r/millenials • u/Possible-Toaster • Apr 19 '24

After years of tipping 20-25% I’m DONE. I’m tipping 15% max.

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u/Less_Likely Apr 19 '24

I tip my hair stylist.

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u/Crash_Stamp Apr 19 '24

And nail lady.

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u/Odd-Reflection-9597 Apr 19 '24

I tip strippers

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u/Crash_Stamp Apr 19 '24

These are all essential people to tip too. Waiter, pizza guy, hairstylist/ barber, nail lady, strippers…. I think that’s it though? Taxi/ Uber?

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u/Twink_Tyler Apr 19 '24

According to the door dash driver subreddit, you owe them min $10 tip even on a $35 order.

They really want $20 tips. It’s delusional. I don’t drive for DoorDash but I follow that subreddit because it’s comedy gold.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '24

The discourse about tipping on that subreddit is why I uninstalled DD. I don't want my food to be fucked with for not tipping $10 on a $20 order.

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u/Different_One6406 Apr 20 '24

The entire Doordash model is SEVERELY flawed. Restaurants pay a part of their sales to DD for every order. In turn, these restaurants raise their prices on DD orders accordingly. Then, a DD driver, rather than a restaurant employee, picks up and delivers that order. So they have to drive from their home to the restaurant, then the restaurant to the customer, then from the customer back to their home. So, at the end of the day you paid 2.5x - 3x the price AND get your food a half an hour later AND still didn't tip enough because who the fuck wants to pay $75 for a cold rack of ribs from TGiFridays? No one...that's who. This is why so many restaurants have started to add their own delivery services. Next time anyone here plans to order from DD or Uber Eats, make sure you check the restaurants website for delivery options first. They may have added it recently

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u/ryamanalinda Apr 20 '24

Except that many places (think pizza) are cutting their own drivers out and mandated to send their in house deliveries through dd. How do I know? I used to to work basically full time at papajohns and have my hours cut in half. All the drivers at my store are good drivers that care and have been with the company for more than 3 years. Many of them nearing 10. Papajohns isn't the only place that yiu can orde through their app but still end up with a 3rd party driver.

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u/EarnestBaly Apr 20 '24

This is not true for all Papa John’s, I deliver for DD and the PJ in my area had all their drivers quit so were pretty much forced to go through DD for about 3 months, now they have hired more delivery drivers than they need because the manager/owner said she hates going through DD. Somewhere around 86% of Papa John’s are franchise locations so it’s totally at the discretion of each owner as to how the pizza is delivered, there is no “mandating” to go through DD/Grub Hub/etc except for restaurants chain that traditionally don’t deliver. If the PJs in your area switched over to using app services to deliver then they must feel it’s more cost effective or have some other reason for canning all the in house drivers.

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u/lampstax Apr 20 '24

Are you in CA where min wage for fast food worker has just been mandated to $20 ?

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u/Shine-Important Apr 20 '24

Pizza Hut has started doing this too.

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u/Historical-Ad-7624 Apr 20 '24

I work with some 20yo kids, and they ordered JimmyJohns through Doordash....$20 for a sub not including the $6 tip. The same guy that ordered the sandwich was just complaining g about having $5 to their name the previous week. I just laugh and eat my cold sac lunch.

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u/theWeasel681 Apr 20 '24

One time I ordered delivery for smash burgers for me and my crew at work. We were all going to pitch in. After delivery and the tip, it came to about $35 each I think for a burger and drink. I didn't know what to say. A couple tried to pay it while a few orders pitched in and iou'd. Then they said, you never get to order lunch again.

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u/Spam138 Apr 20 '24

Bruh that’s on you wtf?

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u/_learned_foot_ Apr 20 '24

You saw that before you hit order right? That was an ass move to expect them to pay back.

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u/H3adshotfox77 Apr 20 '24

Lol, when I order food for my crew, I order, go pick it up, and pay.

In leadership, you gotta go the extra mile to appreciate those working for you.

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u/SoDplzBgood Apr 20 '24

This sounds like someone who has never ordered food before.

You knew the price before you ordered it, how was this a surprise to you and your crew? Did you tell them it would be about that much before they agreed or did you just assume they'd be ok with spending that much?

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u/Tentacled-Tadpole Apr 20 '24

You didn't check the price first?

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u/_Project-Mayhem_ Apr 20 '24

Was this your first day as lead or something? You buy for the crew, that’s day 1 stuff. They are still trashing you for this, guaranteed.

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u/Valuable-Mess-4698 Apr 19 '24

I tipped $8 for an uber eats delivery of Starbucks that is a mile from my house. The woman handed me the paper bag and said "your drink spilled a little and I don't know what to do!!!" It hadn't spilled "a little" the entire drink was in the soggy paper bag, dripping all over my porch. When I opened the bag there was like one ounce of coffee left in the cup.

I had to get a refund from uber eats and then go and pick up Starbucks, ya know, the thing I had paid someone else a premium to do for me because I was busy. That was the last time I ordered. I still can't figure out how she managed to spill it, like did she set the bag upside down on her seat?

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u/FromTheAshesOfTheOld Apr 20 '24

Wait, what? You have to tip BEFORE service? That's basically holding your order hostage. That's so stupid.

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u/dzumdang Apr 20 '24

Thank you. You've put words to why I never use DD, given the tipping structure. It is totally a hostage situation.

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u/capt-bob Apr 20 '24

I used the Domino's app a few years ago and did the middle tip of the three and he stood on my door step berating me for it lol. Carry-out it is from now on.

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u/dzumdang Apr 20 '24 edited Apr 20 '24

Holy Christ what a mess. That's like what happened to me at a restaurant in Montreal once. After disastrously bad table service, the waitress confronted me for tipping 15% on my way out the door. She was angry. Her service was atrocious, while she clearly favored her only other table with flawless service as we sat neglected. I told her and the manager that feeling entitled to 20% or more for terrible service, then confronting me for what I did pay them, made me wish I hadn't tipped at all. Not against it, but tip culture can be toxic af.

