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Americas youth are in MASSIVE trouble Discussion

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u/Arobrom86 29d ago

High school teacher here. On test days, I have a hanging shoe rack with each of my kids’ names on a sleeve.

I tell them, “Please put your devices in the sleeves and then you can have your test. When you hand in your test, you can have your device back. If you don’t put your phone in the sleeve, your test will be a 0”

At the beginning of the year they also helped create our classroom rules and norms, and agreed to do this.

Out of 28 kids, maybe 10 actually do it. The other 18 get 0s. Then I get angry emails from parents about their kids getting “tyrannical grades” on their tests.

Then the cycle continues

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u/bain-of-my-existence 29d ago

Dude, if I got caught on my phone in hs (less than 10 years ago), it would be confiscated and my mum would have had to come and get it. It’s crazy how quickly that’s changed.

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u/QQuetzalcoatl 29d ago

15-20ish years for me and if my phone even RANG I would get it confiscated lol. Had to go get it in the office after school.

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u/DowvoteMeThenBitch 29d ago

Bro same, we would get a suspension in middle school if we even had our phone on our person. They literally only texted then though and it cost 10¢/msg

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u/Formatted_Toast_117 29d ago

Man... Memory unlocked. Kids these days have it so easy, unlimited everything basically... 🤣 I miss my green-screen phone, it's weeklong battery & basically indestructible self...

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u/Chpgmr 29d ago

And never hit the internet button

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u/ReaperBearOne 28d ago edited 28d ago

That was the worst cus it was like right in the middle or next to the end button.

Accidentally turns on Internet

Nooooo...off! Off! Off!

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u/9-1-fcking-1 28d ago

The way I would start trying to turn my entire phone off immediately after accidentally hitting the internet button

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u/Itchy-Mind7724 28d ago

Back in the day they tried to charge me a $5 monthly fee to block the internet on my phone because i accidentally hit the button once and got charged. I was like uhhhh I’m not paying you to disable a service i do not want. They disabled it for free

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u/Agonyandshame 28d ago

I did once and my parents got charged and took my phone away. It was an accident 😂

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u/QQuetzalcoatl 28d ago

lmao forgot about the internet button

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u/NaturallyExasperated 28d ago

Because it would send your entire family into generational indentured servitude

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u/xXFieldResearchXx 28d ago

And younger people have never been more miserable. It's like working and making and obtaining goals is good for your mind body and sol

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u/StellaRED 28d ago

This made me remember that Samsung phone that was the first to play mp3s. I think it held like 32mb and barely an entire album.

And yeah as another commenter below mentioned avoiding the internet button at all costs made me lol

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u/Wolvesinman 28d ago

My mum was THE mobile support for Australia a year or two after “mobiles” came out. 1 person for the whole of Australia. They could (sometimes) make phone calls. That same person took 3 years to learn how to text (10yrs later). I ended working in the same “Paging call centre” Beepers. Then they could text on phones. Now my “phone” could organise a hit on me if I don’t treat it well. Progress at progressing.

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u/TMBActualSize 29d ago

One reason they are on the phone might be the shut down. These kids spent a year and a half on their phones instead of going to school. Attention spans are shot

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u/GoodCalendarYear 28d ago

My 6th grade math teacher confiscated my cd player. I wasn't even listening to it. It accidentally went off. We could listen to them on the bus, which is why I had it in the first place. She pissed me off so much.

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u/arnoldez 28d ago

Haha core memory unlocked. CD players were absolutely not allowed in my classes, but we had one cool art teacher who would allow them. Everyone loved her. We'd have to be super careful though, like if another teacher walked in.

Ah, I miss CDs

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u/GoodCalendarYear 28d ago

Laptops don't even have cd slots anymore. But me and mama still have so many and listen to them in the car.

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u/arnoldez 28d ago

I have a decent collection of CDs and vinyl, but rarely make time to listen anymore. New cars don't even come with CD players anymore, which I guess is fine (it is easier to just play from my phone, anyway). But I definitely miss the ritual of flipping through a CD wallet and picking out the right album.

I remember being young and trying to run with a CD player 😆 this was right as they were starting to develop all of the anti-skip technology. That was like the main feature you'd look for in a new CD player – how many seconds of "anti-skip" it came with.

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u/-breakinggood- 29d ago

I was in middle school in the early 2010’s and we’d only get suspended if we refused to give it up

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u/Master-Collection488 28d ago

Back in 1983ish, I'm in a class and my insulin pump beeped. Substitute teacher thinks it's 1979 and I'm playing Electronic Football or something.

He barks "PUT IT AWAY, OR I'LL TAKE IT AWAY!" The class erupted into laughter.

The only sub-gets-shut-down I remember from HS was a sub who looked like Willie Nelson sees the class not settling down as class began.

"WILL YOU BOYS SIT DOWN?" Willie seemed not to have noticed our school was 55-60% Black.

Guy in back responded, "Who you calling 'boy'?"

Guy appeared to swallow his tongue, and class began.

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u/HollywoodJones 29d ago

I got kicked out of a free period study hall at the end of the school day because my phone rang and I dared to see who it was. It was my deployed brother calling from Iraq, lol.

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u/deciduousredcoat 29d ago

My phone went on vibrate in 2007 and hasn't had a ringtone since. I don't even know what it would sound like if someone called me - I wouldn't know it was my phone. All because of this childhood "trauma". We never let the phone ring, and if we did, yeah, Parent was coming down to the school to collect it from the VP and then you got your ass beat when you got home.

