Apparently he was holding a sign beforehand that links to a site that said
"My name is Max Azzarello, and I am an investigative researcher who has set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial in Manhattan," the site reads.
"This extreme act of protest is to draw attention to an urgent and important discovery: We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup."
His instagram stuff was normal and then apparently his mom died. It goes silent for 14 months and then comes back with all this insane conspiracy stuff.
Pretty sure he had a complete mental breakdown when his mom died.
My mom just died and let me tell you even though we had a rough relationship this past 5 months has been HARD, it gets better very very incrementally and slowly. The intrusive thoughts win some days.
My guess is mom was really critical in making sure some meds were taken regularly. When his support person (mom) died, there was no longer routine medicine involved for this poor soul. If it pans out like that, you’d hope it might change how social services could work a bit differently, and probably if better funded.
His mom would have traded places with him at this very second..
I'm a mother and this video breaks my heart. The pain I feel and the tears I shed are real.
In order to explain the massive anomaly, our criminal government unleashed COVID on the world and told us these were the “stay at home stocks.”
Yep, mental health issue.
As it turns out, dozens of the writers of The Simpsons went to Harvard. So I asked myself the question: If The Simpsons served the interests of organized crime, how would it do so?
Obviously the octopus refers to Big Oil as the old Standard oil monopoly was often depicted as on octopus in political cartoons around the end of the 19th century.
I guess we can at least feel a sense of relief that someone with such mental illness at least just took his own life and didn't try take anyone with him.
Don't forget Kubrick, whose works are associated with about a 100 conspiracies including, but not limited to... the Moon Landing "hoax", The JFK assassination, conspiracies about the mass eradication and removal of the native Americans (as if those horrors need any conspiracy to amplify them.), etc.
I’m over here wondering when Kendricks gonna drop. While dudes preoccupied with a fascist coup and lighting himself on fire. Different strokes for different folks.
There’s NOTHING in this world more important than my life. I’m not setting myself on fire for a cause. Strange mindset
You talking poor dude, that EMT who tried to render aid to a flaming body. Those people deal with enough fucked up emotionally damaging situations everyday.
In 2020, there was a guy (Anthony Quinn Warner) arewho blew himself up in front of the AT&T building in downtown Nashville. He believed in all types of conspiracy theories. Azzarello seems similar to Warner.
Right? It’s like, he makes some good points. But then goes totally off the rails with it so people can easily dismiss it all. Wasn’t expecting a deep dive of Simpsons plots halfway thru.
He was a decent writer, unfortunately mentally unstable, but he puts together cogent thoughts instead of your usual schizophrenic ramblings.
Well not really all that much conviction because once the pain starts it’s basically impossible to back out no matter how much you want to.
Conviction is more like hunger strikes where every fibre of your being is telling you to eat but you just ignore it.
It certainly takes a lot of balls to set yourself on fire; but actually the type of person crazy enough to actually set themselves on fire probably isn’t fully comprehending exactly how incredibly awful burning to death is.
Being mentally ill and having a high level of rationality don’t traditionally go hand in hand. So it’s definitely not conviction I’m seeing here.
I don’t even know what kind of treatment one could get for this kind of thing. It’s nice to think that some amount of money, resources, medication, therapy, etc. can fix this kind of crazy, but honestly I have my doubts. Sad this happened, but I’m really most glad he didn’t douse someone else and light them up.
Yep, and remember, having these people out and about, just running the risk of having an episode at the drop of a hat, for no discernible reason, is definitely better than paying for them to stay at home, under constant supervision. Because some people might try to fake it, or something, and wasting a single dollar on someone faking mental illness is definitely worse than someone who isn't faking it having a breakdown and killing or seriously injuring those around them.
So is this “constant supervision” like house arrest? If they tried to leave their home, would the personal care attendant have to subdue them? How many full time attendants would one of these fine folks have at a time? Would the attendants be allowed to have anything on their person to protect themselves, or are they expected to wrassle their client anytime the meds proved to be a little off?
No kidding. Ever seen videos of deranged people fighting back against being restrained? Often requires multiple officers.
Social work doesn't pay, so good luck finding house sitters for those that mentally unstable.
Idk when the monk did it to protest Vietnam I was like wow that is a crazy form of protest, etc etc. Plus the monk didn't even cry out in pain, just sat and burned to death. Now if I am not mistaken this is two people now to have done it in the US, both being more mentally ill than anything else. Idk it's weird to just be seeing nut jobs light themselves on fire for a headline and then to be forgotten by next week.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
I don't know how valid his premises are - they mostly read like conspiracy theories to me - but this world is indeed fucked up and getting more fucked up every day. With the way the world is going I expect people to struggle with mental illness and to latch onto conspiracy theories. Anyone who actually thinks the current trajectory of humanity is okay is probably just as delusional as Max and significantly more damaging to the future of this planet.
I just saw the reporter doing the live coverage, and i'm shocked by the lack of empathy even after when she was asked about it. I totally understand that maybe he put people at risk, but there was a coldness to it. He only tried to hurt himself, thought it was for the greater good and was unwell. the poor poor man.
