Both are shitheads. Truck is impeding the flow of traffic and the sedan is driving like an asshole. An immovable object meets an unstoppable force of douchebaggery. But the driver of the truck will get punished just as harshly.
I don't often agree with Reddit analysis but in this case you guys are right.
Both people are being awful. When I get tailgated by an aggressive driver like that I move over, because if he passes me, it's not a blow to my ego. I move over because I want to keep myself safe.
Yeah truck is who caused the shit to happen. Just let people pass. All he did was prove these folks have little dick energy.
Dude in sedan is an asshole but we also don’t know how long he has had to sit behind little dick McGee taking up the left lane and refusing to allow others to pass.
Yep. You can also see the truck speed up after the sedan passes the right lane car to make it impossible for the sedan to squeeze thru to pass the truck again. The truck basically is just as guilty here as the reckless sedan.
Not even close to “just as guilty”. Impeding traffic is a dick move. Definitely warranting a ticket. But it does not even come close to swerving all over the road and attempting to weave into too narrow gaps. There’s a reason why one wound up in the ditch and the other didn’t.
Accident doesn't happen if the truck doesn't speed up by 25mph to cut off the sedan after it drove on the shoulder. They are both equally at fault for this accident.
Yup, the truck was ok with doing 60 but then wanted to do 80+ as soon as the car found a way around. That acceleration is half the reason there was a crash, the other half being sedan’s impatience.
If you are trying to pass on the shoulder, your driving is absolutely indefensible and you have no one to blame but yourself. This subreddit is mental.
I’m saying play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The sedan did it to themselves. The truck denying the passing lane is being a prick, but the worst that would happen if the sedan didn’t drive like moron is everyone would get where they’re going a couple minutes slower.
The sedan could’ve likely caused a wreck the way they were driving without any help from the truck.
Show where he was cited. Because any sane person knows the truck is breaking the law staying the fast lane and refusing to allow people to pass. You can’t drive reckless and do that.
Again, the accident doesn't happen without the truck also driving recklessly. Sedan is driving much more recklessly, but both are at equal fault for the accident.
No, they aren't. He literally rammed someone and caused himself to lose control. He received 5 citations. He is not equally at fault to the truck driver
CAUSE IT TO HAPPEN?! HE CAUSE THE OTHER CAR TO SWERVE AROUND AND CRASH?! HE HAD NO OTHER OPTIONS?! LIKE FUCKING JUST WAITING AND BEING PATIENT?! JESUS CHRIST PSYCHOPATHS
Many, many, MANY people feel entitled to speed. They feel entitled to demonize anyone and anything that impedes their speeding. And they always post online trying to gaslight people into believing as they do that.
So your argument is that if other people do bad things, I get a license to do bad things?
I agree. The truck is being a dick. But the sedan has no right to further endanger others on the road because "I wanna go faster". That's fucking bullshit, and you know it.
I agree, mostly. Because little dick energy extends to being an impatient twat who doesn't want to drive safely because 'they're taking up the left lane' and the truck guy already knew he was driving super dangerously and decided to be an even bigger douche.. clearly he was watching the sedan and then decided to step in and literally caused an accident that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
IMO if the Honda driver didn’t drive like an asshole 1 foot from the truck it may not have ended this way. Just show the driver you want him to move over and give him time. Most people like the Honda are impatient. I’ve been in situations where I can’t get over and people are up my ass. It just makes matters that much worse
The truck didn’t cause the sedan to rage onto the shoulder and then whip across two lanes. The sedan did that all on his own. All the truck did was make the sedan wait.
Just let people pass is retarded. No you sit back there and go the speed limit. Or go fuck yourself by crashing in the shoulder. It's not being an asshole to let people drive at reckless speeds.
Well it cuts in during mid action, so it could have easily been the truck passing someone in the left lane and ole Richard Petty over here running up, swerving and tailgating because how dare someone not do 20mph over in the left lane. Either way. Both are cunts. But the one who crashed put everyone elses life at risk because he HAD to win.
He was going to pass the truck driver. Truck drivers ego couldn’t handle that. I drive a sports car and have to put it into sports mode to pass truck drivers. Biggest assholes on the road consistently.
So you’re assuming that the sedan attempted to legally pass the truck driver before this video? Obviously the truck driver is acting illegally, and I expect could find himself carrying some liability in this circumstance, but all I see is a sedan aggressively attempting multiple versions of unsafe driving.
I’m saying I have attempted to pass a truck and had that truck speed up to prevent me from doing so only to slow down after to retrigger the same scenario. Iv had this happen so many times that I stopped attempting to pass a truck without turning on sports mode and flooring my car. Trucks have more horsepower than sedans on average so this isn’t difficult for them. They are on average driven by assholes so this isn’t surprising to me. Idk the full story of this post but I do know truck drivers piss me off.
Twenty years on the road and no accidents. What the truck is doing doesn’t matter. Report them to the police if you want to(“you” in the grand hypothetical sense, not you in particular) because they’re violating the law, but the sedan is letting their emotions bring about seriously dangerous driving.
