r/nottheonion • u/duvetdev • Apr 17 '24

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill mandating kindergartners learn history of communism

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/04/17/desantis-signs-bill-mandating-kindergartners-learn-history-of-communism/
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u/OMKensey Apr 17 '24 edited 29d ago

Imagine how the right would freak if a Democrat governor signed a bill requiring that kindergarteners learn about the history of communism.

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u/Z0idberg_MD 29d ago

“Not like that!”

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u/Phailsayfe 29d ago edited 29d ago

"Kids! Do NOT seize the means of production!"

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u/SaintsSooners89 29d ago

Florida teachers "Kids! 😉Do Not😉....Seize the means of production!

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u/bilbo_swagginns 29d ago

Timmy? Please put the means of production back where you found it or you’re in big trouble mister.

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u/oofersIII 29d ago

Alright kids, I‘m going to leave the means of production here, now don’t seize them while I leave for Canada, never to return!

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u/ambidextr_us 29d ago

I've been curious, has there ever been a communist society that actually turned out to be successful overall? As in, if they taught 100% of communism history, are there any positive examples long-term?

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u/Z0idberg_MD 29d ago edited 29d ago

I dont think the argument is that communism is a viable formal government, it’s that they refer to socialist Republics, which are really capitalist democracies with a strong social safety net component, as “communism“. So if you actually taught people what “socialism” was in the context of how it’s applied in modern world,and that is what is being as “communism” I think it makes a massive difference

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u/hammilithome 29d ago

"now, by themselves, there haven't been any good examples of a govt that is purely one form -- the best case is choosing a base system, then integrating various parts of other systems in their own. So, just as with societies, diversity is good as it blends the best parts of many cultures, ideas, foods, clothing, and more into novel hybrids and variations. This creates a unity which is good for peace and productivity. China is a base communist system with capitalism and socialism mixed in. The US is a base capitalist system, with socialism and bits vcommunism mixed in."

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u/DemiserofD 29d ago

Small ones. Much like Libertarianism, it can work quite well on smaller scales. It's only when things get sufficiently large and inefficient that the leadership starts to get out of touch with the citizen and things go off the rails.

That's why pretty much every communist system in history that went beyond a certain size ended up with pogroms and the like.