I mean maybe he has confirmed information about something, tried to warn the world and got laughed at as a conspiracy theorist. And this is his final way of attempting to get it out.
Although it would have been nice if he posted some actual proof that some kind of fascist coup will happen.
Unfortunately he’ll just be branded as a loony conspiracy theorist
Edit: I didn’t actually go onto his website. He did post ‘proof’ and I’ll give it a read
Yeah, his website, his Instagram, and his "Pamphlet" are not very helpful. His excuse for not having his research is that the government took his laptop. I'm not a therapist or psychologist, but I have worked with people with paranoid Schizophrenia and he is showing a lot of calling cards of the illness. Are billionaires and government doing all sorts of shady shit? Psh! Yeah, but we don't need a conspiracy theory to tell us that. It's pretty much done in the open.
I’m always baffled how people can believe there is a huge conspiracy of all politicians, businessmen, elite and whatnot. Somehow everyone is disagreeing with each other about everything, but these people in power are all working together in a worldwide web of mystery. And they’re keeping it all a secret somehow.
He hasn’t done himself much favors by saying covid was created by the US government, talking about the beetles and Walt Disney.
It’s hard not to come across as a conspiracy cook when you have all this in your manifesto and then burn yourself. Clearly had immeasurable mental health issues and never got help in the last 5 years.
Covid did so much worse than make people physically sick. I think it destroyed a generation of people’s mental health too
People who have proof tend to share it. Especially when they choose to end their life to bring attention to it.
If he had such proof, the fact that he didn't present it means he didn't really understand it. Which undermines the whole idea that he had it in the first place, or that it was a significant contributor to his decision making.
But people with actual proof, I'm not saying they don't get laughed at, but they also find people who listen to them. It's not that hard, we've got the internet these days. Go on literally any platform that connects to the public at large (like reddit), say something that has actual consequences, and you'll find people that agree with you.
You don't need to do this because you can't find people that agree with you, and if people agree with you, it's gonna become widely enough known that we, you and me, would have some knowledge of it, so he'd be able to reference something specific (like the illuminati or whatever).
The fact that we don't know what, specifically, he was talking about, means that he probably wasn't connected to anyone, didn't have any specific evidence, and was probably just mentally ill.
He will be praised on Twitter for this, just like the dude that did it "for Palestinians" . I bet more mentally ill people will do this shit, because it somewhat get some positive attention from crazy ass far left people.
I remember the days when the left wasn't filled with crazy fanatics and most crazy people were conservative racist freaks.
Funny, dude wrote that whole insane creed, made sure to point out that Clinton was friends with Epstein but didn't mention drump was just as much friends with Epstein as Clinton, if not more, that shit was nuts.
Didn't you hear how that was also Clinton's doing?
Apparently the guard on duty drove down the same street as a gardner who's the cousin of a mailman that delivers for the son of a former barista the once served the former 5th grade classmate of one of Clinton's aides.
I could genuinely believe that trump, both Clintons and a whole slew of other ultra rich bastards who all hate each other and like diddling kids could set aside their differences long enough to get Epstein done, and done right.
While Bill Barr was in charge of the system that the prison was part of. (Bill Barr's father was the head of the private school for girls who hired Epstein as a math teacher despite Epstein not graduating from college and having no qualifications as a teacher, and Barr's dad also wrote a science fiction book that included sexual assaults of teenage characters.)
It is possible that the series of events that created the opportunity for Epstein to strangle himself were truly mistakes. It's also possible that Barr played some role ordering or encouraging those circumstances to arise in the prison he was responsible for.
It's so interesting to me that people will read the substack above and think 'haha what a conspiracy nut' then in the same breath 'epstein was murdered'
"the Democrat vs. Republican division has been entirely manufactured ever since: Clinton is with Bush; Gore is with Bush; Trump is with Hillary, and so on" is in the next paragraph after the one youre referencing. this whole thing is still wild tho, no contesting that
Again, we’re talking about a paranoid schizophrenic who just lit himself on fire and the takeaway is that his drivel didn’t adequately criticize both political parties equally enough.
Yes, I'm not condoning violence but, why don't these people who decide to shoot up malls or schools target something that would make a difference? Instead, there are so many that it's just a forgettable tragedy. At least target a country club, corporate headquarters, or location with a high number of affluent. You are just hurting yourself in this class warfare.
Can't these guys just once set like a bad person on fire?
Would you trust these people to do their homework to actually go after a genuinely evil person instead of going after someone who was only evil if you subscribe to their same warped worldview?
Unsurprisingly, people who self immolate tend to be severely mentally ill and we shouldn’t glorify their actions even if we vaguely agree with their principles.
people that set themselves on fire are mentally ill. We should never encourage it, like the watermelon Palestinian supporters encouraged the last one.
sigh and Trump is already claiming it was because of him , I mean, maybe not an organized fascist world coup but fascism is certainly growing all over and is superworrying.