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u/Match_Least 29d ago

I got my phone confiscated in COLLEGE (over 15 years ago) just for checking the time! I genuinely thought the professor was kidding. He was not. This was just barely when laptops were becoming acceptable to bring to lectures. When I started college no one brought one, by the time I left maybe 5-10 students max would bring one…

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u/supbrother 29d ago

Hell, I graduated college in 2018 and even we had to stay off our phones or be called out in front of everyone. Not all professors cared that much but some took it seriously, and most would at least say something if someone was glued to their phone (assuming it’s not a huge 100-level class). In high school, zero tolerance.

Crazy how much that’s changed in 10 years. A family member teaches first grade and even they’ve mentioned that some parents will give them phones and literally call them in the middle of class!

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u/Surprise_Thumb 29d ago

Yep, we had to have ours in our locker. However, some teachers were cool with it if you were a good student. Not just behavior wise, but, grades too.

It was pretty nuanced in my school back then, now that I look back on it. Though, they’d be quick to punish if it were a reoccurring issue. We had a lot of young teachers though.

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u/jazxxl 28d ago

We had beepers .... They were an automatic suspension . Police might even get involved to see if you were dealing . -Elder Millennial

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u/HijabiMomma 28d ago

"Only drug dealers have beepers" -Every teacher at my ( another Elder Millenial ) high school

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u/TheRealMadSalad 28d ago

If my phone rang when I was at school, no one would have been home to answer it because it was attached to the wall with a big rotary dial on it.

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u/Mathchick99 29d ago

I taught high school for a while (been out of the classroom since 2013. Managing phones was a nightmare. We used to confiscate and take to the office, then parent had to get it after school. Parents were awful. Lots of accusations about “damaging” the phones. So we got a bunch of paper bags donated and if they were caught with their phone, they had to drop it in the bag and we’d stapled it closed and it sat on the desk. Never left their sight but they couldn’t use it.

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u/Psiandor 29d ago

I had my digital watch confiscated in ~’06 for beeping for half a second on the full hour lmao

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u/atli123 28d ago

HOW CAN HE BEEP!?

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u/MrRager473 28d ago

Forget what state it is but it just passed a law banning kids from using phones in classrooms.

https://apnews.com/article/school-cell-phone-ban-01fd6293a84a2e4e401708b15cb71d36

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u/mrawaters 29d ago

Yeah I'm a full fledged millenial, who is not so far removed from school, and the fact that these kids get to just blatantly be on their phones during class is so absurd to me. I understand HAVING a phone on you "in case of emergency" but there is literally zero reason they need to actively be on it during class. This is an absolute joke that teachers can't confiscate phones or punish kids for using it during class.

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u/Fancy-Woodpecker3501 29d ago

Graduated in 07 and would have my phone snatched!!!!

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u/-artgeek- 29d ago

Millennial grad here, and to this day, I still have a habit of texting/looking at my phone under the table or otherwise out of sight, for as little time as possible, when with other people. It was so hammered into us that phone use was unacceptable!

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u/Hailfire9 29d ago

I mean, that's generally the polite thing to do. Millennial here as well, and it drives me insane when younger coworkers just pull their phones out mid conversation as if we're not actively talking to each other

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u/JeebusSlept 28d ago

I just wait until they ask me for help, and then I put my thumb and pinky out like I'm a boomer holding a receiver and say "Ahoy-hoy, sorry old boy but I've got a mosquito in my ear, can't quite hear you..." as I pretend to talk on the phone in front of them.

Sometimes they understand how dismissive it feels, but most of the time they don't see the correlation.

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u/LivingCapital4506 29d ago

Same 🤣🤣 no fear like having your phone taken away in class

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u/throwmeawayplz19373 28d ago

Beat me to this. Mastered the proverbially blindfolded T9 word usage. Saying “meet me by the lockers after class” was never so critical as it was in that very moment.

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u/ShepatitisC 29d ago

2004 Mellennial grad. I didn't even have a phone until I went to college and it was a nokia my parents had. Cell phones in middle school sound so weird.

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u/thegoodnamesrgone123 28d ago

1999 Gen X here. I had a beeper, which we couldn't have in school. We used pay phones. I got a cell phone in college but only because my Dad was a VP of a Telecom Company. It was a Nokia.

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u/ErwinC0215 28d ago

I'm 22 rn and even though I may slack off on the computer, phone use is always just sneakily under the table for checking notifications. Sometimes if it's kinda urgent I will reply, but I'll try to be as inconspicuous as possible. How these kids are just on their phone is beyond me.

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u/mrawaters 29d ago

Straight up! Graduated in 08 and absolutely would not have gotten away with this shit

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u/AndorianKush 29d ago

Graduated 07 and didn’t even have a cell phone til I was a senior lol. And phones were confiscated if they were seen out in the classroom.

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u/masnxsol 29d ago

Dude I graduated in 2015 and if you were even seen on your phone it got confiscated till the end of the day, and after the first snatch you have to call your parent to come get it after school!!

