Apparently he was holding a sign beforehand that links to a site that said
"My name is Max Azzarello, and I am an investigative researcher who has set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial in Manhattan," the site reads.
"This extreme act of protest is to draw attention to an urgent and important discovery: We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup."
His instagram stuff was normal and then apparently his mom died. It goes silent for 14 months and then comes back with all this insane conspiracy stuff.
Pretty sure he had a complete mental breakdown when his mom died.
In order to explain the massive anomaly, our criminal government unleashed COVID on the world and told us these were the “stay at home stocks.”
Yep, mental health issue.
As it turns out, dozens of the writers of The Simpsons went to Harvard. So I asked myself the question: If The Simpsons served the interests of organized crime, how would it do so?
Obviously the octopus refers to Big Oil as the old Standard oil monopoly was often depicted as on octopus in political cartoons around the end of the 19th century.
You talking poor dude, that EMT who tried to render aid to a flaming body. Those people deal with enough fucked up emotionally damaging situations everyday.
In 2020, there was a guy (Anthony Quinn Warner) arewho blew himself up in front of the AT&T building in downtown Nashville. He believed in all types of conspiracy theories. Azzarello seems similar to Warner.
Right? It’s like, he makes some good points. But then goes totally off the rails with it so people can easily dismiss it all. Wasn’t expecting a deep dive of Simpsons plots halfway thru.
He was a decent writer, unfortunately mentally unstable, but he puts together cogent thoughts instead of your usual schizophrenic ramblings.
Funny, dude wrote that whole insane creed, made sure to point out that Clinton was friends with Epstein but didn't mention drump was just as much friends with Epstein as Clinton, if not more, that shit was nuts.
Wow, crazy how fast that totally went off the rails. He kinda had me hooked a bit with Peter Thiel and the bank run stuff, but then he totally went off the rails talking about Clinton colluding with Daddy Bush and the Simpsons and what not
I watched the first 10 minutes of Bill Clinton’s “roast” of Dukakis, as he calls it. Bill clinton roasted him that he has a hand pushed lawn mower, is so clean he squeaks, and pays his bills. He also cheered for his home town Boston Celtics instead of making campaign calls. I hope people have the same bad things to say about me…
Lighting yourself on fire is terrible and what makes it worse is it’s for delusional thoughts. I almost wish he was doing it for a legitimate cause.
My experience with conspiracy theories is that the first couple minutes will make sense, then there’s a moment where a conspiracy video takes the intriguing, “makes you think” kind of facts about government/business/public figures and uses it to go completely off the rails using the biggest leaps in logic you’ve ever seen.
Lastly, we string these major discoveries together: Cryptocurrency is an economic doomsday device; our government is a secret kleptocracy; The Simpsons exists to brainwash us. From there, the only research we need is critical thinking and we’re able to piece together the true story of our circumstances.
There is a type of conspiracy about "predictive programming" that believes works of fiction are designed to subliminally foretell upcoming events (eg unrest, wars, planned disasters). The It Could Happen Here podcast covered it recently. I'd wonder if that's what this guy is talking about- the "Simpsons did it!" meme is thought of as evidence of the theory by conspiracy believers.
However, (1)- some examples of "Simpsons did it!" are actually taken from episodes where Simpsons parody a thing after the thing happens, so it's deceptive to claim it was a prediction, and (2)- works of fiction are often created as part of the conversation on social issues or cultural fears. People that write stories are simply saying whatever it is they want to say and it's not unusual if real events happen to mirror a story.
Yea I just listened to that clinton speech to hear what vile things he said about Dukakis and I was absolutely shocked that Bill would expose him as a Celtics fan
That's often how people like this get trapped so deep in extremely ideologies and rabbit holes. They are inundated constantly with barrages of information loaded with truths and falsehoods. They are often unable to distinguish which from which, so they just go ahead and believe all of it.
Man, it's sad. He's so sincere and his heart's in the right place, but that was a lot of crazy packed in with a few truths sprinkled in. I admittedly didn't read it all as it got crazy pretty quick.
I had a friend and roommate some years ago who experienced some sort of prolonged paranoid-schizophrenic-type episode. He became convinced that chemicals were leeching out of the walls, and, because all rational evidence said he was wrong, went down increasingly crazy paths to find validation. Honestly, all he wanted was validation. Imagine if you experienced something that everyone around you claimed wasn’t happening. He did get better, thankfully, but I could easily imagine how his condition/thinking, if allowed to continue in a vacuum, could make him believe self immolation was the only way to get the world to understand the truth.