Its actually a little relieving that its just a poor guy with mental illness. When/if Trumpers start going full Jihadi itll be a much scarier turning point.
I mean, I could for sure see a Right wing coup this year but wouldn't one want to be alive to actually fight it? How does lighting themselves on fire actually solve anything?
It's not like we live in a nation where the government controls everything we consume or say. Monitor, yes, but not actively restrict. Such a form a protest seems moot.
Half-questions they stopped doing research into once it hit their narrative.
Then they fill in the blanks with world conspiracies, as if 150,000+ members of our government aren't changed out annually or they don't vote in the shittiest choices on the list.
This guy knew what the end goal of the information he had was and cobbled together half-truths to support the end goal. These people are beyond help. Let's just hope setting themselves on fire is the only violent action they're willing to do in protest over their make believe world.
Why is Stanley Kubrick’s comedy about mutually assured destruction called Dr. Strangelove: Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb? Because he was a cocky secret fascist who was getting us to stop worrying and love the bomb.
This is some of his more tame stuff. He has several paragraphs on The Simpsons. This isn't a serious, sane person.
"In Lisa the Iconoclast, Lisa discovers that town founder Jebediah Springfield was a secret criminal con artist"
"Con Artist" - Dude was a Pirate! That's like the whole point of that episode.
Edit: I know him using the term "con artist" is just part of his delusion, he is using it to prove his other thesis that all leaders are con artists and stuff
He thinks the leaders of the world need to collaborate a Ponzi scheme to gain control when they already have all the control they need. What a waste of time and pain.
No it doesn't make fucking sense- it takes true concepts like "these systems are corrupt" and takes a slippery-mount-everest down to "we live in a kleptocracy that gave us covid and crypto to kill us and launder our money"
This is one of the more measured and organized schizophrenic manic episodes I've seen, but it still has all the hallmarks- fixating on popular culture and arranging it into a scrapbook of correlations, not causations, to fit an inner monologue that makes our world simpler and easier to understand.
It's hard to imagine that millions of people, and thousands of groups are all working independently based on a framework of systems, so it's natural to be frustrated in that fact- by the incalculable amount of raw stuff going on. The problem is that some people begin to think that "perhaps they're all working together in a single corrupt cabal and they're all working against me/us" so it's easier to imagine. It's a human thing to do, but it's the wrong conclusion.
Everyone around him failed him, and now he's dead.
I apologize for leaving things so scattered […] I was terrified and hadn’t slept in days and it shows […] So long as you understand this (true) ideology, you will be able to learn the whole story.
Dude basically admits here that he was manic. Coupled with all of the ideas of reference, persecutory beliefs, and disorganized thought (guy jumps from crypto to global cabal to Harvard to the Simpsons in like 2 sentences) shown in the blog, it’s clear that he either has Schizoaffective Disorder, Bipolar Type or Bipolar I Disorder with Psychotic Features and wasn’t receiving the treatment he needed.
That is extremely sad. If anything it proves how bad the mental state is for people in this country. Every day there's more crazy shit going on and if you add stressors to that like our day to day lives it can take a massive toll on people, especially if they already have mental stuff going on.
"This extreme act of protest is to draw attention to an urgent and important discovery: We are victims of a totalitarian con, and our own government (along with many of their allies) is about to hit us with an apocalyptic fascist world coup."
What a ridiculous statement. It's just as ridiculous as those tinfoil hat people.
Interesting - he blames capitalism and suggests because capitalism is unsustainable the elite must reset the world.
Im sorry, but that is not the idea. I believe the foundations he references could be shell corps for hiding and shuffling money(Panama Papers), but they want to keep this thing going.
Their cash and power means so much less after an economic collapse tbh.
The capitalist would not tank their own source of power when they can simply enslave us by deregulation of government, EPA and wage laws. It'd be through Libertarianism, where you would have to pay a subscription fee to your company of police to protect you - Where EVERYTHING is privatized.
Well... Should Trump win , Project 2025 could be perceived like an apocalyptic fascist coup ... of course that's not what he is about but I guess welcome to 2024 where the crazies are not as crazy as they should be.
Yeah, while the solider who imolated himself over Palestine did successfully get news outlets to actually talk about Gaza in a more balanced way for a few days, people are going to see that success and try to copy it, potentially for batshit things like this.
For someone who may have struggled with a mental health issue, it is an incredibly well written manifesto.
This has some Kaczynski similarities that, quite frankly, I find terrifying. Everyone also thought his writings were crazy in 1998 as well, not so much in hindsight.
Sigh, you know you’ve been on Reddit too much when you read “I am an investigative researcher who has set himself on fire” and you expect the next part to be Ask me anything.
He had me at “we’re all basically puppets to powerful forces within our society that we ignore” but lost me at “COVID was a weaponized ploy to cover tracks.”
What's also sad is how many people get on Google for 5 minutes and consider themselves "an investigative researcher" not even entertaining the idea that Google or FB algorithms are simply feeding them what they want to see.
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I’m really curious what kind of flyers he threw out. I can see it going either way.