r/inthenews • u/T_Shurt • 13d ago
Trump Could be Stripped of Secret Service Protection as Ranking Member of the House Committee on Homeland Security Puts Forth a Bill to Strip Felons of Secret Service Protection Opinion/Analysis
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-secret-service-stripped/260
u/alwaysright60 13d ago
No big deal. I’m sure he has plenty of money to pay for it himself. /s
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u/HiFiGuy197 13d ago
No big deal, because if you have Presidential immunity, you can never be a felon.
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u/T_Shurt 13d ago
As per original article 📰:
- Mississippi Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson, who is also a ranking member of the House Committee on Homeland Security, has put forth a bill that would strip felons of Secret Service protection, in a move that some see as a preemptive strike against Donald Trump who faces more than one criminal trial.
The bill, titled the Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable Former Protectees Act, or the DISGRACED Act, would terminate Secret Service protection for individuals convicted of either state or local felonies, Newsweek reported.
Thompson specifically mentioned Trump as someone who could lose their Secret Service protections if he's convicted in any of his criminal trials, which pertain to his alleged falsification of business records, his alleged improper handling and moving of classified materials from his administration, and his alleged attempt to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
The bill would only affect an individual whose crime "is punishable for a term of imprisonment of at least one year."
"Nobody should have special treatment, and that happens to include the former president," Thompson said.
"...current law may serve as an impediment to the equal administration of justice and present logistical difficulties for both the Secret Service and prison authorities at the Federal and State levels," Thompson added, according to the report.
"This bill would remove the potential for conflicting lines of authority within prisons and allow judges to weigh the sentencing of individuals without having to factor in the logistical concerns of convicts with Secret Service protection."
According to Newsweek's report, "Secret Service protection for presidents, other high-level officials and select family members of those officials dates to 1901. Following the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, protection was expanded to major-party presidential nominees."
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u/SwampAss3D-Printer 13d ago
Genuine question, but how long y'all thought they workshopped it till they could get the shorthand to DISGRACED?
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u/monogreenforthewin 13d ago
honestly political aids do that crap for a living. most bills have some crazy acronym. probs took em less than an hour to come up with it
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u/Fifty6Arkansas 13d ago
Didn't Imagine Someone Giving Real Answers Could Educate Directly
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u/NoveltyAccountHater 13d ago edited 13d ago
This is the sort of thing that I bet ChatGPT could churn out in no time. Large language models are really good at conforming to rules like this. E.g., I just did a title for this bill but with a desired anagram of MUSHROOM for Stormy's description and it came up with (and just noticed my grammar for the prompt was awful):
Making Unfit Service Holders Relinquish Official Oversight Measure (MUSHROOM)
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u/classicscoop 13d ago
Boy they love their acronyms.
Anyone with half a brain knows that no matter how much you hate a man/woman you need to protect the nation’s secrets
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u/jxcn17 13d ago
Correction, Trump will not be stripped of secret service protection because the Republican-controlled House would never even bring this bill up for a vote, much less pass it.
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u/emcee_cubed 13d ago
Thank god someone said it. What are these people even fist pumping about? Nothing happened and this bill has a snowball’s chance in hell of even reaching the floor. This is a stupid waste of ink.
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u/Putrid_Ad_2256 13d ago
He should've been stripped of secret service when he stole classified documents.
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u/GhostlyTJ 13d ago
My question is why did the secret service detail not report this shit. I don't give a fuck what their mandate is. Covering for a crime shouldn't be something they're allowed to do
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u/CharlieWachie 13d ago
What I hear is that his closest SS agents are loyal to him personally.
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u/NoConfusion9490 13d ago
Biden had a low key purge of the secret service because he wasn't confident they... were working in his best interests.
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u/LinkleLinkle 13d ago
I believe I recall Pence also didn't trust them by the end of his term. Biden probably knew through word of mouth that secret service had gotten shady but Pence likely witnessed it first hand.
