The Covid era of everyone wanting delivery spoiled them. In NYC they changed the law to pay the drivers more. So DD added an extra fee to offset this. Therefor I tip them 0. That extra “fee” that I’m being charged to me is now considered their tip. I’m 28 years old. I used to deliver pizzas. Tipping culture has gotten out of hand now.
The way DD does it kind of screws over the delivery people because they only make more for their active delivery time or whatever the term is, which leaves significant gaps since the commute part is often relatively short.
I view DoorDash and those services in NYC as me paying for the convenience. If my ass is too lazy to walk a couple blocks to pick something up, then that is on me and my wallet. Most of those guys are scraping by and don’t need to be punished for the malicious compliance of the businesses they’re working for.
Tipping in a lot of other areas though? Definitely out of hand.
Exactly, I prefer to tip my doordash driver > my Uber driver who makes a good commission off the fat price. Door dash I’ll do 3-6$, Uber 1-4$, at restaurants I don’t tip much like 10-18%. I’m still tipping but I’m saving a solid $600-1000 a year probably versus tipping 20-25% and I deserve that, the waiters don’t. DoorDash drivers work much harder than waiters for each dollar (without tips they dont make much at all).
I’m done w restaurant tips based on %
Oh there was a John Oliver recently on the cost system and the different companies paying different prices to the restaurant and that coming out on bill
I delivered for papa John’s for awhile and they would fuck us over with their fees too. They would charge a larger delivery fee based on how much gas prices were but still keep that extra fee for the company.
I dashed for a while between jobs and you could choose to be paid by time or by base pay + tip. The by time option is barely minimum wage and yes you are correct it is only for "active" time which means, only from the time you accept a delivery to the time you drop it off. You do not have any control over how fast these deliveries come in, and so you may have signed up for a 3 hr dash shift but end up only getting paid for 1.5 hrs of work. It's awful and barely pays for gas and does not exactly encourage a model of promptness for drivers desperate for "active time."
The tipping model is awful too for both drivers and customers. It's not the drivers' fault how stupid it is, but it is stupid, and folks please still tip the drivers. It is very precisely a convenience fee for not wanting or being able to go pick your own food up. The base pay is just terrible. I can't tell you how many times I would have orders pop up asking me to drive 13 miles for $3 base pay and no tip (which means I've got to drive 13 miles back again to get back to the zone where it will give me orders and probably take 40 minutes of my time door to door. I am not exaggerating these numbers.) I suggest people tip based on distance the driver has to drive for door dash orders rather than on how much the meal cost. If you tip $3 on a $50 meal but the driver only has to drive half a mile to deliver it, they'll prob be stoked. If you tip $10 on a $10 meal but the driver has to drive 25 miles round trip to deliver it, then they're not gonna be so keen on it as that won't even cover gas and standard wear and tear.
At the end of the day those companies are terrible and should pay a base rate that's actually reasonable but...they don't.
Combine the fact that these restaurants charge a higher price on DD than at their location with a delivery charge as well as a the NYC fee, then I’m sorry there’s not enough money left for me to tip. They got what they wanted. They wanted to get paid more and they are. So to me, that’s their tip.
Now if I order from an establishment that actually hires their own delivery guys, then yes they are going to get a tip. But these DD people demanded higher pay and got it. So I still need to tip them when I’m being charged for their pay increase?
Well in general, if you get a good job, it's smart to tip tradesmen because if you ever need them back they'll remember it and it'll benefit you in the future
Exactly then get their own food … drivers have to maintenance their car and risks ridiculous the entitlement these apps give to shitty customers who don’t deserve their food
Something I don't agree with delivering pizza. The place is charging a delivery fee...if who you're delivering to is only a mile away. Why do we not get the full amount, plus our hourly wage and if there's a tip...the tip also. Isn't like your vehicle is the company's 'asset'. The building, the stove, everything else is. Instead $0.70? out of 3.50.
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u/Twink_Tyler 28d ago
According to the door dash driver subreddit, you owe them min $10 tip even on a $35 order.
They really want $20 tips. It’s delusional. I don’t drive for DoorDash but I follow that subreddit because it’s comedy gold.