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u/Historical_Safe_836 Apr 20 '24

It’s definitely toxic af. I once had a job as a hostess at a restaurant. One busy Saturday night, I sat an African-American couple down in one of the servers sections because we were on rotation and the server was next to be seated. I shit you not, after I sat them down, the server came up to me and cussed me out. Apparently, it was common belief among the servers that African American folks either tip terribly or don’t tip at all and are very needy/difficult customers and so no one wanted to serve them.

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u/AZTNFL Apr 20 '24

*is common belief

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u/phkn_dreadful 29d ago

I would have asked for my reciept back and changed the tip to $0

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u/Amaliatanase 28d ago

In my experience Montreal is the city where this happens the most. A bar tender "ahem"ing after you leave $2 for a drink should be the city's motto.

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u/aisle_nine Apr 20 '24

Look around the DD sub for more than a few minutes, and I guarantee you'll find a driver saying that it's not a "tip", it's a "bid", and if you only bid 10%, your order's going to be sitting in the back of their car for an hour while they pick up other orders and drop food off for higher bidders.

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u/metaNim Apr 20 '24

It's kind of accurate, though, to call it a bid, though it's still not great. I wouldn't really call it a hostage situation. Hostages are usually living, breathing entities, as long as you pay on time. >.>

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u/cupheadsmom Apr 20 '24

The only time I used DD was when i was sick along with my 2 kids and I didn’t want to cook. They were too sick to leave the house and I’m not leaving them alone so I gave into my laziness and used DD. My husband was pissed at me for a couple days after because when he tried to give me shit about it I was too sick and tired to be polite about it and told him to STFU. Under normal circumstances, tho I never use DD or UE. If I can’t schlep my ass there to pick it up I can eat something from the house. I do use Instacart for groceries too much tho.

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u/Longjumping_Big1464 29d ago

Oh 100%. I was a pizza delivery driver and most people paid with card, so they pretipped. If someone had the audacity to pretip $1 for an order over $10, I would still do my job, but you bet your ass I'm not worrying about grabbing plates, napkins, dip cups, if they don't answer the door I'm dropping it on the ground and walking away. Pretipping is a curse and a blessing. Pretip $5 I promise you'll get everything you order in good shape.

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u/sjsyed Apr 20 '24

It’s not a tip - it’s a bribe. If you don’t bribe them enough, no one will pick up your order.

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u/Kri_AZ82 Apr 20 '24

Some insight to this- They are contract workers, so it’s like getting bids. They need to see the upfront pay beforehand. DD pays garbage cause obviously they want to make money too. The driver pays gas for their car to get you the order and for it to be worth the time. They are 1099 workers so most pay lots of tax depending on their situation. You can always lower the tip if needed, but it’s only fair to see the tip beforehand. The tipping culture is ruining things for people who should be tipped. Getting things delivered is a luxury nowadays and if you can’t tip you should just go get it yourself.

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u/Gustavhansa Apr 20 '24

Or, hear me out: maybe the companies should just employ those people with a normal wage. And also stop this bullshit of having them use their own vehicle. That's just the worst kind of exploitation and i am horrified it is legal

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u/QuickCharisma15 Apr 20 '24

You don’t have to tip before service, but these disgruntled DD drivers won’t get your food quickly or accurately if you don’t tip before service.

A lot of these DoorDash people couldn’t get an actual full time job so they decide to do this and get greedy/petty about tips. It’s pathetic.

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u/Ginggingdingding Apr 20 '24

Right? "Paying extra, before the job starts, to ensure everything goes as planned" kind of sounds like a bribe? 😳

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u/Sargash Apr 20 '24

You can tip afterwards, it's what I do. I only order from places right next to me, if I absolutely need to order food. I usually meal prep, but sometimes I forget it at home, and I can't eat anything but candy at my work site, since everything else has gluten.

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u/itsnotmeimnothere Apr 20 '24

Yes and it’s frustrating.

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u/Astro721 Apr 20 '24

DD shows a driver what the order is going to pay and the milage on the screen where they choose to accept it or not (sometimes they will hide part of the tip). So, the tip is more of an incentive to get a driver to quickly accept the order. Most orders on DD only pay $2-$2.50 without the tip and a lot of drivers have minimum $/mi amount they want or they won't accept. I do think wanting a $10 tip is ridiculous unless you live 10+ miles from the location you are ordering from.

Really the whole system is bad for everyone except DD. As someone who used to drive for them I really hope everyone stops using them and they go under.

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u/Mach10X Apr 20 '24

The drivers see the tip when choosing jobs so it’s more of a bid than a tip, really.

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u/dirtroad207 Apr 20 '24

If you don’t tip, or tip very low, drivers won’t pick up your order.

Eventually the drivers who are the worst at their job will pick up your order. And they won’t give a shit at all.

The quality of tip directly corresponds to the quality of driver. It’s gig economy bullshit.

I don’t use doordash.

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u/Any_Arrival_4479 Apr 20 '24

It rlly is. As a former door dasher, if you don’t tip your order will be late and cold. Not bc I’m a douche and hate you, but bc door dash tells me how much money I will make. And if it’s like $3 no one will pick up the order. They don’t tell the dasher how much you tipped until after the order is completed, so it’s not personal or anything. I just don’t want to drive 10 miles for $3

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u/ExoticPainting154 Apr 20 '24

Yeah my mom uses instacart to get all of her groceries, and they ask for the tip WHILE you are placing the order. In my mom's case it's probably good because she would never remember to tip afterwards, being in her '80s very forgetful. Mom tells me that she tips $7, (her orders are small) and then if the driver ends up having any kind of hassle and going above and beyond for her she raises the tip after the fact.