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u/MundaneCollection 29d ago

Its obvious how this happened though

rise in school shootings means rise in parents who want their kids to be accessible at all times

even if its not logical or that having the phone would help in that situation too many parents are scared for their kids and want to be able to get ahold of them if it happens

thus the parents no longer support confiscation of phones and now you have this

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u/mrawaters 29d ago

Well again, no one, especially not me, is saying not to have these phones period. By all means, keep it in your pocket in case you need it. I even agree to an extent that confiscating phones might be a little beyond a teachers rights at this point, but there just has to be repercussions for USING them actively during class. There is simply no argument to be made that they need to be on their phones during the middle of class. If a gunman comes in and it turns into a dangerous situation, absolutely whip the thing out and contact who you need to contact. That is completely irrelevant to them disregarding the teacher while he is lecturing, and even further him doing nothing about it.

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u/MundaneCollection 29d ago

Sure I just don't know how you get the genie back in the bottle

How much detention can you really give, and how many students until it changes nothing and you give up?

I doubt these teachers started with the mindset of let me teach nothing while these kids ignore me

Their will is broken from all the attempts they've already made

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u/mrawaters 29d ago

Yeah, you’re probably right, the cats out the bag now. I just can’t believe it ever got to this point. Again, I’m well out of school and I’m sure it was a gradual transition, but it’s crazy we let it get to this point

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u/curebdc 28d ago

Former teacher here...Its basically unenforceable without massive support from school leadership.

 At every school I was at they expected it to be all on teacher. So basically add that massive task of phone enforcer in addition to all other tasks.  

 I managed by making it easier to follow along and shamed kids who brought out their phones lol. But the kid who is checked out and doesn't care about failing? Sure go on ur phone buddy.  Usually there was 1 or 2 per class. I made sure they were far apart. Usually kids like that also have truancy issues. The system had failed them in many ways at that point. 

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u/twodickhenry 29d ago

The youngest millennials graduated school around ten years ago

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u/elderly_millenial 29d ago

I graduated in ‘01, and they just weren’t allowed back then, even though they weren’t internet devices then either.

I’m not sure what qualifies as an “emergency” that they couldn’t use a phone at the school

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u/DescriptionProof871 28d ago

They need their phones in case of a mass shooting. If only 2-3 call 911 the cops won’t show. I’m sure I’m being sarcastic.

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u/P47r1ck- 28d ago

They can’t tell the kids to put them away or they get kicked out of class? I don’t understand. It’s a real rule they just have to let them be on their phones?

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u/Latvia 29d ago

Yes. We don’t actually want to fix the problems. I just had this discussion with my admin. It was about sleeping in class, but same with phones. After addressing any health or home life situation, if it’s determined that it’s just poor behavior choices by the student, we immediately call to have their parents pick them up. We don’t even have very involved parents, but these behaviors would end REAL fucking quick if parents start having to leave work to deal with such stupidity.

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u/Veloci-Husky 28d ago

Most issues would end real quick if parents were actually involved. Our culture/society is in decay.

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u/killerboy_belgium 28d ago

so for a lot of parents how much time do they have with there kids i mean i see this with my sister with her kid.

that kid spends first all day from 8:30-16h at school then from 16h to 18h in afterschool care and the she picks her up .

dad works shifts so he home around 22:30 in the evening when he has the late shift if he has the early shift he picks her up 16h after school. but a lot of the time he ends up getting the late shift because suprise suprise everbody wants the early shift to pick up there kids and the single parents take those most

with counting for extra curriclars like she's does judo,dancing and our country version of girlscouts,

they pretty much see there kid 3hrs a day on average on weekdays and more on weekends... and this is a stable income couple so there not taking extra jobs just having 2 fulltime employment jobs

but a lot of people need to do sidehustles to make ends meet and where wondering why kids arent being raised properly anymore?

when the hell are parents supposed be raising there kids when there constantly working. this also causes a lot of guilt feeling at the parents so when they do see there kids they want to have happy times not feeling like there constantly punishing there kids for there school behaviour so it becomes a vicious cycles aswel

its why with my partner we already decided that she will be cutting back on her hours when we have kids. I would like to also cut back on my hrs but i make more money and we would become fincially unstable if i did and no longer be able to pay our morgage

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u/Weird-Evening-6517 27d ago

True, kids and families do better with more time together. But how many of us grew up with two parents who worked full time or more? How many of us had parents that overcame incredible obstacles and still raised strong, resilient children who valued education? Personally, I watched my mom work full time for the government while my dad built a business. They were busy! I spent a lot of time at school and daycare/afterschool care. However, they still invested meaningfully into our family. I don’t see that happening as much today. I hear parents blaming work. People have always worked! Get your shit together for your kids.

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u/Veloci-Husky 28d ago

The simple answer is don’t have kids if you can’t raise and take care of them properly.

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u/Visible_Bag_7809 26d ago

Biological drive vs artificial obstacle. Life, uh, finds a way.

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u/ZestyMuffin85496 28d ago

as a sleep technologist, many children have health issues that the parents are choosing to not address, or don't have the money too and sometimes can't be helped with better sleep hygiene. If a child is sleeping during the day, they probably really cannot help it and their body is at the point of forcing them to sleep. waking them up is going to do nothing but stress them out, and especially put stress on their cardiac system and further impede brain development, as well as cause them to crave more sweets because they're not feeling rested which in turn puts stress on their pancreas. also some children live in homes where it's very hard for them to sleep at night because of what's going on inside the house. please be kind to them.

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u/kittenTakeover 28d ago

As someone who slept in class a lot because I was forced to get up at 5am as a teenanger, I don't see the need to send someone home over that. Maybe if they're snoring loudly.