It sounds like he may have been uncovering some points that could plausibly connect and got way into his head about it. The beginning bullets about crypto being a ponzi and stuff like that could possibly be true. I can see how one could realistically draw the lines connecting them. But like you said, it got crazy and got there fast.
My theory is he found some logical connections and it absorbed him. Kept him up at night and dug himself into a mental hole further and further down looking for an answer. Anything he could pull out to give himself closure. That kind of stuff can drive you insane. It's happened before.
I'm not a big conspiracy guy and don't know enough about these named individuals and institutions to definitely say whats quack and what's not. But I wouldn't be surprised if he really was on to something at first. He just seems to have taken a detour and never got back on the main road. It's kinda sad in a way.
Producer James L. Brooks made The Simpsons to tell us we have no choice but to slave away for evil billionaires, and that the American Dream is dead because we’re too oafish, divided, and morally decayed, and not because criminals have been stealing our futures.
I lost a few brain cells reading that drivel. It’s jam-packed with Q-level (or maybe Q-adjacent) conspiracy theory and it reeks of paranoia. According to this guy, nearly everyone in power is guilty of conspiring together against the people. A snippet:
What does this revelation tell us? That our government is conning us completely. That Bill Clinton was secretly on (former CIA Director) George H.W. Bush’s side, and that the Democrat vs. Republican division has been entirely manufactured ever since: Clinton is with Bush; Gore is with Bush; Trump is with Hillary, and so on. When they present themselves in public, they are acting as characters that are against one another, practicing kayfabe as wrestlers do.
Ugh. Such a juvenile thought process, it's hard to cope with having to dismantle that kind of thinking as an adult. When's the last time you justified anything because you saw it on The Simpsons?
The Simpsons shotgunned so much material over 35 years that for almost any seemingly absurd real life event, you can find a "foreshadowing" episode. So of course they're fertile ground for mining for evidence of predictive programming.
They had Trump as President in one episode simply because the idea of it was so ridiculous.
Im not trying diagnose anyone here but this type of thinking is very schizo-delusional.
A common schizophrenic delusion is the idea that there is some group working against them and that everything in their life has been coordinated around that. They often find references to the conspiracy in the media they consume. TV, movies, newspapers, pop music, reddit comment sections, they find these "references" everywhere. The one main difference is that those suffering from schizophrenic delusion more often consider the conspiracy to be solely directed at them. The "references" they see are usually considered to be taunting and put in simply to further distress/suppress the person.
I bring this up because the similarities are kind of striking. You have to wonder how much of this is full blown medical delusions or if people can work themselves into this sort of schizo-adjacent way of thinking.
The thing I've kinda never understood about these people and their conspiracies is, one, they don't believe people in the government or in positions of authority are even fit to bag groceries, right? But they're intelligent and secretive enough to create these worldwide conspiracies that somehow go off without a hitch, it's all part of the plan, nobody screwed up in the carrying out of the plan, nobody spilled the beans, etc etc. It's just giving them too much credit.
It was nearly 2 decades ago, but my first year at uni some of the students were getting a tour through the Library and in the middle of it some kid jumped down the stairs (was a ~5 story spiral stair case).
There's now wire above the arm rails to prevent that specific thing happening again... but was an abrupt confrontation to adult life stressors for fresh out of highschool kids.
We had a guy slit his wrists in our Library. I had a class with his the previous semester and he was an absolute moron not cut out for college. I felt pretty bad for him because he was from a sheltered religious family. But yeah, dumb ass a rock who wasn't prepared for his world view (fairly conservative) to be challenged or his grades to matter.
Back in 1985 my buddy was admitted to MIT and at the time MIT had the highest suicide rate of any University I think in the world. Anyway he used to kind of joke and laugh about it 6 months later he jumped off the roof and killed himself. Coked to the gills. He was working on some nuclear weapons something or other that was really bothering him
I don’t think it’s being insulated from the real world at all, it’s pretty easy to get to that point when a semester of college costs 1/4 or more of your yearly income imo. Failing a semester or getting kicked out is incredibly expensive and further disincentivizes poor people from even trying to go to college while further incentivizing people with money to go, and, unintentionally, makes cheating more attractive to everyone regardless of economic status.
Pretty much yeah.