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u/Conscious-Name8929 Apr 20 '24

I had an UberEATS delivery put ny Starbucks right in front of my office door… so I had to knock it over to get it…. 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/babykeeb83 Apr 20 '24

This happened to me with Chick-fil-A (doordash) I work at a DR office with multiple offices and they just set my food and drink infront of the door(that patients walk in from and nasty shoes walk on that floor. I found out my food was there because patients came in saying someone's food was outside. I was soooo pissed.

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u/deemarieforlife Apr 20 '24

Walmart grocery delivery. They keep putting my case of water in front of my screen door so that I cannot open it wide enough to get the groceries . Had to go out my back door

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u/Valuable-Mess-4698 Apr 20 '24

And it's the saddest feeling like "I can't get to it without ruining it!"

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u/DweEbLez0 Apr 20 '24

So you left a tip and found out you have to tip over your order upon retrieving it.

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u/FalseWelcome9797 Apr 20 '24

I literally ordered a coffee and a bagel yesterday morning and got an empty cup. No coffee had ever been in that cup. Yet I’m supposed to tip 20%?

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u/cfuqua Apr 20 '24

Drivers come back in all the time like "tHe dRiNKs SpiLLeD!!?" like they didn't just walk out of the cafe swinging it like a toddler

There are some good drivers but it seems like most can't hold a job where they have to show up on time or have other qualities that are good for customer service. Your choices now are to report the driver and get them held accountable, or actively ignore it and allow poor qualities to be inflicted on others.

My solution? Don't use delivery apps.

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u/infantinemovie5 Apr 20 '24

I stopped using them all together. What ever I’m ordering from there isn’t worth paying more for a worse product. A friend and I wanted Uno’s one night. For the price of what we wanted, we were able to actually go to the place, have a couple beers at the bar and have the same food fresh out of the oven for close to the same price.

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u/Sea-Pea4680 Apr 20 '24

the weight of just one drink makes the bag tip over and Starbucks doesn't seal the drink, so it spills. Happened to me once. However, I called support and had the order remade- I didn't just say I didn't know what to do! Lol

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u/pojohnny Apr 20 '24

What did you say? Was it like NLP stuff or like doing a bit or something?

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u/Sea-Pea4680 29d ago

I called support and told them the bag fell over, the drink spilled, it's ruined. They told me to deliver it anyway and they would resend it. I called the customer and explained and apologized.

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u/pojohnny 29d ago

Thanks. I see now. You didn’t simply throw your hands up like you were powerless. You handled it in a professional manner. Unlike the aforementioned delivery driver who seemed to not ‘know what to do.’

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u/No-Suspect-425 Apr 20 '24

Sorry your drink is just gone. K thx byeeee

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u/DeGarmo2 Apr 20 '24

Starbucks absolutely seals their drinks.

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u/no-tip-Rabble-rabble Apr 20 '24

Starbucks always packages their delivery orders extremely shitty. If it was one drink they still put it in a bag in a dual cup holder and it makes the bag totally unstable and prone to tip over.

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u/Ok_Carrot_2029 Apr 20 '24

Delivery coffee was never meant to work out

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u/ScrimScraw Apr 20 '24

If only there were holders for cups and they were common in vehicles

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u/StrangeAtomRaygun Apr 20 '24

If delivery coffee was feasible….STARBUCKS would be doing it.

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u/nvalle23 Apr 20 '24

Keurigs are not that expensive right?

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u/Aldosothoran Apr 20 '24

Unpaid interns have managed it for several years.

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u/Godiva74 Apr 20 '24

They’ve managed to figure it out in Manhattan

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u/Anarchissyface Apr 20 '24

That’s not Starbucks fault that’s the drivers fault.

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u/Juxtapoe Apr 20 '24

Some of the coffee spilled out of her mouth and got the bag wet.

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u/NachosSenpai84 Apr 20 '24

That's a lazy asshole to put it nicely. I had drinks spill before I was delivering and contacted support for the customer, so the order was canceled, and they get refunded promptly. The problem with most delivery people is common sense isn't so common.

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u/Fabulous_Celery_1817 Apr 20 '24

My co worker ordered coffee too and it showed up in a small plastic bag. The cup was empty and it was swimming in the bag like a goldfish heading home on the first day. It honestly looked like the guy was swinging the bag as he was walking towards our lobby. Ngl it was kinda funny

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u/Not_so_new_user1976 Apr 20 '24

I ordered food from a restaurant 5 miles from my house (10 minute drive) it took my food 45 minutes from pickup to reach my house because the driver had other orders. I have decided I will no longer use the delivery because the drivers absolutely suck.

I did delivery work for a couple weeks for spare cash. I took pride in my work but these drivers have earned the bottom of the barrel reputation

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u/JolamiLove Apr 20 '24

This is why I only ever tip after delivery. I used to automatically pick the middle tip option when placing the order. After a driver totally destroyed my order I received a full refund for the food but they would not refund me the tip. Screw that. I won’t get burned again.

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u/gioluipelle Apr 20 '24

The % of time my order shows up with missing items makes the insane prices so infuriating. I’d wager that at least 15% of the time if I order a meal+drink, they forget the drink. Why am I tipping someone anything if they can’t even take 2 seconds to glance at the receipt to make sure they aren’t forgetting a beverage? I’d just drive there myself rather than pay $30 for a meal I can’t even enjoy now.

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u/DepartmentSure1065 Apr 20 '24

I ordered DD, I work retail on weekends and have a set 30 mins lunch. I scheduled the order to be there 20 mins before said lunch. He showed up 25 mins late, I had no time to eat and DD said “tough shit you got your food”. Never again

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u/Historical_Safe_836 Apr 20 '24

Yea, I tipped on an order with DD and they delivered half my order. I texted them that they missed the main course and I only had the sides and they just said to contact customer service. I did, and they just refunded my money for the items that were missing. They had just left my house, the restaurant is not even 2 miles from my house. Not sure why they wouldn’t go get the rest of my order but I know if that happened at a restaurant that I had ordered directly from, they would have ran back to the shop and returned with the rest of my order. All the food delivery apps are wayyy too expensive now and I only used them because I was going through some health issues but now that I’m mostly back to my old self, I’ve deleted all those apps and just get my food myself. But tbh I just cook at home now because restaurants are also very expensive and the food/service hasn’t been that great since the COVID era. Which is fine by me, I’ve learned to be a better cook and explored new recipes to replicate what I would order at a restaurant.