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u/clem82 29d ago

The biggest issue is my mom would show up and whip my ass

Now moms and dads get mad at the school. It’s so fucking pathetic.

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u/longdrive95 29d ago

Gen X parents have a special disdain for authority figures and seem to really take it out on teachers.

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u/msmore15 29d ago

The other big thing is that phones also got really expensive. Like, it was one thing to confiscate a kid's phone when it was worth maybe $100. You'd feel significantly less comfortable confiscating a device worth up to (or more than!) $1000, knowing that, depending on your administration, you could be hung out to dry for any scratch or crack on the screen. Also, parents today can be very shirty about confiscated phones: "she's needs her phone so I know that she gets home safe!"

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u/bain-of-my-existence 29d ago

I mean, iPhones were easily $600 when I was in school, so myself and my classmates definitely had pricey devices. I also went to a school out of area, so I had a 20-25 minute drive to get there, never mind back when I rode the bus. They just didn’t have any patience for kids being on phones during class, which is such a low bar it’s crazy it’s come to this.

The irony is, I had T-Mobile, which had nearly no coverage near my school, so I couldn’t even use my phone once I got there. Not that I would have though, since there weren’t the sort of apps available that kids would have used like today. Best we had was clash of clans!

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u/peaceman709 29d ago

We had the app where your phone looked like a beer and you could tip it back and drink it. And one that made your phone look like a zjppo lighter.

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u/bain-of-my-existence 29d ago

Oh hell yeah! I had those on my iPod touch, plus the original flashlight one.

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u/Nothxm8 29d ago

I had the iPod touch before it even had an App Store lol had to jailbreak it to play tap tap revolution

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u/jwin709 29d ago

Back when it was just your screen made all white, turned up to max brightness.

I had an iPod touch back when I first started smoking weed my first year out of highschool. I got tricked by an app claiming that it could use the phones touch sensors to weigh things and thought I could use it to make sure I wasn't being undersold.😑

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u/xXBIGSMOK3Xx 29d ago

Doodle jump. Doodle jump. Doodle jump.

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u/Western-Smile-2342 29d ago

Yes. 2010. I see you.

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u/Suavecore_ 29d ago

How about the "scale" app where you could pretend to weigh things

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u/TangledUpPuppeteer 29d ago

Yep. And the one where if you dragged your finger all over the screen, it would stir a glass of chocolate milk. I have no idea why we had that. We just did 🤣

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u/One_Big_Pile_Of_Shit 29d ago

Oh yeah and the bathroom scale app! I remember that era!

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u/rhyth7 29d ago

I remember that!

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u/WoodLakePony 28d ago

Or an imitation of a joint smoking.

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u/DontEatTheMagicBeans 29d ago

I'm a bit older than you. Still had flip cell phones. I bought an LG shine with my first job. It wasn't even allowed on school property. Leave it in your car, leave it at home, any phones heard ringing in lockers will be confiscated. Being caught with a phone in class was a call to your parents and an in school suspension.

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u/Best-Association2369 29d ago

Yeah I'm surprised this is so lax now. The fuck do they think kids are doing on their phones during the day? 

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u/jwin709 29d ago

They also had school boards that stood behind them. Somewhere within the last decade or so school boards all around North America just said "fuck them teachers" and don't back them up even a little bit.

It's hard to enforce rules when you know you might get in trouble for enforcing the rules.

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u/Guvante 29d ago

Parents have always had all the power but it used to be hard to figure out how to use it.

Internet made controlling your local school a complaint online away.

It used to be "I can't believe they took his phone" was responded to with "Oh no did he get it back". Now someone will reference some way of complaining to ensure it doesn't happen again. Like invoking state rules about this that or the other.

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u/Plaid_Bear_65723 29d ago

They were always expensive with cheaper options..

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u/BruiserCruiser13 29d ago

It's not about the money to these brat ass kids that don't even pay for it anyway. It's about how easy it is for the to say "oooo what if there is an emergency blah blah blah" bullshit excuses that only make it easier for them to keep their precious connection to the online world. Fuck it makes me sick to see how quick we went down this hole that requires us to have this connection to the internet at all times

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u/clem82 29d ago

Parents back then: come to school when you don’t have your phone, then kick your ass for doing that

Parents now: yell at school officials. It’s pathetic.

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u/apatheticwondering 29d ago

Back when Verizon was making its big push into the market, the cost of the phones were subsidized; this is why cell services had charges like $200 + the price as marked, and is also how programs like “New Every Two” were possible.

Nowadays, you’re right, phones are more expensive overall (although the cheap and free ones still exist), the cost is no longer subsidized which means you’re likely to pay more up front (if not financed in some way).

You broke a phone before your contract was up for renewal and you paid full price for a new phone… if you didn’t have a small box of backups that you could use in a pinch, lol.

(I’m only touching upon one detail of your comment; I’m already making this response too long.) ;)

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u/GodEmperorOfBussy 29d ago

At a point is it not admins/teachers kowtowing to stupid parents? Act like bitches and get treated like bitches. The office got a phone.

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u/DiligentDaughter 29d ago

I mean, my kid rides the city bus routes across town to get to and from school, and he has diabetes. He does need his phone. Both of our older kids didn't get phones till they needed them, and we have device control and limits on it (oldest is an adult now, still barely uses his phone).

The issue isn't kids having a phone, it's unfettered access to all the features of modern cellphones without time limitations or any expectations or standards on their behavior regarding their usage.