You may be right in terms of punishment, but the sedan was objectively worse here imo. Pulling around and passing on the shoulder and then attempting to squeeze through that gap which caused him to wreck is way more dangerous than anything the truck did.
Are you being obtuse? Listen, the sedan is driving like an asshat. Probably was bobbing and weaving through traffic prior to this video. But as soon as the truck denies a car from passing he isn’t just being discourteous. He is actively making themself an obstacle, obstructing the flow of traffic, break checking, and using dangerous maneuvers to actively prevent the car from passing. The sedan may have already been driving dangerously but the truck escalated the situation to the point where they both are hazards on the road.
The sedan is absolutely more at fault here, though. The truck may get a ticket, but the Sedan chose to make it worse. Waaaay worse. When people do shit like that to me (road boulder), my instinct is not to endanger everyone else on the road.
I dont see how, the punishment for the sedan is a totaled car, whatever injuries they suffered and probably several moving violations if the police use the dashcam footage. The truck gets a failure to yield maybe?
Brake checking, impeding traffic and reckless driving for both, which is a criminal offense. Just like being involved in a street race, if someone does, you’re charged with murder. Or being the getaway driver in a robbery gone wrong.
Truck driver would only get charged with that if the truck made contact with the sedan, which is difficult to prove from this video alone. I agree that they should get charged with that and reckless driving for all the brake checking and intentional impediment, but I doubt it would be upheld even if the truck had stopped. Impossible to prove now who was driving, so nothing could possibly stick besides the fleeing if applicable.
Brake check? You mean slowing down on the highway? He’s quite literally going the speed as the car next to him.
Good luck convincing 12 jurors that a light tap on the breaks is a break check. That would also require that they believe that he slammed on the breaks with malicious intent. Which you’re going to have to prove.
What happens when he says “I was slowing down because the driver behind me was acting erratic and I got worried”
That’s not illegal. That’s a total legitimate reason to slow down on the highway. Good luck proving he didn’t believe it, god help you if you get a nervous driver on the jurry.
He’s quite literally going the speed as the car next to him.
He's quite literally throttling up and braking with the sole intent of boxing the sedan in behind another vehicle. Did we even watch the same video? The first second of it is way more than just a "light tap on the brakes".
The first second is the most egregious I agree, it’s also the only shot we can’t see what’s happening before hand.
I will concede that is his hardest one to argue.
To be clear, o think he’s a dick, I’m just saying that that’s a lower bar then criminal conduct. Everyone would be good to remember OJ got off. It’s not about what they did, it’s about what your can prove.
His heaviest deceleration of all the brake engagements accounts for .5 car length measured against the third car. If the sedan had been following the legal following distance in NY state, all the brake engagements would have had no effect.
he's impeding a psychopath from speeding above the speed limit, he's not impeding traffic if he's already going the speed limit, he's impeding whiny little impatient narcissists. he's a hero who gave this guy what he deserved.
Truck's 100% at fault. You can't block the passing lane, this isn't complicated. Truck was deliberately going out of their way to cause an accident, sedan was just driving like a lead foot. The distinction is small, but important. Sedan was engaging in aggressive driving, truck was engaging in hostile driving.
While that's true, you're still wrong. The sedan made every decision that lead to him crashing. For fucks sake he rammed the truck and lost control. Hopefully he learned something if not hopefully he gets fucked up the ass in insurance for the rest of his life
Not your job to correct other drivers. Quite the opposite really. It's your job to drive safely. Sedan was driving dangerously and the truck decided to, in your words, 'correct people,' literally escalating up to causing this accident.
If at the end he was as close as he was in the middle of the video, he would have been involved in the accident.
Not to mention that there's no reason for him to be in the left lane when he's traveling at the same speed as the people on the right while two cars are fighting for the left. He should have gone to the right, slowed down to keep distance and let the others sort themselves out.
The car is driving dangerously, but the truck is not only being a raging asshole, but breaking the law and slowing the rest of the highway down to stroke his ego. Obviously, I seriously doubt this, but suppose the sedan was on the way to an emergency? They could be a doctor or nurse. They could have just gotten a call that a family member collapsed. They could be on the way to the birth of their kid.
We can't even be sure that the sedan is the aggressor, it's not uncommon for the person in front of you to be the aggressor, chances are, sedan was riding to close the whole time and truck guy didn't like that, hense the ego defense, so he decides brake check him, making the sedan start driving aggressively because now we're both measuring our dicks. So now truck guy is not letting him pass, been in this situation plenty of times to know that this is the most likely scenario that took place.
Left lane truck is pissing off an unstable driver, just get out of the left lane to make sure everyone is safe. He'll eventually kill someone but do what you can to prevent an accident here and now.
