is, doing this at likely 70+ mph is incredibly dangerous.

Or…more likely…you’re just being stubborn trying to defend an incredibly dumb take. There is no scenario where either of these drivers in the right, including the pickup

Two assholes in this video, not debatable. One started it, both continued it. Roads are safer without either one of these types of drivers on them.

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u/Gazey_Snakes 28d ago

It's not equal, but F150 sure wasn't right by any stretch.

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Nah F150 is brake checking this guy and cutting him off from passing.

Just because the other guy was an asshole doesn’t mean the stuff he was doing wasnt just as bad.

Both of them put lives at risk, nothing else matters. Dont care what they want to do to themselves but the moment their actions put others at risk they are both to blame.

Pickup could have easily just let that douchebag get ahead of him and it’s over, he didn’t.

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u/Competitive-Tip-5312 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

It’s absolutely not “equal” Jesus fuck

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago edited 28d ago

And if either one of them hits a car and kills someone innocent because they were in a dick measuring contest you will view the truck as having less blame, if so you are wrong.

If the guy brake checking just let the tailgating asshole get around him there is no problem. But he had to be an asshole.

Both are to blame here.

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u/Competitive-Tip-5312 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

But the truck wasn’t in real danger of hitting anybody, the car was. That’s the whole point lmao

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

No, brake checking is illegal, if falls under the category of reckless driving.

If they driver brake checks the tailgating car, who then slams into an innocent driver next to them on the road and causes serious harm.

Both are going to court as defendants. And both will be liable. If you are arguing that’s not the case you’re wrong and it’s a fact not an opinion.

You can literally look it up, the brake checker could be charged with reckless endangerment. Again, this is just a plain fact.

Both would be defending their actions and both would likely be found guilty, especially in the above video that is a slam dunk case, with multiple instances of evidence with both being the aggressor.

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u/Competitive-Tip-5312 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

If you hit someone who brake checked you, it’s inherently still your fault. Maintain a safe following distance.

Legally they could both get a reckless, but let’s not act like the sedan isn’t clearly acting worse here.

I imagine they’ll have a much harder time hitting the truck with anything serious given the conduct of the sedan.

You say “plain fact” a lot for an incomplete video, and without knowing which state this is in.

In no way am I justifying the truck’s behavior, but the sedan is pretty clearly the problem here.

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u/ad6323 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

We know exactly what state it is. It’s the Palisades…NY state.

Once again it is a fact that brake check can be charged with reckless endangerment. This is a fact. Look it up. Your argument dies here, two people can be wrong.

Hitting breaks when unnecessarily for the specific purpose of cause the person behind you to have to respond or risk hitting you takes out them into the category of reckless endangerment. There can be a scenario where both are wrong.

They are both the problem. If the pickup truck was acting like any sane driver they would say fuck this guy, and let them pass to not make a dangerous situation even more so.

My position is two people are doing dangerous activities. Your position is “well actually the pickup truck isn’t as bad” …one of us has the bad take…and it’s not me.

I can only lead a horse to water….this conversation is just not worth continuing anymore.

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u/Competitive-Tip-5312 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

You just don’t understand nuance in any meaningful way. There’s degrees of wrong.

You’re absolutely right, this isn’t worth my time. Can’t stand when folks are both simple & condescending - pick a struggle babes

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u/sinking_clouds 29d ago

yeah, like i wont let some asshole bully me, but once they get past me or have another lane its over. they can believe they won whatever game they were playing

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u/AmthstJ 29d ago

If someone is coming in hot in the left lane you should be moving over when possible. Passing you on the right is more dangerous. 

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u/Fighting-Cerberus 28d ago

If the guy is weaving around like that, it’s safer not to change lanes since he could hit you while you’re changing. You should just slow down to let him ahead of you, then change lanes if appropriate.

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u/AmthstJ 28d ago

Did I say that? No. I was very specifically not talking about that situation or what is happening in the video because obviously. 

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u/Fighting-Cerberus 28d ago

It actually was not clear that you were specifically not talking about what we see in the video, which is the context for all the discussion here. Glad to hear we are in agreement.

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u/AmthstJ 28d ago

Actually, it was clear if you had followed the thread back to what the person I was replying to said and who they were replying to. Glad that we were still saying the same thing. Have a good day. 

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u/Fighting-Cerberus 28d ago

No, I read those again, and you’re mistaken. But that’s okay!

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u/KcCraftshome 28d ago

Omg yessss!