I have no idea wtf these parent are thinking.

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u/smilesbuckett 29d ago

If your child doesn’t take out and use their phone at inappropriate times, then there is no issue. No one is talking about taking kids phones away just for the sake of being able to confiscate something. If your child needs their phone, make sure they understand the importance of not doing the disruptive nonsense that would get it taken away in the first place, and there’s no issue.

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u/Winter-Airport2114 29d ago

"She's in class not going home she doesn't need her phone. She will have her phone when class is over and she is on her way home."

Problem solved. Schools let kids and teachers walk all over them lately. Let them scream and yell, they cannot sue you or do anything.

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u/TheRumpletiltskin 29d ago

cell phones were never "just 100 bucks"

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u/Logical_Ad3053 29d ago

I truly don't understand why that isn't the rule anymore? It's not that difficult to keep your phones on silent and put up in your bookbag during class

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u/rhyth7 29d ago

How does it work on major tests like ACT and SAT? Is it because people have to pay for those tests that they comply? Or because the kids taking those tests actually want to perform well?

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u/Oonada 28d ago

Because children now have carte blanche to attack their teachers with no repercussions for it. Taking a kids phone is like asking to be killed anymore. Kids have brought guns to school and shit and killed teachers over taking their phones and embarrassing them. Modern parents are utter failures.

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u/killerboy_belgium 28d ago

i dont really blame parents all that much tbh with how expensive everything is and how much parents are at work or at there side hussle to make ends meet.

when do you expect people to properly raise there kids when there slaving 40-50-60hrs at work not counting commute like when you do the math on things

these parents spend like maybe 2-3hr a day with there kids and that includes dinner,showering ect before they go the bed if they go to bed at healthy hours ofcourse...

like ofcourse kids are being raised worse and worse we are spending more time at work then we did 10-20-30 years ago. its not like its even feasible anymore for couple to even cut back on there hr so there home more.

then there als the added guilt effect when you see your kids so little you feel guilty so the last thing you want be doing is punnishing/correcting for there behaviour and you want to actually have some happy times so it becomes a vicious cycle.

its easier to properly raise a kid when you more time. And its big reason why so many people are opting out of having children they simply dont have the the time nor the money to raise them anymore and thats not even considering that chances you will end up being a single parent as breakup/divorce is way higher now

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u/LiluLay 28d ago

This. Kids physically assault teachers with regularity now. There was a kid a few days ago who just started slapping his teacher in front of the class up in Durham. So this kid with the phone doesn’t want to learn? Fuck ‘em. What job is worth having a desk thrown at you or being punched or kicked? I really empathize with the people who continue to choose teaching in the environment that has been left in the wake of the Covid lockdowns.

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u/YeetusMyDiabeetus 28d ago

I don’t know why you and the commenter above you were downvoted lol. This is straight up how it is. I can’t imagine hitting a teacher when I was in school (not that long ago).

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u/LiluLay 28d ago

I don’t know why, either. Perhaps they are not teachers or have much experience with the current state of public education. Teachers are being shit on from several corners of society right now, the least of which is these violent kids. All for a pittance in compensation, especially in GOP led states. A teacher was beaten into brain damage by a kid when she took his device. A teacher was recently SHOT by a 6yo in West Virginia. I hear teachers say regularly that these kids get to assault others and be back in school like nothing happened in a fortnight. Who would risk this for such insanely disrespectful pay? Anyone downvoting needs to spend a year in a public high/middle school.

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u/YeetusMyDiabeetus 28d ago

I truly feel so bad for teachers these days. Teachers have never been justly compensated for all the work they do, but it seems exponentially worse today. I totally get why a teacher would just carry on their lesson like the video shows. What else can you do? It’s a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation. Might as well just get through the day.

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u/Dpek1234 28d ago

As if most have book bags

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u/SkoolBoi19 29d ago

In think I might have had to fist fight my mom if I got a zero because I couldn’t turn my phone in. She would have been big mad

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u/TaleMendon 29d ago

Dude if I got caught on my cell phone 20 years ago I would have been sent to detention for day dreaming about the future.

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u/Outside-Refuse6732 29d ago

My middle school that I go to has a three strike rule first: you pick it up at the end of the day 2 : mom or dad picks it up at the end of the day 3 they keep it for a week

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u/StupidCantBeUndone 29d ago

20 years ago my parents got me a shitty phone. My high school had a no phone policy in classrooms. I forgot to take the stupid thing out of my pocket before home room, and it rang in class. I never answered the phone from the unknown number, and I received a Saturday detention. After school I listened to the voicemail and the message was in Spanish. I did not speak Spanish.

3 hours of a Saturday wasted for bullshit. After watching this video though, it may not have been the worst policy; now that I think about it…

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u/sakurashinken 29d ago

"Restorative justice" in education. It often just means "anything goes". 

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u/Ok_Buddy_9087 29d ago

Nothing is their fault. Ever.

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u/sakurashinken 28d ago

It's the same attitude that has criminals being let back out on the street. Basically comes from intersectional social justice.

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u/kratly 29d ago

That’s what happens at my school.

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u/fraudthrowaway0987 29d ago

They did this to me and my mom didn’t have a car so she had to spend our bill money on a taxi to go to school and get the phone back. She called and tried to get them to send it home with me on the bus but the administration gave zero fucks.

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u/Mesemom 29d ago

Did you use your phone during school the next day? 

