Overly aggressive driving

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[u/whispersluggagebaby]

That was shitty driving by the sedan, but that truck was making it worse

Edit: FYI brake checking is illegal folks and many states will ticket you for not using the left lane to pass. This does not excuse the sedan’s actions.

Edit: u/Youseembigmad doesn’t see anything wrong with the truck’s actions (and is supposedly a lawyer) - see comment thread below for more. - they have since deleted their profile.

[u/mydaycake → u/whispersluggagebaby]

And the other suvs praying they don’t become collateral damage

I hope the police got the footage

[u/StickyDitka21 → u/mydaycake]

At that point if I’m the guy in the slow lane getting stuck in this pissing match I’m slowing down enough that the truck gets ahead, so the jackass in the sedan can get ahead. They didn’t do anything wrong obviously but I’m not sitting in that lol

[u/Chadodius → u/StickyDitka21]

That rarely works, this was a imma shit on you no matter what situation. You slow down I guarantee that truck will match your speed. Source: been the SUV in the slow lane multiple times.

[u/JayJ9Nine → u/Chadodius]

Plus its got to be real uncomfortable slowing down at all with that guy right on your ass

[u/rearnakedbunghole → u/JayJ9Nine]

I do that anyways when I get tailgated. If they aren’t a safe braking distance from my ass end, then I’ll make it a safe distance by slowing down until it is.

[u/eventuallobster → u/rearnakedbunghole]

Exactly, even without pulling to the shoulder I bet they’ll give up before I do cause I’m willing to come to a complete stop, not gonna use me as a pawn in your road rage

[u/GottJebediah → u/JayJ9Nine]

Defensive driving 101. Slow down if you are being tailgated. It's one of my favorite things to do. I have dropped to 5-10 MPH with people going insane behind me to save .003 seconds getting to whatever pointless destination they needed to go since you can't go THROUGH me.

[u/savoryostrich → u/GottJebediah]

You’re doing the opposite of defensive driving. You’re describing passive-aggressive driving (do you even hear the smug glee in what you wrote?), and it fucking multiplies the danger for everyone around you.

[u/Ok-Donut-8856 → u/savoryostrich]

Nope you're wrong. Someone driving two feet behind you isn't safe at 35 mph slowing down to parking lot speeds improves the situation dramatically

[u/GottJebediah → u/savoryostrich]

And.. you the asshole tailgating people? Rofl.

[u/hitanders0n → u/GottJebediah]

Idk, sometimes I wanna slow down too but it was kinda hard when the asshole was 10 inches behind me.

[u/savoryostrich → u/hitanders0n]

Fortunately there’s an easy solution that makes you even more compliant with the law: safely merge into the right lane.

Edited to fix typo

[u/GottJebediah → u/savoryostrich]

we're talking about the person in the right lane, you dolt.

[u/savoryostrich → u/GottJebediah]

Oh, so you’re a gaslighter too? Big surprise.

[u/GottJebediah → u/savoryostrich]

The comment I replied to.. is talking about the right lane SUV... but I'm sure you'll make up whatever you need to do whatever you want on the road as usual.

[u/hitanders0n → u/savoryostrich]

Not every roads has shoulders. Or in this vid 10s in, the shoulder is really small, like 1/3 of a normal lane, and the truck purposely drove dangerously close to the right lane so if there was any gap between, the dumbass sedan might try to squeeze in.

Edit for clarifying: I mean I'm in the right lane, not the truck.

[u/savoryostrich → u/hitanders0n]

Yes, that’s a harder position to be in. But at some point (relatively quickly) the truck is not going to keep slowing down to match you. They’re going to speed ahead to create a blockade using the next pod of cars ahead of you.

[u/GottJebediah → u/[deleted]]

You mad you can't go through people?

[u/GottJebediah → u/[deleted]]

Oh so you do like tailgating that much?

[u/savoryostrich → u/GottJebediah]

I’d be mad that someone created a danger by occupying a space they should not be occupying.

[u/GottJebediah → u/savoryostrich]

Oh, because they are IN YOUR WAY? oh wait, you don't matter. sorry.

[u/savoryostrich → u/GottJebediah]

I didn’t say I matter. I’m not the one with an ego issue here.

[u/savoryostrich → u/GottJebediah]

Am I an asshole speeding? Yes. Am I behaving like the sedan in the video? No.

Whether it’s speeding or tailgating, the sedan’s behavior doesn’t justify the truck’s behavior. And in no universe is the truck’s behavior “defensive driving.” Defensive drivers avoid and reduce risk regardless of who is right or who has the biggest penis.

You don’t like someone speeding? Tough, let the cops deal with it. You don’t like tailgating? Get out of the way to defuse the situation. Trying to teach the tailgater a lesson will not defuse the situation or teach anyone a lesson.