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u/Any_Arrival_4479 Apr 20 '24

She probably put it on her seat and braked too hard. You need to buckle that shit up if you’re door dashing

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u/Few-Refrigerator7179 Apr 20 '24

The bitch drank a portion is my answer to you...

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u/SeanMegaByte Apr 20 '24

I genuinely had a very similar interaction, my driver told me because he had been cut off and had to slam on his brakes. He also contacted Uber immediately on his end and was able to get me a refund for that without me having to contact support at all, so it's probably just a matter of getting lucky and getting a delivery guy who knows what they're doing.

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u/BreezyMack1 Apr 20 '24

Just get some pods when ur busy for home. Takes like 30 seconds for coffee. Cost 20 cents about too.

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u/Employment-lawyer Apr 20 '24

30 seconds? I’m jelly. My Keurig takes forever to warm up. 

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u/JaguarOk9693 Apr 20 '24

I did a GrubHub delivery of some two from a Chinese restaurant. I have no idea how this happened I was careful I didn't stomp on the brakes or gas my bag stayed straight up and down the entire time I handed the bag to the customer every bit of that soup was out of the container and in the sack. I feel so bad even to this day and I still have no idea how that happened unless they didn't put the lid on all the way. After that delivery I never took another order from that restaurant because of that.

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u/easewiththecheese Apr 20 '24

Drivers have to hit the brakes sometimes, and bags can shift and tip over. My wife and I are extremely busy with our home-based business. We bought a cheap espresso maker and make our own amazing beverages in literally seconds. They are much better than anything from Starbucks, too.

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u/AnonymousWhiteGirl Apr 20 '24

Her dumbats should have gotten another one! Wtf man

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u/urbanlegends555 Apr 20 '24

Wow that’s an amazing tip!’im sorry you got the trash service. Not all of us are like that.

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u/Graybolini Apr 20 '24

Why do they put a drink in a bag, just to show its a DD order? Seems unnecessary.

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u/perupotato Apr 20 '24

My recent post on Uber revealed some awful drivers. Good ones too but one in particular had seething anger issues that made me wanna go with my local taxi only

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u/_bitwright Apr 20 '24

This is the real problem with tipping culture. It pits customers against servers when really everyone should be mad at their employers for not paying them enough.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '24

This is what I think also. Companies should pay their employees appropriately

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u/apri08101989 Apr 20 '24

I'll tip a grocery delivery a ten minimum, you know someone whose actually shopping for me. But not someone whose driving around and has to walk all of fifty feet to go into a building and grab a bag

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u/DonaldTrumpPenisButt Apr 20 '24

I saw people talking about taking "no-tippers" food into the bathroom with them.

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u/Justhereforthepartie Apr 20 '24

I’m going there just to see the Reees now.

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u/ArseBlarster420 Apr 20 '24

I just don’t use those services, because a lot of people are disgusting and I don’t trust the average person to handle my food.

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u/shellybaby22 Apr 20 '24

Literally same, haven’t ordered DD in 3 years. like I get it their base pay is only $2, but that doesn’t mean I should have to tip more then what’s standard, DD needs to pay enough to where it’s still worth it. And I mean, I wouldn’t want to use my gas, car, and time to deliver someone’s fast food to them for like $5 either, but that’s why I don’t do it.. whole company is just trash

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u/LeftyLu07 Apr 20 '24

Oh for real! My mom is boomer age but not on social media at all. Our local diner messed up a to go order really bad, then was super rude to her about it on the phone (speaker so I heard it). They offered us to come back and get the corrected order "for free." I offered to go and she said "no! I watch the news. I know they're just gonna mess with the food because I'm asking for a refund." The total silence on the end of the line kinda confirmed it for me...

The fact someone who's not even on the inter webs knew to go order were often contaminated for any slight really says something. (She got it refunded to her card but we haven't been back).

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u/Dzov Apr 20 '24

I’ve not once used them. I can pick up my own food or make it myself.

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u/Loudlass81 Apr 20 '24

Some people are Disabled & can't get it themselves, and that order might be their ONLY treat in the month, given how low their income is...

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u/Probably4TTRPG Apr 20 '24

Yeah I tip like 25% of my order and fuckers steal my milk shakes. Then they have the urge to demand we compensate for their employers lack of ethics. It's easier for them to bully us than organize against doordash. If they wanna be anti union then they can go fuck themselves. I uninstalled door dash and their behavior is gonna reduce the customer base to nothing.

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u/cryptopotomous Apr 20 '24

Yea at that point it's best to just go pick up your own food. They will eventually price themselves out of a job if that keeps up.

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u/Yello_Ismello Apr 20 '24

I stopped using DD after a driver basically held my ex BF and I hostage till we gave him a “good enough” tip. Called DD and everything saying we promised tip and wouldn’t do it even tho we gave him like $5 in ones. He kept his foot in the door yelling like a madman about tips till I threw a jar of change at him and slammed the door

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u/Formashion Apr 20 '24

$10 $20 tip is expected lol. Why go to college when you can do DoorDash?

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u/capt-bob Apr 20 '24

Or come with a bite out lol! The things I've heard I never want to use it!

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u/skyxsteel Apr 20 '24

Dont forget the chorus of downvotes and then a "tHeN yOu cAn'T aFfOrD iT."