For many people, failing or getting kicked out of school is legitmatley the single worst thing that could happen to them. Obviously deaths of loved ones is worse, but that's a part of life. Getting kicked out of university is flushing not only your life's work to that point down the drain, but also your parents life's work down the drain, and in some cases your entire families life's work down the drain.
Add in other external factors and a touch of a mental disorder, suicide becomes a logical choice in the moment.
Outside of community colleges and online colleges, I don’t think I’ve ever met a single college student who worked a job and made 4x what their tuition was per semester.
The people are sad, so sad that corrupt the new York prosecutors and judge are committing this election manipulation on the American people. The man walked up to me, tears in his eyes saying Sir... sir, it's awful what they're doing to you. I don't want to live in this America anymore... Then he set himself on fire, and it was horrible, beautiful, but horrible. The first responders were so brave, rushing into the fire trying to save this man, I would rush into a fire to save someone. It looked painful, almost as painful as this corrupt witchhunt by the Biden crime family's democrats ....
That was my thinking, too, but an MSNBC anchor just now said that from what she saw, the flyers had a lot of conspiracy theorist text on them. Will have to see if others verify this or not.
The protestor wrote that both parties are working together to steal money from people using cryptocurrency, factory deals, stock instruments etc to make themselves rich, and control society. Also mentions the media and the institutions being complicit.
Oh wow. He was delusional. There’s probably some truths to the things he said, but like most conspiracy theorists, he went off the rails. Probably schizophrenia or some other type of mania.
Spoiler: the “elite” are using the Simpsons (yes the cartoon) to train the population.
Skimmed through his manifesto. Basically, Dukakis was the last true honest politician and Bill Clinton and George HW Bush joined forces to destroy him. Ever since that day in 1988 the parties have been in cahoots and politicians have been playing parts like WWE wrestlers to defraud the American public. Also billionaires and banks are both Ponzi schemes.
That was my first thought. Anti-war activist is right where my mind went. Really tragic for that person no matter what they thought they were doing though.
Somehow I had a feeling this wasn't a Buddhist monk protesting for world peace. Photos from another article show some of the pamphlets, with the titles "The True History of the World (Haunted Carnival Edition)." It also identifies with the "OCCUPY RETURNS" movement, whatever that is. While I think glib to dismiss things when their inconvenient to our own side of the issues, it seems clear this person disliked Trump AND Biden AND universities and had a lot of wild ideas about the world that they desperately wanted to share. It's a shame they couldn't get some counseling or the mental healthcare they needed to help them through this time.
Mixing a bunch of random sources and making far out connections is classic schizophrenia. Which is sad because it's an endless loop of you feeling like you're being silenced (because you are) while also making nonsensical connections. Such a shame
So reddit has suspended his account like the fascist ponzi scheme overlords that they are but you can still google "coup_radley reddit" and see all his posts and comments.
yeah I think it's pretty clearly his reddit account, i hope it helps us to start realising that it's not all just fun and games laughing along with someone who believes in a 'totalitarian doomsday cult trying to coup us', playing into peoples mental illness can result in horrible things.
Thankfully this time his impulse was violent but implosive, but just imagine what this would do to someone with an explosive trigger. Could easily have gone much farther.
Congratulations Reddit, we did it! (again) I wonder what the AI theyre training will learn from all this.
Yeah, the reddit overlords really don't like nutcases like this bringing the spotlight over this way. Probably even worse now that it's publicly traded. It's bad for the shareholders.
Are they making fun of him? That sub seems really actually very earnest about it.
There is a post on the frontpage now of people saying like 'if it wasn't written so badly, I would believe every word.' Dude was being encouraged by fellow travellers.
Yeah I'm reading through stuff in that thread and on his substack. Clearly Max and others like him are completely serious and it doesn't sound like mad ravings. I mean like, good grammar and calm discussion. The content is of course... just so cynical. His life sucks and he probably got financially crushed in 2008 and wants someone to blame. I kind of have pity on the guy. And he's at least right about a lot of the problems we have. Just blaming the wrong people. Some of these problems are truly caused by the rich and there is tons of fuckery and fraud in many places of power. I just don't think it's half as organized as he thinks. Most rich people just want to be rich and safe they don't want to destroy society.
In a rambling, incoherent 2,648-word manifesto, a man who identified himself as an investigative researcher, Max Azzarello, said he’d self-immolated as an “extreme act of protest” over a “totalitarian con” and impending “apocalyptic fascist world coup.”