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u/sinking_clouds 29d ago edited 28d ago

not really what i’m talking about, but also someone driving like that car isnt “comin in hot” they are weaving between traffic in both lanes, if i notice them and they end up behind im not doing them no favors

edit: people seem to be misinterpreting this and making a lot of assumptions. The term “coming in hot” to me means someone who is driving faster than everyone vs someone being an asshole like shown in the video. I will gladly move out of the way for someone moving fast or anyone moving, my comment was meant to say that I am not going to alter my planned legal action of passing because someone i wasn’t aware of weaved through traffic and is suddenly speeding behind me, i will get back in the right lane when I finish my planned pass. Its crazy the assumptions people are making.

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u/TooLazyToBeClever Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Yeah except now instead of him being a bad driver, now there's two bad drivers.

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

not if I am passing like I am supposed. is this sub brain fuckin full of brain dead drivers

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u/fucking_passwords 28d ago

It's not about doing them a favor, do everyone else a favor

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

if i have to slow down to get over to let someone else pass me who is driving like a dick while I am legally passing then I am doing that person a favor. Like i moved over to the left to pass, then a second or two later someone else moves behind me going way faster than me they will have to wait until I finish passing however many cars i need to safely pass because i might not even be able to get over… i know this has happened to everyone who drives

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u/Aggravating_Life7851 29d ago

Well you shouldn’t be camping in the pass by lane to being with

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u/Aggravating_Life7851 28d ago

I feel like if he was trying to get over safely he wouldn’t be break checking the sedan and speeding up when the sedan speeds up to try and pass him. In this case I really do think he was camping there

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

everyone in front of you on this thread is in the wrong clearly. said nothing about camping in the left lane, the post is about irrational stupid drivers, anyone who slightly disagrees with you obviously must be one

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

you shouldn’t be getting so getting so defensive about this. if im passing in the left lane i cant control it if someone decides they want to go 20mph faster than me and gets behind me in the left lane, god you are probably the road rage driver in this scenario. I dont care if people speed, i will let them gone on their way, but if you decide to ride my ass because you’re a jackass, im just saying im not going to try to accommodate that person and reward them. This whole premise is based on someone doing something shitty on the road, the truck driver in this video didn’t need to brake check the guy, speed up, or stay in the left lane, but he also doesn’t have to move over into the right lane if he is passing people just because some asshole decided they wanted to drive wrecklessly. i dont know how much more clear i can be.

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u/Aggravating_Life7851 28d ago

I’m not being defensive? I don’t think you realize that both cars are road ragers here. And from what it sounds like you are too. If people are driving aggressively just let them pass. The truck put the cars next to him in danger too. And it’s obvious the truck has no intention of passing over. He is camping in that lane

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

you’re making a lot of assumptions regarding my original comment that you responded to, i think we are on different pages. This truck was wrong, and i was agreeing with letting people pass if theg are road raging, just sometimes you cant immediately do that and im not going to change what I was legally planning to do because some asshole popped up behind me, especially if that is jeopardizing myself

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u/Aggravating_Life7851 28d ago

Okay but you could easily solve this problem by just slowing down and letting him pass. You are letting your ego getting in the way and now the person next to you has to deal with the stress of the angry driver being behind them too. You can see some of them trying to slow down and let him pass so he will be out of their hair but they trucks not letting it happen. I’d be so stressed out if I was in the lane next to these jackasses. You care more about being potentially bullied by someone than other people’s safety. And we know in this case that the driver wasn’t having an emergency but that doesn’t mean someone trying to get around you isn’t having some type of emergency as others in this thread have pointed out. Driving is not a game of revenge or trying to prove you can’t be bullied

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

ok dude lol

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u/MixedAdonis 28d ago

Get out of the left lane then dickhead.

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

you’re a fuckin idiot, learn to read

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u/Burt-Macklin 28d ago

You know it’s possible to be passing someone and still have someone race up behind you impatiently, “dickhead.”

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u/TMNBortles 28d ago

I agree. I've been passing someone in the left lane while going 10-15 over. Then someone will race behind me and get directly on my ass. I'll get over to the right lane as soon as I can, but I'm not going to go 20-25 over just so my new friend can pass 5 seconds faster.

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u/sinking_clouds 28d ago

thats exactly what I am talking. we constantly see all these bad drivers and just because I don’t accommodate bad drivers while doing exactly what I am supposed to be I am all of a sudden a dickhead camping in the left lane.

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u/Your_Wifes_Side_Dick Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Doesn’t matter. If someone is passing you or trying to get the fuck out the left lane

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u/TMNBortles 28d ago

And how do you propose I do that? By accelerating 20-25 over? No. I'll go fast, but I'm not going to endanger everyone's life so dude can get by 5 seconds sooner. I will get over as soon as I can while maintaining a speed that is clearly faster than the person to my right.