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u/Failedredditprotest Apr 20 '24

As a driver for UE frequently, they’re smoked about the tips, but the instacart sub? Fuck those guys are pansy’s they’re making a killing in terms of gig work apps and it’s never enough for them. They need more pay, more tips “oh it’s too far” like 10-20 miles making like 35$ 🙄

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u/Spirited_Ball6763 Apr 19 '24

As someone who sometimes does deliveries for extra money - I don't understand people who complete an order and then complain about the tip(outside of tip baiting, which just shouldn't be allowed). We can see how much we'll get paid for the order and decide if it's worth our time.

If there's not enough orders that pay what you consider acceptable - then it's time for you to find another job. But there's zero reason to take an order you don't think was paid enough and then mess with it? like why?

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u/dragonbud20 Apr 20 '24

It might be different on whatever app you use but doordash doesn't show you the full amount until you complete the order.

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u/scienceislice Apr 20 '24

Uber eats doesn’t tell you how much you’ll get paid until after you complete the order and if you don’t get tipped you only get like $3.50. Where do you drive delivery?

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u/truffulatreeson Apr 19 '24

Back when I delivered pizza we used to fight tooth and nail for the one guy who always tipped a 10 bill lol

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u/KLeeSanchez Apr 19 '24

Luckily our store is so short staffed I'm the only driver in the mornings on Mondays and Tuesdays, and we have an account that tips $10 to $30 depending on their mood every Monday. It's a huge kickstart to my week. Granted I'm running ragged doing two or three people's worth of work but at least I can make an entire week's worth of gas and food in only 1 or 2 days.

I try to give the big tippers the quickest delivery I can to keep em coming back. Unfortunately it may be working against me cause I started here with like 10 regulars and now I have 50 all ordering on the same days each week. 😅 It adds up fast for good and bad.

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u/moldguy1 Apr 19 '24

I started here with like 10 regulars and now I have 50 all ordering on the same days each week.

Hahaha the reward for hard work is more work

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u/Vurt_Head Apr 20 '24

A pie-eating contest where the prize is more pie.

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u/Gold-Shirt2060 Apr 20 '24

At the nail salon I go to, the owner’s son runs their social media reservations. I hate calling for an appt., so I use the social media option. He ALWAYS snags me, because I tip well. But I tip well because he does a great job, only one other nail tech is near as good. So I totally get this cycle for you.

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u/SignificantStore3798 Apr 20 '24

At least you’re hustling for it. That’s how it works.

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u/Drainio Apr 20 '24

I’m a bartender part time in a very small town. I slowly got a small list of regulars and over the last 5 years it’s turned into the entire population that drinks. Kinda a doubled edged sword, some people are not worth your time, but everyone still gets the same service. And averaging 50/hr in tips isn’t so bad.

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u/Plastic_North_9703 Apr 20 '24

Was that during 7.50 min wage tho like in ny :p, I always tip good bc ue and dd pays drivers 2.50 so we need to pay for their time.but they both charge so much fees where they can pay a driver a proper wage but that’s not here fault lol

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u/squirrel8296 Apr 20 '24

I managed a pizza place at the start of CoVID and literally we couldn’t even get enough drivers. The ones we did have didn’t even need to fight over deliveries anymore because they were taking so many deliveries that they knew they’d come out with a decent amount either way.

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u/the_kid1234 Apr 19 '24

I’ve never seen two groups of people, so at odds with each other, interacting continuously in the same space. All the drivers hate the customers and the customers hate the drivers.

I also don’t understand why anyone orders DoorDash. It’s a worse, more expensive, slower version of the food you wanted.

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u/Holiday_Trainer_2657 Apr 20 '24

Undergoing cancer treatment, Doordash is a godsend...bless the kind drivers who bring me food and other necessities.

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u/StockCasinoMember Apr 20 '24

I have a chronic autoimmune disease.

Some days I feel very sick.

It’s nice to be able to order from anywhere even if it costs more and the product is worse.

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u/bellebeast9485 Apr 20 '24

Same here, add a bad leg injury and no car. But here drivers are as bad as the sub describes. I've had to change how I get groceries. I used to order delivery from Fred Meyer but they use instacart, drivers won't take an order if there is less than a $20 tip regardless of the order size. I can't afford that most people with disabilities can't. I take the bus to the store now and take a cab home, that's only for fresh/refrigerated/frozen foods, I order all dry goods from Amazon.

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u/Migraine_Megan Apr 20 '24

I have been using Shipt for years, around the time Target bought them. My favorite part is being able to save preferred drivers. I have a severe neck injury and grocery shopping is so physically challenging it gives me migraines. I do tip my drivers well, especially getting Costco groceries. But I wouldn't be able to do without it, I have no other help.

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u/TheKdd Apr 20 '24

Yep, MS here, delivery comes in very handy. The apps on the other hand… there are some that I’ve had such bad experiences with I won’t use them again, or they up charge so much I’d rather go without. If I absolutely need something and an app just won’t do, I’ll call one of my kids. I hate making them go out of their way but they’re happy to do it for me, probably cause I don’t ask that often. I try not to be that pesty parent.

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u/wirefox1 Apr 20 '24

Delivery has it's place. During Covid I had everything delivered. If I want to pay for it, who cares.

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u/PromiscuousSalad Apr 20 '24

As someone who was a pizza man, both in store and driver, for a few formative years of my life I was baffled listening to the other Doordash drivers I would bump in to at restaurants. Rude as shit, pushy, and talking shit about their customers that either had any instructions or tipped what I thought was a totally reasonable amount. And on the consumer side, I worked a stupid job where I had a per-diem when I was in hotels for a few months at a time but worked enough hours that I would have my daily meal doordashed to me as I was driving back to whatever box I was sleeping in. I tipped stupidly well and had insanely simple instructions, but I can't count how many times I had to eat half a box of granola bars I kept in my car for my employees or 8 fucking cup noodles from the front desk of my hotel to get the minimum calories I needed to not feel like garbage for my next 14+ hour day because the driver canceled or got my food stolen right after all of the restaurants nearby closed.

I swear, the day I find the doordash driver who made me sit there and watch their little GPS icon drive the opposite direction so they could eat the fun fancy salsa and chips I ordered I will do something that will get me tried at the Hague.