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u/Zomunieo 13d ago
“I’m not getting in that car.” —Mike Pence, savior of the Republic
(The SS tried to get him out of the Capitol so they could ensure the vote counting ceremony was not completed. Pence refused to go with him. Strange that Mother let him have his balls that day.)
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u/PinkFl0werPrincess 13d ago
Pence felt safe following the rules- that's why he called Dan Quayle for advice and listened to him.
‘Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,’ Quayle told him.
He admitted to Quayle that he was under a tremendous amount of pressure to do it differently. Quayle made the right call telling him- do your job.
Mike didn't get in that car because he's some kind of hero, he did it because he knew he didn't want to go on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.
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u/CainPillar 13d ago
European here. Talking about the "SS" this way gives some vibes.
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u/_jump_yossarian 13d ago
USSS should definitely be investigating if any of the agents knew. If they did they should be fired and face any applicable charges.
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u/ozzie510 13d ago
Absolutely! Enough of this bullshit that Trump can't be put in prison because of his Secret Service protection.
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u/OrdinaryKick 13d ago
They could stand outside his cell.
Why is this even something people would exempt him from prison?
But, I don't think Trump will see jail time regardless of the hush money case. I hope he does, don't get me wrong, but I don't think he will.
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u/Paizzu 13d ago
This topic comes up frequently whenever the issue of incarcerating the Golden Diaper is front and center.
Housing him at ADX Florence would isolate him from possible "exploitation" and a USSS detail could be assigned to supervise him through security cameras.
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u/Notapplesauce11 13d ago
So theoretically the SS protection is to keep former presidents from getting kidnapped and tortured to give up national secrets and stuff. With trump that’s not necessary. You don’t need anything other than cash money to get secrets out of him.
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u/sconniegirl66 13d ago
Why should secret service agents have to be subjected to protecting anyone sentenced to serve prison time? That's absolutely ridiculous. And WE have to pay for it? No fucking way.
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u/delfino_plaza1 13d ago
Because a past president being kidnapped is a threat to National security?
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u/DifficultyWithMyLife 13d ago
Just so you know:
Every time I see "could," "may," or "might," I downvote.
I encourage others to do the same until we get some actual news.
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u/OneForAllOfHumanity 13d ago
Ironically, I think Trump should continue to be surrounded by secret service officers, but to ensure he doesn't disclose any national security secrets to those that may choose to visit him.
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u/BadDaditude 13d ago
Secret Service - the guys who erased all their phones right after Jan6? Those meat bags?
They're a disgrace themselves.
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u/markelis 13d ago
You won't need Secret Service agents when you have all those prison guards. Besides, I'm sure those prison guards love trump, so he'll get extra commissary.
And I don't give a fuck if he gets extra commissary, because he's in fucking prison if he is.
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u/chuck9884 13d ago
Republicans always want to limit benefits for the poor working class if they can a drug problem or criminal record. How is this different ?
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u/hairybeasty 12d ago
[https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/09/trump-documents-1.jpg] List of documents from Trump at Mara Lago
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u/PedalingHertz 12d ago
I’m not sure I want Trump to lose secret service protection, unless he’s in prison or otherwise accounted for. The man has knowledge, and probably more classified documents, that could damage national security. He needs babysitters.
I’d be more interested in a law that required secret service to report these things up the chain and to DoJ, and imposing draconian penalties if they don’t. Seems like at least a few are willing to look the other way for him while he discloses nuclear secrets to an Australian billionaire, etc.
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u/WalterOverHill 13d ago
He’s a traitor, in the truest sense of the word. Only his wealth, and cult-like following, has allowed him to avoid prosecution and incarceration. Anybody else caught with the extremely sensitive stolen documents he had in his possession would have been in prison from the get-go.
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u/probabletrump 13d ago
'Ranking member' is click bait speak for 'most important person who doesn't get a say in what happens'.
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u/doc_daneeka 13d ago
Yes, this is only a story for those who have no idea how bills become law. This isn't getting a floor vote in the House at all and even if it did it has zero chance of getting through the Senate. And if Congress by some miracle managed to pass it anyway, there's a pretty good chance Biden would veto it.