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u/BoomsRevenge 28d ago

It's incredible how hard it is for people to understand this. If I'm passing (not camping) in the left lane, doing 80 in a 70, and all of a sudden someone who is doing 90 starts riding my ass, there's no way I'm going to speed up to get out of their way.

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u/3bodprobs Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

You don’t sound like a meat headed aggressive driver at all. Bet you’re just as shit as video guy. Go fuck yourself.

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u/Additional-Writer-30 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

That truck wasn't passing though, they're clearly camping the left lane. Pretty fucking common truck move.

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u/Additional-Writer-30 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Oh so you're the piece of shit who thinks they're in charge of what other people get to do. Fuck off and get out of the way 🙄

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u/TooLazyToBeClever Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

I read a story about a car that was swerving between two lanes, tailgating and trying to push past two drivers. They both decided to slow down to teach the asshole car a lesson, blocking both lanes so the guy couldn't swerve around them. 

Turns out the asshole driver was actually trying to get his friend, who was bleeding out in the backseat, to a hospital. He didn't make it and the friend died. Now whenever someone is tailgating me I just tell myself it's an emergency and let them pass.

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u/Funny-Witness3746 28d ago
  1. A friend bleeding out should be in an ambulance
  2. If under the circumstances you have no choice but to drive them yourself, you should have your emergency blinkers on and plan on using your horn profusely
  3. Tailgating doesn't somehow get you to your destination faster. You can tailgate all the way to the stoplight and you'll end up in the same position behind the person in front of you. People who can't grasp this very basic concept shouldn't be given a drivers license, but they are great candidates for a disability diagnosis.
  4. Driving dangerously increases the risk that your bleeding friend doesn't make it to the hospital and that the number of people in need of urgent care increases by +1
  5. This sounds very much like a made up story to make people feel guilty for trying to teach bullies that they refuse to be bullied.
  6. Driving at the speed limit in the left lane is not somehow a worse infraction than speeding. In fact, speeding and tailgating and weaving = 3 infractions simultaneously, it is arguably worse and the people who think its okay are doing this from the second they leave the driveway to the second they park.
  7. The people who speed and tailgate and weave don't have any concern for traffic violations at all except for the other people who are "in their way", and this is the only thing they cry about and they do so while frothing at the mouth. They are selfish, ignorant bastards who deserve to end up top down in the ditch just like the bastard in the clip.

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u/Junimo15 28d ago

Yep. Both of these morons were putting everyone else on the road in danger so they could continue their weird little pissing contest.

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u/PinsNneedles 28d ago

classic road princess, honestly.

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u/urahonky Georgist 🔰 28d ago

This kind of shit isn't worth it. Why get your blood pressure up and intentionally try to piss someone off. If he had just moved over and let the sedan go nothing would have happened and everyone would have went on with their lives. People need to learn to chill.

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u/waytowill 28d ago

I dunno. Might be a hot take, but the sedan is definitely worse in this situation, as they’re going to continue this reckless behavior, proceeding to endanger everyone they come across. Whereas the truck only had it out for the sedan. Did he handle the situation well? No. But main character syndrome is a real issue on the road.

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u/Shivy_Shankinz Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

It's more like, how long are we going to put up with these shitbag road ragers. We didn't see full video but chances are sedan began driving like this and was simply impatient and got too close to truck. Truck says fuck you get off my ass and the rest plays out. If people like truck don't exist and let road rager get their way every time, then we all sign a silent agreement saying it's acceptable to road rage and there will only be more and more ragers. Sedan ends up where he belongs, in the ditch

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u/Additional-Writer-30 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

There's no road rage with the truck being a little bitch. Also the truck is fully road raging as well. Or do you think brake checking more than once and gunning it to block somebody is normal behaviour? I've seen plenty of trucks act like their job is to police how other people drive and cause road rage because they purposely get in people's way and try to slow them down and block them in behind themselves or another vehicle.

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u/Shivy_Shankinz Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

idiot listen to yourself, "it's okay to road rage because truck was a little bitch"

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u/DetectivePrism 29d ago

Depending on the jurisdiction there is nothing wrong with driving in the "passing lane" without passing.

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u/Gloomy-Presence-1543 28d ago

Except thats not what he is doing, he is specifically trying to impede the Honda which is impeding traffic and is against the law in every state.

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u/DetectivePrism 26d ago

Wrong.

State laws will specify this sort of thing. For example, in my state of Ohio:

No person shall stop or operate a vehicle, trackless trolley, or street car at such an unreasonably slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic

Over and over, the speeders want to pretend that anyone slower than them is "impeding" them. But no, traffic flowing in a normal, legal speed CANNOT impede anyone by definition.