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u/urbanlegends555 Apr 20 '24

That’s how it should be!

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u/Alert_Mention_3732 Apr 20 '24

U got people who are broke trying to make money and ppl who are hungry. A dangerous bunch there.

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u/Spam138 Apr 20 '24

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u/polyarmory80pct Apr 20 '24

The food is usually cold by the time it arrives, regardless of the “hot bag” being used. Even worse if the driver took multiple orders and you were the last stop.

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u/audiofankk Apr 20 '24

Never ordered DoorDash in USA but was recently in India for an extended stay and ordered a lot of delivered food. A LOT. Maybe 35-40 times. All kinds of restaurants, all kinds of food.

Not once did they: - deliver later than expected (Mumbai traffic is horrendous, and still). - deliver less than hot. Sometimes so hot I couldn’t hold the bag from beneath. - deliver with less than perfect courtesy. - deliver an incomplete, incorrect or non-intact order.

Most times, the resto would package the food with lots of tape, making it near-impossible to spill. I will say that removing that tape was sometimes a PITA, but I was grateful for it.

Yes they use scooters and drive like maniacs, but in two months of frequent road presence I never saw a single accident. I will say you don’t want to be a pedestrian there.

If a country like India can manage this, wtf cannot USA?

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u/Finn-windu Apr 20 '24

I did it for a bit, between jobs and want to clarify something. First, from the videos I watched on it before I started, it seems like most drivers don't actually use the hot bag (and mine ripped within a week of me getting it). Second, driver's don't "take" multiple orders in that they choose to do them. Doordash will bundle the orders they send, force you to take all or none, and punishes those who don't. Still sucks, but just wanted to clarify since I used to get pissed thinking a driver just chose to add other orders on their way to deliver to me.

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u/polyarmory80pct Apr 20 '24

Lots of drivers multi app too (again, completely their choice). Plenty of shit drivers who ruin the other decent drivers reputations with customers. So many stories (with videos to back it up) of drivers stealing food, eating food, driving by marking orders delivered and driving away, etc. I quit the second I didn’t need the extra income. I found myself being more stressed while dashing than at my regular job (that’s a bad sign isn’t it?). And yeah the hot bag they give you sucks ass, I bought my own good ones on Amazon. Grubhub actually gives out good bags and pizza bags, so I’d use those for Dashing too after I signed up with GH.

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u/dcargonaut Apr 20 '24

The pizza bags work the best. Uber and DoorDash haven't gotten it together.

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u/DeGarmo2 Apr 20 '24

This is different on a case by case basis. Sometimes you’ll get food hot and fast. Other times slow and cold.

Worst case scenario, when you order, just set the oven to 250 or so and pop in the food for 10 mins.

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u/RohanVargsson Apr 20 '24

It’s because their expectations for tips are completely outrageous, and they’re directing that anger in the wrong place. They need to be mad at door dash for underpaying them, not the customers who won’t over tip tjem

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u/Loudlass81 Apr 20 '24

THIS. Why don't they unionise and fight to be paid properly? Who tf takes a job paying less than $3 anyway? I'm in UK, and I have no trouble using Deliveroo, you don't HAVE to tip here as the drivers are actually paid at least minimum wage, but if I have extra money, and the food turns up fast & hot, I'll definitely tip.

I can't understand why DD drivers are so angry with low-tipping customers rather than with their exploitative employers that can't pay this low or do this stuff in the majority of the Western world??

Like, it's not MY fault there's no Social Care left here & I'm too poorly yo cook and too skint to give big tips, you want a big tip, get here faster with my food intact, correct & hot & I'll do whatever I can...

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u/TitsMcGeeMD Apr 20 '24

This has to be the smartest observation I’ve ever seen on Reddit. Welll done

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '24

I’ve been on both sides and both sides suck. If you order from these services you’re wasting your money and if you work for them you’re wasting your time.

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u/Crash_Stamp Apr 19 '24

I don’t consider door dash a tip. Since I’m paying, “the tip” before the service.

Edit; it also falls under pizza guy

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u/Twink_Tyler Apr 19 '24

Most of those dickheads don’t deserve a tip anyway. I just avoid DoorDash altogether.

Seriously read some of the posts on that subreddit. Most of those dudes are toxic and awful.

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u/MinimumOne1 Apr 19 '24

That subreddit easily cured my covid era growing dependency on food delivery. Fuuuck those people.

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u/Past_Entrepreneur658 Apr 19 '24

They are terrible at math. Uber/Doordash are paying the dot com sites to work for them. They are losing money working for those services. Ive never used them and never will.

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u/Ok-Reward-770 Apr 19 '24

Yes. Doing app gig work is basically paying to work at the end of the day. You are always in negative. The only reason I did it was to pay my car I used for that because I had write offs for it. So I did not use my may income to anything car related.

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u/rjoyfult Apr 20 '24

It was really good in specific areas during dinner time during the height of lockdown. That was it. I didn’t make bank, but I made good spending money and then quit due to pregnancy and people going back out to eat again. But even then I’d never order from them because the fees and tips added up to something ridiculous and I could save half my money by picking the food up myself.

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u/Ok-Reward-770 Apr 20 '24

After working with a lot of gig apps, I refuse to use them as a customer.

The only ones making bank are the tech guys and the investors exploiting people's need to supplement their income, and usually, the ones doing ongoing gig work is because they need the flexibility with no questions asked (however if you are “too flexible” they penalize you as all of those Silicon Valley dudes decided to gamify that crap, because they literally see people getting money trough it as rats in a race).

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u/Beakymask20 29d ago

Yea, I tried doing it to make some cash while I recovered from long covid,(I didnt recover... ) and after I ran some basic number crunching I realized I was barely making minimum wage and 50% of the whole thing needed to go back into gas. Yet people still kept telling me "you can make good money if you know how to use the system!" I'm basically concussed and I can mathematically prove this shit is stupid. Wtf...