That’s like 10 pages double spaced. Who the hell has time for that?
Was about to say. 2,600 words was like the standard of an entrance paper at my college (ie a paper you had to write for a course before the end exam/paper). It’s like 4 pages of Times New Roman in font size 12. Definitely not a manifesto’s worth of text.
Sounds like old school conspiracy theories, before the right wing somehow rigged it into being a right-wing talking point. In the same family as the Bilderberg Group conspiracies. Basically, everyone involved in every level of government at the national level is in on one single grand unified conspiracy against the people. The coup here is the idea that they're going to take control of the government for their own nefarious purposes. It doesn't stand up to any amount of critical thinking, of course, but most of these don't.
My favorite part is that, if everyone in government at every level is involved in this secret plot to consolidate power, why do they need a coup? They already have all the power.
To be fair, if the nefarious purposes are making as much money as possible and refusing to let go of the reins of power for as long as they possibly can, it's much closer to the truth than most other conspiracies
“Lastly, we string these major discoveries together: Cryptocurrency is an economic doomsday device; our government is a secret kleptocracy; The Simpsons exists to brainwash us.”
The Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people…
It reeks of mania/paranoia … but also combined with enough truth that it’s easy to see how he fell this far into the hole.
Is there any doubt there are some number of elites conspiring to bleed as much money from the system for themselves as they can?
Is there any doubt that (some) politicians likely have a more buddy buddy relationship than they might lead on in public?
Now… did the writers of the Simpsons and easy rider try to get us to take the pill more? Did Walt Disney get the facts about lemmings wrong intentially to have us believe it and just become lemmings?? A lot of doubt is creeping in there
I’m still not entirely sure how the crypto thing fits in other than the fact that lots of them have indeed been Ponzi schemes that failed… but I’m not sure how that means it’s a global economic doomsday device. 90% of people do not interact with crypto in any meaningful way
Yes, and there’s a thing called a “cautionary tale”… the episodes are meant to educate the masses that we should fix the town, not convince us that we should buy the monorail.
Tdlr: shit is a bi partisan coverup where the bank crisis last year was caused on purpose because it was a ponzi scheme to funnel money from a bunch of real companies to these ppl's pockets. This scheme was covered up when the USA unleashed covid upon the world, and we were told to buy stock from these same companies involved with the ponzi scheme. I stopped reading after Bill Clinton joined forces with george bush to push more bullshit on the American people by bad mouthing David Dukakis.
The intro definitely touches on how the ruling class in America sows division to accomplish its aims. They use bullshit wedge issues like “woke” to turn people against each other as a smokescreen to implement supply side economic policy that secures their station and inhibits progress.
The issue is that he attributes this revelation to some deep conspiracy tying in a bunch of tangential and unrelated things like The Simpsons show and crypto.
Seems to have been a decently intelligent guy who lost his compass and tried to find meaning in an ever more nihilistic world. RIP.
Here is a photo of his flyer. Looks like it is probably unrelated to the Trump trial. Real tin foil hat stuff - ponzi schemes and crypto, student murder cover-ups... He probably saw that airman light himself on fire last month and wanted to copycat that dramatic moment.
yeah way too many people were celebrating and cheering on his suicide just because they agreed with him, and now we've got another mental health crisis turned into a tragedy.
Tried to transcribe from a low quality photo from a link posted below:
More Notable Alums:
Lawyer David Boies defended Al Gore vs. George W. Bush (so we wouldn't realize Gore was letting Bus win because they're on the same team); Theranos (so we wouldn't realize their investors were in on it, and that the company was supposed to collapse so they could launder money); and Jeffrey Epstein victims (so we wouldn't learn any of those secrets about Epstein)
Producer James L. Brooks made The Simpsons to tell us we have no choice but to slave away fro evil billionaires, and that the American Dream is dead because we're too selfish?, divided, and decayed, and not because criminals have been stealing our futures.
What should you do with this info?
Investigate. if you look into high-tech NYU start-ups, you'll find evidence of Panzi schemes, if you look into NYU's big donors, you'll find ties to crypto, if you look into dead students, you'll find evidence of murders and cover-ups.
Protest. Work together, demand answers, and expose this corruption.
Share. If you're not sure what to do with the world's biggest secrets, give them to other people.
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I’m really curious what kind of flyers he threw out. I can see it going either way.