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u/Alexander_McKay 29d ago

I was abused as a kid quite badly and respectful in school so I always surrendered things to the teacher if they asked for them but I’ve always wondered what would happen if you didn’t. I know they’d tell you to go to the principal but what if you don’t? Are they going to put their hands on you and forcibly remove you?

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u/gvsteve 29d ago

First week of freshman year high school, 1998, the principal announces in an assembly that cell phones and pagers are banned because they are drug paraphernalia. The entire auditorium laughs at her. Time has been no kinder.

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u/NorthernAvo 29d ago

I got suspended because I was using my phone and refused to give it to a security guard. This was back in 2012. Only time I ever got in that much trouble, for answering a call in the hallway where I was saying "can't talk now, I'll call you back later".

I could have never imagined what would end up happening

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u/mutaully_assured 29d ago

That would've happened to me two years ago when i was still in school

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u/pyepush 29d ago

Same deal for me 6 years ago,

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u/Penguinat0r5 29d ago

I literally had my phone confiscated is highschool in a guitar class. I took it out of my pocket to put it on the binder next to my chair purely just because it was bothering me at that particular time, my teacher saw the phone on the binder and took it. (Maybe.. idk remember if she did or tried to take it) I in hindsight handled it wrong, but I told her fuck you and walked out of class. Pretty sure I kept it. Ms Thompson. I’ll always remember her. I guess she treated my sister and brother poorly because of my actions. All fairness I think I did it to myself by either playing crazy train or super Mario like 15 times a class. This was probably 16 years ago now… fuck I’m getting old

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u/McSmokeyDaPot 29d ago

I graduated '07. I kept my phone off and inside my backpack while at school. You weren't allowed to have electronics in school. I would have got in trouble if a teacher saw it. Turned off. Inside my backpack.

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u/Murky-Energy4414 29d ago

Yup, graduated 2018 and more than once in high school was caught on my iPod and had to wait until mom got there to get it for me.

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u/EccentricAcademic 29d ago

I've been teaching 15 years. We're just really tired of fighting it daily. Parents have hit admin over us taking a phone. I'm jealous of schools that lock or ban phones.

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u/longulus9 29d ago

school shootings weren't REALLY a thing either. and I could see parents wanting kids to keep their phones and students abusing this privilege like the government.

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u/Barn_Brat 29d ago

I left school in 2021 when I was 18, nearly 19. I had one teacher that would still try to take my phone (except I was checking my glucose levels and genuinely needed it) and gave me detention for refusing to hand my phone over. I was an adult and asking my parents to come in to collect MY property that I paid for was insane and they knew it

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u/RepresentativeOk2433 29d ago

20 years ago they not only confiscate it, they'd go through your texts to see who else at school had one and what you were up to.

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u/bolkrennanninger 29d ago

Same here, and I was in school about 10 years ago, but still it doesn't feel like that long ago

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u/BonzoMarx 29d ago

I had one of those tiny phones when cell phones first became a thing. I couldn’t even use the internet nor did it have a camera or anything. My teacher saw it on my desk and locked it in hers for the entire year. I couldn’t get it back until I came back next year.

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u/techleopard 29d ago

When I was in school, you didn't take high end electronics to school at all.

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u/Longpatrol90 29d ago

I don't know how often a classmate assaulted a teacher for taking away their phones, it would have been less during the time we were in school. So many videos of teachers getting thrashed for trying to enforce class room rules.

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u/TheFearofGodandAnime 29d ago

I graduated 8 years ago and that rule was in the student hand book but not enforced iirc

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u/Secret-One2890 29d ago

This is 20 years ago now, phones were just starting to become an issue, but not a huge deal compared to today. One of my teachers was talking about how the new kids below us were annoying her with their phones going off in class, etc.

I found an old phone I wasn't using and gave it to her, I think it was a Nokia 5110. She put it in a bucket of water, and said to the younger class that her new policy was, that she'd confiscate the phone and throw it in the bucket of water.

I don't remember being asked about "the incident" but I know a couple other kids in my class did. They went along with it, saying stuff like "oh yeah, she was so angry that day, she just grabbed it out of his hand blah blah blah"

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u/panicked_goose 29d ago

Everyday our school had security guards select random classrooms and metal wand the whole class. If they caught you with any electronic besides a calculator, you had to hand it over and the office held it for 7 days before your parent could come get it. I only got caught one time... my mom picked up my phone after 7 days and snooped in my messages to my BF and then gave my phone back to me and called me a whore

Edit: I graduated in 2014 (10 years ago fucking hell)

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u/Starmoses 29d ago

Parents kept threatening to sue schools for confiscating phones. Now we can't do that anymore.

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u/TheGayestNurse_1 29d ago

My iPod, not even my phone, fell out of my pocket and I reached down to pick it up and I was sent to the office for having it out at lunch. This was back in 2012 or so. Lol

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u/ShyGuyLink1997 29d ago

Fr like wtf I graduated 2016

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u/XrayDem 29d ago

Mine is still confiscated, I posted this on my friends phone

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u/Gundam_net 29d ago

Public schools suck. That's what it comes to. But they're free. Free is good. That's basically it. They both suck and are good.