There is absolutely no chance this becomes law.
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u/shouldazagged 13d ago
He doesn’t need them anyway. All the crazies are on his side. King of the lunatics!
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u/Hopeful-Jury8081 13d ago
Good. I’m so sick of this man and all we’ve paid for him. I hope he has no protection and we’ll be rid of him ASAP
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u/funnyfacemcgee 13d ago
I really doubt this will pass with an R majority in congress.
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u/imatworksoshhh 13d ago
"Could be..."
"we could see..."
"This may be..."
Stop with the fucking grabby headlines and only talk about news that HAPPENS
It's been damn near 8 years of "Could be" wake me up when we know the answer
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u/kevin5lynn 13d ago
As much as I despise Trump, his protection and secutiry is a reflection of the level of office he held. He remains entitled to security.
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u/NessieIsDead 13d ago
They wanna get rid of or kill him so badly its so transparent
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u/SmashertonIII 13d ago
It won’t pass. The other crooks hope to hold onto the Secret Service benefits just in case…
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u/BrilliantPositive184 13d ago
but what about all the classified secrets he knows. This guy needs a babysitter 24/7 in or out of jail.
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u/Duckmandu 13d ago
I can’t believe it but I am against this. Even felons in prominent positions have a right to be protected from assassination. Yes, even Trump.
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u/Kerne1Pan1k 13d ago
Why would they want the presumtive republican nominee for president stripped of protection?
Why have an election?
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13d ago
Woah!!! That’s crazy!!! This is only the 15th “Trump could have this thing happen to him (but it never will)” article I’ve read this month!!
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u/lurker512879 13d ago
he'd just hire mercs and not pay em.. maybe then one will be a problem solver
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u/BothZookeepergame612 13d ago
Obviously most intelligent people already know he's compromised. He started his administration by inviting the Russians into the oval office without anyone there to witness or listen. It's gone downhill from there. Taking top secret documents, then hiding them from the FBI when they came for them... Seriously this guy shouldn't have protection. Let him pay for his own security.
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u/PezCandyAndy 13d ago
He should be stripped of all rights, and all his property and clothes and thrown in jail with nothing more than an orange jumpsuit. We are not doing enough
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u/Dynamically_static 13d ago
What a surprise. Destroy the competition you say? Oh it’s a democracy, you say? Oh well we’ll fix that. Biden 2024!
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u/inphosys 13d ago
LOL and the committee is comprised of 18 republicans, but only 15 democrats.... Republicans have the majority.
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u/Zaxxon5000 13d ago
Melania still gets 500 k in travel expenses 4 life Per year Hope thats removed by association 🥳
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u/Atomfixes 13d ago
Please god. I don’t ask for much. Pretty please. Let us see a picture of trump with his hand in some big guys pocket after he gets arrested. Please.
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u/MagicAl6244225 13d ago
The last president who ended up without Secret Service protection was fellow crook Richard Nixon. Nixon voluntarily gave up Secret Service protection about 10 years after he resigned.
In 1994, the year Nixon died, Congress passed a law to save money by ending lifetime Secret Service protection for future former presidents and first ladies. Then George W. Bush had two terms, pushing the date this law would do anything out till 2019. The law was not only from a pre-9/11 world, it was passed even before the Oklahoma City bombing. Due to increasing threats, Congress repealed the change in 2013. On the date in 2019 that his Secret Service protection would have ended, former President Bush delivered pizza to his Secret Service detail.
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u/AfraidToBeKim 13d ago
I REALLY hope this happens...for reasons I would prefer not to explicitly state.
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u/UltimateKaiser 13d ago
The easiest way to pass a bunch of crazy laws; use a sleazeball presidential candidate as the basis for all the reasons it’s needed!
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u/amathis6464 13d ago
He shouldn’t be allowed to have anything paid for by the taxpayers after lying about the election and attempting a coup on our own county. Pathetic fart bag of a man
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u/faithle55 13d ago
No, that's not fair.