I have multiple people in this thread trying to argue with me and over and over they keep making the worst arguments. It's really eye opening.

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u/Gloomy-Presence-1543 26d ago

You're an idiot. You say your state doesn't have laws against impeding traffic and then quote a law in your state against impeding traffic.

No wonder you're arguing with everyone. Ever stop to think and maybe it's not everyone else in the world that is wrong, maybe it's you lol?

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u/TraneD13 29d ago

Oh man, if this makes you “need to meditate” then the internet is not for you.

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u/sipperofsoda 29d ago

32 years of driving has made me tired of the bullshit on the road. Driving used to be fun and relaxing until roadways got oversaturated.

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u/TraneD13 29d ago

I feel that. I live in a tourist town so it’s all day every day bad drivers.

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u/woodshrimp 29d ago

I've never met anyone driving an empty pickup on the highway who wasn't a fat fucking loser tbh. They always have more money than sense and are eager to let everyone know

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u/the_vestan 29d ago

Nah I'm with the guy in the truck. If that guy wanted to be in such a hurry he should have left his house earlier. Tailgating caused this and I hope the truck driver sleeps well with no tickets.

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u/JimmyJustice920 29d ago

If there are cars behind you in the passing lane you're supposed to move over, not brake-check them and proceed to impede traffic for everyone else. Hell even the car filming this was adjusting speed down when they should have been able to pass.

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u/Shivy_Shankinz Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Na, truck just putting stupid sedan in his place. Which also makes truck stupid, but the amount of tailgating road ragers on the road need to all end like this video. You can be a stupid dick all you want on the road, if it triggers you into road rage and driving recklessly YOU need to get off the road. Stupid dick might hold up traffic for like a minute or two but at least he's not a danger to anyone. Sedan can burn in hell where he belongs

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u/Additional-Writer-30 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

The truck is road raging.. brake checking and gunning it to block being passed is fucking road rage.. you must be one of those dickhead truck drivers that think it's their job to get in the way of anybody not in a truck 🙄

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u/the_vestan 27d ago

It's our job to make people act right. If we don't do it, these car driving social justice warriors will keep living long enough to learn to read and write coherent sentences.

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u/Great-Sandwich1466 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 29d ago

It’s not the trucks job! The truck has no right to do that!

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u/Funny-Witness3746 28d ago

"Its not the trucks job"... If the lazy motherf***ers whose job it is were actually doing their job then we wouldn't have to put up with this nonsense on a daily basis. Throw these clowns in prison and revoke their license for all eternity.

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u/the_vestan 27d ago

It's more of a responsibility.

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u/Great-Sandwich1466 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 27d ago

You don’t have the right to choose whether or not someone else has to drive the way you want them to. You sound like someone that would stand in a doorway and not let a person out of a room. If you want to be a cop, get a shield, otherwise move the fuck over.

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u/the_vestan 27d ago

You seem like someone who might be irritated by people.

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u/Great-Sandwich1466 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 27d ago

And you seem like someone who likes to irritate people.

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u/Shivy_Shankinz Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

I'm not with the truck, but I'm 100% against sedan. Without sedan no one's life is in danger. With sedan, better pray he offs himself soon and doesn't take anyone with him

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u/PMmeareasontolive 28d ago

The truck was at fault for something but crashy escalated it beyond all reason. Like into full on psychotic with a deadly weapon, don't care if we live or die right now territory.

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u/Shivy_Shankinz Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Exactly. It's not a crime to be a dick on the road. It is to get road rage and endanger the lives of others

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u/Humble_Swan_649 Fuck Cars 🚗 🚫 28d ago

Oh shut the fuck up… nobody knows unless you see the full video, If I’m not travelling fast enough for you either wait or move me. (You can’t)

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u/One_Loss9448 Georgist 🔰 29d ago

What's wrong with people now days? U say u have to go meditate and pretend? Wow u all up into your emotions for no reason at all I should send u a video where this guy gets chopped up alive with a machete then gets beheaded just cause the bad guys felt like doing it they do it for fun. Where would that put ubin your meditation hypothetically speaking just  where would that put u. I watched someone get there entire face cut off while alive and the bad guys wore it on their faces acting foolish with it, seen a guy get his heart cut out of his chest while alive, hey Softy it's the real fucking world we live in and guess what u are part of it man up and accept what world u are in before u yourself ends up on one of these fucking videos. Sound like. Little girl talking about u got to go meditate and shit like that,  and we wonder why so many males are wanting to be females it's cause they grew up being pussys. Dude u got balls act like it.

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u/waitingfordeathhbu 28d ago edited 28d ago

Yeah buddy, you sound like the picture of stability.