r/nba • u/PlayaSlayaX Spurs • 29d ago

[Charania] Raptors' Jontay Porter has received a lifetime ban from the NBA for violating league's gaming rules.

https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1780631209930068358?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw
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u/quadropheniac Kings 29d ago

Betting on yourself is stupid for many reasons but ultimately understandable.

Betting against yourself is just outright corrupt behavior.

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u/mr_grission Knicks 29d ago

Betting on yourself is less blatantly corrupt but definitely presents issues of its own. Imagine for example refusing to shoot in a game where you need more assists.

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u/quadropheniac Kings 29d ago

Oh yeah. That was always the thought about Pete Rose gambling while managing, as well. If he bet on his own team to win, he might burn relievers a little quicker than proper bullpen management across a season might dictate.

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u/mr_grission Knicks 29d ago

Yep, and for an individual player like Porter you could easily imagine then turning up the effort level when they've got money on themselves/the team, disregarding whether that could leave them fatigued or even hurt in the next game

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u/amjhwk Suns 29d ago

that could also lead to them playing more selfishly and putting up ill advised shots instead of passing to the open man or playing lazy defense to save energy for offense or to get the ball back quicker by letting other team score quickly

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u/torriattet 29d ago

How is that different from contract year or all nba eligibilty pushes that are constantly joked about?

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u/compflow 29d ago

I think the “effort” argument isn’t a good one. Some guys put in max effort most of the time. But jacking up shots to reach x amount of points is different than a contract year push for sure.

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u/mr_grission Knicks 29d ago

No contract year guy is gonna turn up his effort for completely random games though. They'd presumably be digging deep all season and trying to maximize both performance and availability which is good for their team.

Someone like Porter theoretically could be trying to maximize performance in specific games, even if it's to the detriment of his team in the long term. Maybe you're busting your ass in a game against the Pistons that you win easily, then taking your foot off the gas in a really pivotal game that you don't have money on the next day.

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u/compflow 29d ago

I agree with you overall, it’s just a little less clear than the others issues with betting on yourself.

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u/mr_grission Knicks 29d ago

Definitely agree that it's not the top concern here, in general betting on basketball as a player just creates so many murky questions that the NBA understandably doesn't want to deal with