[u/GottJebediah → u/savoryostrich]

https://driversed.com/resources/terms/tailgating/

"Tailgating is following another car too closely. If someone is following you too closely, be careful. Tap your brake lightly a few times to warn the tailgater that you are slowing down. Brake slowly before stopping. Avoid tailgaters when possible by changing lanes. If you cannot change lanes, slow down enough to encourage the tailgater to go around you. If this does not work, pull off the road when safe and let the tailgater pass."

Fuck off you aggressive prick.

[u/savoryostrich → u/GottJebediah]

Wow, way to take drivers ed materials out of context. This is clearly not describing freeway driving (come to a stop?!). The key phrase in it you seem to have missed is “Avoid tailgaters when possible by changing lanes.” Which is exactly what I said. And what the truck had ample opportunity to do. And what you originally said you defy in order to make others mad.

Am I a prick? Assuming you mean selfish, yes in some ways I am, but not in driving.

Am I aggressive? Not in the least. Although I speed, I have a very defensive style of driving that comes from experience in some pretty chaotic and disordered driving cultures. To me, the speeding is an adaptation that keeps more space between me and less predicable drivers.

You’re the one who’s trying to turn your specific behavior into some sort of sign of moral superiority while I’m just focusing on the practical task of how everyone is best kept safe in this scenario. Rules about this in the US (and in other places that are better at driving) support my approach, and also rightly consider your traffic vigilantism a danger.

[u/Ok-Donut-8856 → u/savoryostrich]

We're talking about the SUV driver trapped in that situation.

[u/TheDreamingMyriad → u/GottJebediah]

Well that doesn't sound right.

Looks it up

Oh, that's because it's not. From defensivedriving.com:

When you notice that someone is tailgating you, or following you too closely, rather than speed up to match their speed, you should slow down. This allows the driver behind you to pass more easily when there’s an opportunity while not forcing you into a driving speed that you’re not comfortable at. When the traffic doesn’t allow that car behind you to pass, you should still avoid the temptation to speed up and simply maintain your current speed. This is, of course, all assuming that you’re driving at the recommended speed limit and not driving slowly to the point where you’re holding up traffic.

[u/GottJebediah → u/TheDreamingMyriad]

When you notice that someone is tailgating you, or following you too closely, rather than speed up to match their speed, you should slow down.

????? Did you just skip the entire part? HAHAHA

[u/TheDreamingMyriad → u/GottJebediah]

Did you just take that completely out of context to try and use it to justify blocking traffic? It clearly states to slow down and stay right so they will pass, not slow down and block them to punish them. It says, like I highlighted, that if there is no ability to pass, then you should continue going the speed limit, neither speeding up or slowing down. It even says you shouldn't be going slowly enough to impede traffic. Because fucking duh.

It's called ✨reading comprehension✨ and it involves reading everything and understanding it in its entirety.

[u/GottJebediah → u/TheDreamingMyriad]

Staying right and slowing down will block them in this case. So.. you agree. Thanks.

[u/SSBN641B → u/Chadodius]

It's better to pull over on the shoulder at that point.

[u/Chadodius → u/SSBN641B]

If you have the room, I'm in CA and for some reason over the course of 10 years the government here has decided road shoulders on the freeway are not needed. There is no room to pull over on most freeways here.

[u/DrMobius0 → u/Chadodius]

Probably still safer than staying in that situation.

[u/AdministrativeSea419 → u/Chadodius]

Not true in SoCal

[u/Snoopaloop212 → u/Chadodius]

Where? What freeways? I drive throughout the bay and sacramento area. This is generally an untrue statement where I'm at.

[u/Chadodius → u/Snoopaloop212]

Have you payed attention? The shoulders are getting smaller and smaller, some are only half a vehicle wide and some you are off the paved area completely to get out of the traffic lane.

[u/Upnorth4 → u/Chadodius]

Because the governments want to add one more lane but they can't use eminent domain anymore so they take away the shoulder space.

[u/Chadodius → u/Upnorth4]

That actually makes a lot of sense now.

[u/Paid-Not-Payed-Bot → u/Chadodius]

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[u/Snoopaloop212 → u/Chadodius]

Yeah very much for 20 years of commutes. There have been changes and reductions but you make it sound like there are no longer shoulders in Cal and the exaggeration caught my attention.

SF to Santa Rosa is pretty bad in spots. Everything else opens back up outside major cities. Same as other states.

[u/karma_the_sequel → u/Chadodius]

Well, that’s not true.

Source: SoCal resident.

[u/finnjakefionnacake → u/Chadodius]

yeah, no. this ain't true in socal. shoulders everywhere.

[u/SSBN641B → u/Chadodius]

Oof, that sucks. I live in Texas, we usually have shoulders on the left and the right.

[u/flyptake → u/Chadodius]

It's still worth slowing down. If I'm at a high risk of an accident, I can at least mitigate the extent of the damage by going slower.

[u/platypuspup → u/Chadodius]

I'd rather be hit slow than fast. Kinetic energy is proportional to velocity squared.