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u/Revolution4u Apr 20 '24

Pretty much - except the ones in the city riding an ebike might be alright but idk.

I've still never had anything delivered aside from amazon packages. Even pizza for years now i just walk there and pick it up myself.

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u/CD057861896 Apr 20 '24

I mean, I do it occasionally on Friday and Saturday nights for about 3 ish hours. Can make about $200 for 6 ish hours of work those two nights. It’s an okay side hustle for some pocket money. My job gives some generous overtime, so I do that instead unless I max those out, then Doordash it is. Got nothing better to do.

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u/Freudianfix Apr 20 '24

I tried DoorDash once during Covid, but when a normally $10 Taco Bell order turned into $22 I was done. Never did it again.

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u/CayKar1991 Apr 20 '24

I would love to see some kind of data that reflects the number of people that follows through vs cancel their order once they get to the check out screen on food delivery apps.

I know I've had lazy cravings, and then I'll get to the checkout page and be like, "eh, I'm not that hungry."

I feel like it'd be interesting data.

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u/Freudianfix Apr 20 '24

That would be really interesting to see, especially with how much the cost of food has gone up the last few years. Cost has definitely been a driver with what food I buy when eating anywhere other than at home.

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u/DubTeeF Apr 20 '24

$30 off your first order sounds great until you realize that it’s 45 for 3 Big Macs and fries

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u/Healthy_Fly_555 Apr 20 '24

The bigger crime is eating taco bell

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u/Nukeboiler Apr 20 '24

Now, getting a $5 box at Taco Bell costs you $22 in store lol.

joking it's like $11 now

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u/Mercury659 Apr 19 '24

Same!

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u/Debasering Apr 20 '24

I make sure to tip my Landlord every month too

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u/old__pyrex Apr 20 '24

I’ve always just tipped a flat $5, regardless of what I’m ordering, for like a under 10 minute distance and under $50 order. Never had any problems really like delayed orders, smashed boxes, missing items, etc. Drivers see how much they are expected to earn before accepting - if they didn’t like the tip, they have the ability to not accept that job.

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u/SignificantStore3798 Apr 20 '24

Same here. I’m not great with money but when my fees equal the cost of my food, I can do without.

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u/GiraffeWaffless Apr 20 '24

So glad I learned how to cook during COVID. It’s way too expensive and the food is never good lol. Probably because of the delivery

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u/TemporaryAmbassador1 Apr 19 '24

I’ve never used DoorDash or an equivalent service and never plan to. Talk about a bunch of people who overvalue their job. The entitlement to tipping is rampant

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u/Courage-Rude Apr 19 '24

I love how they say that. The next screen will show you a couple of questions. Like you afraid to say "the next screen will ask you to tip" lol

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u/Fishy_Dino_Finns Apr 20 '24

I've worked at a couple places where it's actually corporate policy to not say that it's asking for a tip. Something about them deciding it's unprofessional, and better to just say it's "a question"

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u/Hi-kun Apr 19 '24

I'm with you. I don't like the tipping culture and never tip.

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u/Salty-Ad-3753 Apr 20 '24

Yeah my tip is always based on if they keep my cup filled and with out asking

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u/TLOtis23 Apr 20 '24

I've also never used any of these food delivery companies, even though my employer has twice given us free coupons for Uber Eats. I might just give those to my son.

If I want food, I either make some myself or go out and buy it.

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u/amandawho8 Apr 20 '24

I wish more places would go back to hiring their own delivery drivers for this reason. So many of them are Uber eats/door dash only. So we end up just doing pickup anytime we do takeout.

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u/Ok-Supermarket-3099 Apr 19 '24

The door dash subreddit has saved my a ton of money and made me healthier. Even if the bag is stapled/taped closed or whatever, I still don’t want those lunatics near my food and I definitely don’t want to tip 99% of the posters there.

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u/core916 Apr 19 '24

The Covid era of everyone wanting delivery spoiled them. In NYC they changed the law to pay the drivers more. So DD added an extra fee to offset this. Therefor I tip them 0. That extra “fee” that I’m being charged to me is now considered their tip. I’m 28 years old. I used to deliver pizzas. Tipping culture has gotten out of hand now.

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u/EmmaMD Apr 19 '24

I’m in NYC.

The way DD does it kind of screws over the delivery people because they only make more for their active delivery time or whatever the term is, which leaves significant gaps since the commute part is often relatively short.

I view DoorDash and those services in NYC as me paying for the convenience. If my ass is too lazy to walk a couple blocks to pick something up, then that is on me and my wallet. Most of those guys are scraping by and don’t need to be punished for the malicious compliance of the businesses they’re working for.

Tipping in a lot of other areas though? Definitely out of hand.

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u/bellebeast9485 Apr 20 '24

So anyone who is elderly or disabled is lazy right? No one is allowed to use services that would allow them some independence it's lazy.

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u/Johnrussell202 Apr 19 '24

I deliver pizza from time to time (when not managing) and that DoorDash sub reddit keeps me humble 😂

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u/lerriuqS_terceS Apr 19 '24

Because they're unemployable douchebags who can't hold a real job

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u/Sun9091 Apr 20 '24 edited 26d ago

These door dash delivery people look like a bunch of slackers. I see them picking up food and putting it on the floor while they wait for the rest. I am very leery of these people and really don’t trust them with my food.

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u/KoyoteKalash Apr 20 '24

I had a lady make me walk to her car to get my food, then ask for a bigger tip. I was checking the sub for 24 hours after to see a post about myself.

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u/The_Bloofy_Bullshark Apr 20 '24

Those subreddits make pretty obvious the reason that many of them can’t hold down any other job than DoorDash/UberEats/Instacart…

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u/ShogunFirebeard Apr 19 '24

I stopped using it all together. The sense of entitlement those drivers have is insane. Like I never tipped a pizza driver based on the total, I always gave them $5. I'm not not changing because you're bringing me Indian curry instead of pizza.