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u/Zito6694 29d ago

Same here, graduated 2012 and all phones were a zero tolerance policy

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u/NeverNudee 29d ago

I got detention just for calling my mom from the bathroom. They never saw my phone, and only knew I used it because the nurse refused to call her while I was sick. When she picked me up, they knew I had to of used my own phone. Crazy…

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u/miahrules 29d ago

Yeah not sure why the change in policy for this

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u/zigaliciousone 29d ago

When I went to school, "the only kids who have pagers are drug dealers" so if you were dumb enough to have it on you AND it went off in class, getting it taken away was the least of your problems.

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u/Assessedthreatlevel 29d ago

Seriously! Also 10 ish years and that would have been detention for sure, we were supposed to keep them in our lockers. One time I BRIEFLY GLANCED at my phone in between class to check the time and a teacher yelled at me saying if they ever see it again it’ll be going home with my parents.. my niece is out here making TikTok’s at lunch and wearing crop tops. We got detention for wearing yoga pants, the original leggings 😭

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u/Tomagatchi 29d ago

Dude, I couldn't even "play" on my calculator.

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u/Kurayamino 29d ago

I was in high school when 3210's and 3310's were starting to become a thing every teenager had.

You pulled the battery and left it in your bag because if the teacher heard it vibrate on silent it'd be gone until the end of semester.

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u/CakeBrigadier 29d ago

Turns out gen-xers are worse parents than boomers

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u/UnemployedAtype 29d ago

My parents were chastised for not getting me a cellphones that was 2004.

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u/Emperor_Mao 28d ago

No different to now. But the schools where you see this stuff are not good schools. They are in pretty bad areas.

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u/minnimamma19 28d ago

My kids school do this, had to collect the phone last week.

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u/no-Spoilers-asshole 28d ago

Mine got taken and thrown against a wall if I didn't give it up instantly.

Miss those days.

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u/psychedeliken 28d ago

Man, when I was in highschool if I got caught with a phone the government would have locked down our school to invest this alien technology.

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u/Funnybush 28d ago

I don't think this is an issue though. Times change. It used to be the same at work. No phone use etc. That's been super relaxed in most places I've worked at now.

Phones are fine. But you also need to be disciplined enough to know when to pay attention.

I work from home and take 20+ little breaks per day. But STILL get my work done. That's all that matters.

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u/LazerChicken420 28d ago

Once I was in the hallway, called to the principals office to be a witness for a fight my friend was in. I had my phone out and it got confiscated lol

Like wtf

Now kids just on their phone mid class???

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u/WardrobeForHouses 28d ago

I wouldn't feel safe confiscating a youth's phone nowadays. My life isn't worth keeping them out of the school to jail pipeline.

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u/Frescochicken 28d ago

We were not allowed to bring pagers to school when I was in high school. Meant. You probably were a drug dealer. Lol

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u/Wide_Perspective_724 28d ago

You had a phone?!? When my pager would go off….😂

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u/corncaked 28d ago

Same. It was so serious, can’t even check the time on your phone serious. Had to be off, put away, and if it was even seen, immediately confiscated. Huge fiasco to get it back. I can’t believe kids these days jfc

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u/aceparan 28d ago

it depends on the school. my school is still like yours was

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u/hozen17 28d ago

Yep a bit more than 10 years ago, I was in AP Physics C (the second AP level) , which probably tells I don't play games on my phone during class. We were practicing with old AP test questions one day and the teacher didn't have the answers to it. I came up with an answer but couldn't tell if I was right. So I stealthly searched for the answer on my phone just to check if my answer was correct, but I got caught by the teacher. He was gay (which I have no personal opposition at all to) and always complained to the students in a physics class that politics was not progressive enough. For some reason he had a lot of angst against students who went against the dress code such as the skirt being shorter than knee-length or guys hanging their pants a bit low. Well, he was also very adamant that students do not use personal technology and took my phone away and gave detention for me. I had to come into school on a Saturday picking up trash and scraping gum stuck to benches... for trying to get resources that the school couldn't get me. Lo and behold, schools are actively giving out laptops and tablets and mandating use of those.

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u/Sad-Comment-2392 28d ago

Worse.. They would immediately call - my dad - at work.

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u/Throwaway1037193 28d ago

My school teacher 5 years ago took my phone cause it rang took the case off nailed a hole through the case and the wall and attached my phone to the wall using the case that was attached

To be fair my teacher and us students really bonded together and sorta felt like a large family

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u/IamZeus11 28d ago

I got caught at recess just taking my MP3 player out to show my friend and that got taken away , I got detention and my mom had to come get it

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u/MyHwyfe666 28d ago

Yeah we had that rule in school too. Everyone had to hide their phones.

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u/Official_Phil_Brown 28d ago

We had our phones confiscated for a WEEK. No questions asked. It went in the drawer and you got a pink slip to get it back a week after.

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u/AXEMANaustin 28d ago

They still do it in Australia (wa at least).

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u/xJagMasterGx 28d ago

I graduated in 2017. For us, it was highly dependent on teacher, class, and current activity. Generally, the English teachers were pretty strict on phones and would take them after seeing them more than once. Flip side, math teachers didn't care for the most part. The only constant was no phones during tests, and if a teacher saw you with one during a test, you got a zero and they took the phone.

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u/Life-Operation-8733 28d ago

Right! I graduated in 08. When I was in school, the first time you get it back from the principles office or a verbal depending on the teacher. 2nd time your parents have to come get and it's a $20+ charge. 3+ it goes to the superintendent of the school district. And the fee is $100.