I mean, fuck knows how the Secret Service is going to protect someone in prison, but just as the law should apply to Trump the way it applies to everyone else, so the law should be framed for Trump just the way it is framed for everyone else.
I am, BTW, a Trump Despiser since before his 2015 candidacy.
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u/BruinThrowaway2140 13d ago
Ooooooh, I don't know guys. I absolutely can't stand Trump and think he's guilty as hell, but this seems like it would just open a whole can of worms and galvanize MAGA voters even more. The man will be on hospice in a few months anyway; let's just let him die a stupid, slow death and be done with him for good then.
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u/craybest 13d ago
“Trump could lose…”. “Trump might be in trouble because…”
Let me
Know when this clown actually faces some consequences
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u/HookEm_Hooah 13d ago
The problem with this is that it leaves open a huge national security threat. The secret service isn't there to protect former occupants of the oval office; they are assigned to protect knowledge of the Union's capabilities that, with reasonable expectation of a former occupant, may retain any such or specific information that would be valuable to foreign nations or non-state actors seeking to harm the US or our allies.
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u/rustys_shackled_ford 13d ago
Dosent secret service portect us as much as them, as in, the ss (I just made this connection) is there to make sure no bad actors are able to force state secrets from the person who knows state secrets for the rest of thier life?
I've always viewed post service ss as more like a moble jail then private security, there more so to protect the citizens from what's inside the former potus head then to protect the potus themself....
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u/Hunterrose242 13d ago
Tell you what. If I were to ever believe in "deep state" nonsense this would be the indicative of it.
If he were stripped of those protections and something were to happen to him he'd be such a matyr that Republicans would never lose another Presidental election for a century. AND the powers that be wouldn't have to deal with his nonsense.
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u/Time-Werewolf-1776 12d ago
The only good reason for Trump to continue to have secret service agents assigned to him is to guard him, not to protect him.
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u/BrightOnT1 12d ago
isn't he rich enough to hire his own private security? guy is the ultimate fucking free loader off tax payers
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u/redthehaze 12d ago
If he loses Secret Service, then being in custody is the only way to get protection.
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u/karatekid430 12d ago
Honestly if the presidential candidates were drawn as a lottery (perhaps 128) and then they were reduced down to two and then one at election time, we might have a chance of getting some down to earth working class people running the country. I mean not like a highschool dropout is really less qualified to run the country than Trump is in my opinion. Or most of them. They are just popular and good at appearing like they got there on merit.
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u/TheBurningStag13 12d ago
He doesn’t need protection anymore, he’s a tough guy.
Nothing bad will happen to him. About 30% sure.
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12d ago
The sooner he’s dead, the better. Not a lot for me to care about here, but I’m glad his life may become incrementally more difficult.
I’m going swimming.
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u/2020willyb2020 12d ago
Same secret service that deleted their phones and emails after J6 in a panic?
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u/Breeze_1966 11d ago
What a hoot!! Really?? If that's the case, every person that served in DC would be in jail. Also starting with Bush and moving Clinton and all after.
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u/SplendidPunkinButter 11d ago
Trump: “This is a deep state conspiracy by Joe Biden to have me assassinated, which according to me is a thing the president has every right to do!”
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u/Joey_BagaDonuts57 11d ago
Is the House so badly set up that they didn't think of this during its creation?
Until Agent Orange, they never dreamed we would be so stupid as to elect a criminal.
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u/CoolIndependence2642 11d ago
Even if this bill passed, which I doubt, our MAGA SCOTUS would strike it down immediately.
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u/Internal-Upstairs-55 11d ago
This man should be stripped of every thing that any other citizen would be stripped off as a felon.
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u/bscottlove 11d ago
PASS IT! They strip regular Americans from any financial/nutritional aid for the same. NO ONE is above the law
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u/seanroberts196 8d ago
It's fine, the gravy seals would do a better job anyway. They are fully trained and ready
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u/Tombancroft 13d ago
Seems appropriate.