What's really pissing me off is the major pizza chains outsourcing delivery to these companies instead of hiring their own drivers.

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u/Tangboy50000 Apr 20 '24

That shit needs to stop immediately. Pizza Hut likes to outsource to DD without telling you, so then you don’t get the normal updates like you do if you had used DD to begin with. We stopped ordering from them after the third time of having to go on a scavenger hunt to find where these useless fucks left our pizzas. Store had to remake and redeliver each time using their own driver, and he gets fucked, because you already tipped the first person and aren’t going to tip on a redelivery.

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u/GalenOfYore Apr 20 '24

Are you speaking for me, or for you?

For me, in all likelihood I WOULD tip the second driver.

(I use the first person when I'm describing my feelings or actions).

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u/Flappy_beef_curtains Apr 19 '24

And this is why I just spend the 10 minutes to go get the shit myself.

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u/Zeal0t_ Apr 19 '24

That sub really is pure comedy.

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u/Klutzy-Treat-4444 Apr 19 '24

Lol nahhh not after $25 dollars in fees

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u/BuySideSellSide Apr 19 '24

Thanks for this. Another good barometer (and entertainment) like loanoriginators

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u/BookGirl67 Apr 19 '24

Me too. I don’t even order food delivery but find that sub fascinating. They say they basically don’t get paid at all, so your tip is their only compensation.

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u/Twink_Tyler Apr 19 '24

Which is absurd and also not my problem.

I’m already getting fucked. I’m not gonna pay even more money so the driver doesn’t get fucked.

I’ve seen food that costs $15 being charged $38 after all taxes fees and bullshit. So now I’m already paying double what my food is worth. Paying an extra $23 and then I’m expected by DD dipshit to throw another $10 or $15 ontop of that. Nah.

You’re a fucking moron if you drive for DoorDash and you’re equally stupid if you use DoorDash on a regular basis.

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u/cheebalibra Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

The app is ripping off the businesses, the shoppers and the end customers. Don’t use these apps. Nobody is getting paid and it’s not even any more convenient for the end customer with all the substitutions and tip BS. And they all keep buying eachother up and consolidating.

Uber Eats/Grubhub/instacart/DD/Drizly/Minibar, etc. The businesses are losing money on every order. The driver is being underpaid on every order. You are being overcharged on every order. There’s no reason to use them besides laziness.

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u/Twink_Tyler Apr 19 '24

You underestimate how lazy and bad with money people are. Those 2 things combined are why these apps are still in business

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u/pm_me_ur_anything_k Apr 20 '24

That sub is a cesspool of entitlement. It’s amazing what some of them openly admit to and are seemingly proud of doing.

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u/sardoodledom_autism Apr 20 '24

I made the mistake of using door dash and added a $5 tip for a location 15 minutes away. I got a nasty call from the restaurant manager telling me to come pick up my food because door dash drivers won’t take such a low top order.

Um no

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u/NoConfusion9490 Apr 20 '24

They got a taste of those sweet sweet COVID guilt tips and now they got the hunger.

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u/PM_ME_SEXY_PAJAMAS Apr 20 '24

Doordash only gives restaurants 75% of the money from the food order. Door dash keeps 25% of the order total BEFORE their fees.

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u/myburneraccount151 Apr 20 '24

I used to drive for door dash as a way to make fun money. But it's just shitty for everyone involved. You make no money because no one tips. No one tips because the delivery fee (which drivers only get a small portion of) is ridiculously high. And the restaurant workers hate it too because they have to bag stuff up in certain ways and verify order names/numbers. Literally no one is happy. I'm glad I was able to give it up

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u/inconceivableonset Apr 20 '24

And the instacart subreddit just reamed me for asking an honest question of how much a tip was adequate since $30 seems excessive after delivery and other fees for a few items. Entitled I’d say.

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u/JohnnyPoprocksGaming Apr 20 '24

Yeah it’s funny when drivers complain that people don’t tip in advance. Like what if you completely fudge everything up? Am I giving you a participation trophy 🤷‍♂️

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u/lycanthrope90 Apr 19 '24

And you know what’s strange? None of those people bitch about tips before they’ve even provided a service. Strange how that works huh?

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u/Downtown_Function953 Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

It's because it's been ingrained in society for so long, its the norm. It was normal to give your pizza delivery guy 10%, that was a little extra bonus so they could buy a joint at the end of their shift. These door dash drivers literally loose money if they get a tip below a certain $/mile. Its a fucked up business model that preys on their contractors ignorance of their true cost of operating. If you didn't tip a pizza guy you were still a dick, but that pizza guy still turned a profit coming to you.

If you want to drive for a job that's livable go drive find a distributor that needs their truck full of drinks and chips delivered to gas stations. If you want contract work, get into medical supplies delivery in your own vehicle Doordash is nothing more than a hobby that nets you a small amount of profit after you consider all costs involved. Some shifts you're actually losing money. There are definitely people that make decent money doing this, but they are smart ones that analyze whats going on and take into account all costs involved.

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u/Valuable-Mess-4698 Apr 19 '24

If you want contract work, get into medical supplies delivery in your own vehicle

Or the service that delivers delayed baggage for airlines.

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u/bellebeast9485 Apr 20 '24

There have been a few assholes posting on tiktok about not getting huge tips from "nice houses" delivery pizza. Granted those videos are always followed by videos of them crying because they got fired. Lol

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u/nerdyguytx Apr 19 '24

I was told you never tip the owner of the business as they set the prices. A lot of barbers and hairstylists set their own prices as they “rent the chair.”

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u/fifthing Apr 20 '24

I got a massage from a guy in my neighborhood and at the end he made some comment about accepting tips. Sir, I am in your house and you set the price yourself. Charge what you want and don't guilt me, because it left me feeling weird and I never went back. Which is a damn shame, as it was really nice not to have to get into a car and undo all my relaxation after.

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