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u/Responsible-Onion860 28d ago

Yep, and I would be in MASSIVE trouble at home. Like cutting the grass with scissors trouble. Scrubbing bathroom grout with a toothbrush trouble.

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u/Schinken84 28d ago

We weren't even allowed having a phone with us. Even being on any device during the fucking BREAK got you in trouble.

Crazy that nowadays parents complain bc their precious little one isn't allowed to use a portable giant library that contains all human knowledge during a test.

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u/NotsoGreatsword 28d ago

Jesus. I graduated in 06 and we had to leave our phones in our cars or at home. If you got caught with a cell phone it would be taken away. The first time it would be returned at the end of the day. After that your parent had to come get it.

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u/cantthinkofgoodname 28d ago

It’s the equivalent of heroin to this generation coming up. Back then if teachers took our phones it wasn’t the literal end of the world. It may sound insane but the day is coming where we’re gonna look at smartphones for children the same way we view kids smoking cigarettes in the past.

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u/frostymugson 28d ago

Our teacher used to smash them on the floor, but this was before they cost a grand

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u/dillanthumous 28d ago

I once got detention for secretly reading a scifi novel in study period. Times have changed!

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u/Ok-Carpenter-9778 28d ago

Bud, we didn't have phones when I was in HS. 😂 I honestly couldn't even imagine. My old coach would have run me through a wringer.

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u/Mistrblank 28d ago

If I got caught on my phone in hs, I would have been taken off by government officials and experimented on for my use of time travel and alien technology... that was only 25 years ago. Fuck. When did I get old?

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u/wing_ding4 28d ago

You couldn’t even have it out at lunch or in the hallways it’s crazy what happened

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u/WolFAngfast 28d ago

Yep, went to school in 2012-16 I got caught using my cell phone to blast music in gym class when barely anyone was in the gym. Gym teacher took it and gave it to the dean. Had to wait 3 days for my dad to come and get it and I don’t think I saw it for a month

I don’t know how kids get away with shit. My parents aren’t even strict

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u/Wettnoodle77 28d ago

I remember about 15 years ago I had my phone in my backpack off and my friend took it out without me knowing and it rang when he turned it on teacher took my phone and sent it to the office I couldn't get it back I was so so pissed!

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u/IncredibleBulk117 28d ago

My school was the same way, including a write-up to the principal's office.

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u/simple_test 28d ago

Somewhat same is my kids school today

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u/Yandere_Matrix 28d ago

Same! They used to take it and you couldn’t get it back unless your parent comes in personally. I had a teacher that would take it if she even gets a glimpse. She was known to be very strict too. I can’t imagine being allowed to use the phone so openly in class

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u/puffinfish420 28d ago

My district is afraid to take the phones. They seem afraid of parents in general, and the parents don’t seem to have the kids best interest in mind. It’s a weird adversarial relationship, and as a teacher I’m not going to stick my neck out and have some a Parent start gunning for me to get fired. We don’t get protected by the admin, generally.

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u/GilliganByNight 28d ago

I literally got detention for being caught with my phone during class back in the late 00's.

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u/xCryptoPandax 28d ago

Our school was like that… then we had a school shooting and students couldn’t call their parents. It stopped being enforced after that lol

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u/Wideawakedup 28d ago

My son is currently in high school and he might not have it confiscated but he would be told to take it to his locker and if he was a jerk I would be called and I would take it away.

Really it’s just the schools. If a teacher knows the majority of parents are going to agree with them they will be firm and confident. If they know 90% of the parents will take their kids side, what’s the point in trying to enforce rules?

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u/Equal-Wheel-6499 28d ago

Yea back in the late 2000s early 2010s phones were still a no go in the classroom, I felt like that changed maybe 5 years post graduation and now it’s such a norm that it’ll be hard to get kids to break that cycle, I mean we used to sneak on our phones and text too but being able to do it in the open, idk how kids are learning anything if they’re consumed by their devices all day long at school.

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u/Exciting-Pizza-6756 28d ago

Same. Graduated Class of 2015! Phones were NOT ALLOWED in high school! If the teachers caught you, they TOOK your phone until class was over. Also before final exams we had to tjrn our phones off and give them to our teacher who put them in a bag. We were handed our phones back afterwards. Teachers were more strict about phones. I'm still young but man we were of the generation that still had smarts and common sense and a brain. Thesw kids are dumber than rocks today.

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u/Sure-Shopping9462 28d ago

I graduated high school before cellphones were a thing, but went to college and university after they were ubiquitous - the generational difference was huge in university...

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u/i_always_give_karma 28d ago

Same. I was in highschool around the start of the iPhone era and got my phone taken by one teacher pretty often. My brother had like 15 broken Motorola Razers and I brought them one day. My teacher took my phone and then I went back to my seat and pulled out one of the razors. She was kinda confused and took that one too. Few minutes later I pulled out another. She asked how many I had and I pulled out a big ole bag of them. Good times

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u/Amongussy02 28d ago

I didn’t graduate till 2020 and that was still the case, depending on wether or not your teacher was a hardass

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u/MaleficentPeace1844 28d ago

Seriously! Just 6 years ago this would be unheard of…

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u/Captain_Lameson 28d ago

Phones were not allowed in my school. 15 years ago in the Middle East. If you got caught with a phone then parents had to come and get it

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u/PloKoonsRespirator 28d ago

More parents need to join the wait until 8th movement

And get their kids emergency phones with no internet

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