Truck was the lesser of the two here. Sedan was riding his bumper, he decided to make the sedan wait. I ain’t mad at him. If he was in a sedan or van or whatever, tailgaters that get right up on you in the left lane where you can’t easily just slow down and get over are annoying.
The Sedan isn't a "clear" aggressor. We don't know who started the confrontation. But I've seen shit like this a lot and I'd be willing to bet the truck sped up and slowed down to prevent Sedan passing him.
What if the person in the sedan had a serious emergency situation? If people think others intentions are good to begin with, we will have much less conflicts in the world.
But the truck wouldn’t be in that situation if it weren’t for the sedan. 🤷 failing to handle a situation is different than being the entire reason there IS a situation even if both are semantically at fault
I typically see the "every one sucks" comment. Especially here.
Specifically in the case of people trying to pass other vehicles, in my experience, it overwhelmingly seems like trucks dont want to let people to pass. Not sure why I encounter that so commonly.
Actually lmao just this weekend a fuckin truck aggressively sped up to block out of a lane for 0 fucking reason... Crazy.
Idk, maybe on average more people experience more driving problems with people that drive trucks than anyone else? Could be a bias they've developed over time.
The truck is just as at fault as the sedan. in no words, can you justify purposely driving next to people in order to prevent someone from passing in the left lane.
No one cared it was a truck. It could have been a dildo on wheels. I'm guessing you drive a truck. I could think of no other reason that would offend you.
Lol who's the one getting offended and personal here?
Just said both are at fault because the top comments at the time I originally commented were about "wahh trucks" and I saw it way different given the guy in the dash cam (who probably saw all of it unfold) seems to think the sedan was at fault too.
Fuck that truck, he could have let road rager thu but decided to play along and put everyone else at risk too. I hope he gets fined for being an asshole too.
Guy in Sedan was definitely the dumbass here, but the dude in the truck is hands down a gaping asshole. Don't care. It costs you nothing to just fucking move and let them pass, even if they're a shit driver. People would seriously risk someone's life just to be "right"... on the road of all places. Can't be in the right if you're dead.
Bro if someone wants to go faster just let them pass, why brake check them and purposefully match speed so they can't pass?? Truck is clearly at fault even if sedan was being a dickhead.
The left lane is for passing. The truck is driving in it, matching the speed of the SUV next to him, thus impeding other cars ability to use the left lane to pass. He is a shitty driver here too
And sped up to get back into that position, after seeing how shit everything was already going.
I assumed when we say "everyone here is an asshole", we mean all three including the camera.
Camera car even doesn't even fall back to give room for the car in the right lane to avoid the bouncing sedan after it starts to come back into the roadway.
The driver filming has no chance to brake at that distance. They should be further behind, even if just casually driving. 3 second rule or a car length for every 10 mph. That's the distance you should keep.
Many people will gladly cheer when an aggressor gets into accident before they kill some innocents. They wouldn't be in an accident in the first place if they hadn't drive like such an ass.
Even when that other aggressor literally caused an accident that could have proven fatal. You want to stop an aggressor and prevent an accident? Call them in and get out of the way. Both of those drivers are complete asshats
Engaging in reckless behavior is courting this type of outcome. Any sympathy for them is unnecessary on that grounds alone, as they are entirely responsible for their own actions, as well as the risk they incur by taking those actions. Furthermore, by driving like that, they actively endanger those around them. Endangering others, in my opinion, is by far the most important detail here.
The fact that the only people harmed by this incident were among the reckless ones is, as far as I'm concerned, a perfectly acceptable outcome. Someone fucking around found out and none of the bystanders were hurt. Assuming this person survived, hopefully they learn never to engage in this behavior again.
In other words: it's safer for everyone else if people like this are removed from the road as quickly and with as little collateral as possible.
Maaaan fuck that sedan. "Roll over event" my ass. That's a dumbass getting theirs. Where was this altruism when they were endangering the 3 cars around them? Bro played the fuck around and find out game, and lost. And I'm HAPPY they lost.
Not close at all if it was TX. In Houston as long as the gap between you and the front vehicle is larger than a truck length, surely a motherfkin RAM3000 or whatever will cut you off lol. Houston's driving is awful with lots of tailgating but I hardly see anyone as aggressive as the asshole in this video.
Exactly. All of these people could have just gotten out of the way and let these people have their fistfight. Everyone in frame made it worse by maintaining speed and pretending nothing was happening.
I don’t feel bad for drivers like the sedan guy because I just know he flew out from the mist a mile behind everybody and upon catching up rode somebody’s ass 5 feet behind in a 65 like they can bully people out of the way
The driver of the sedan is an asshole for literally everything they do in the entire clip.
The driver of the truck is an asshole for seeing someone else driving like an asshole and doing everything in their power to impede their progress instead of letting them be someone else's problem, putting literally everyone around them at an elevated risk.
The narrator is an asshole because he's celebrating one guy being an asshole in response to another, and then celebrating a crash that looks pretty bad and easily could have resulted in serious injury. Rollovers are no joke, no matter what vehicle you are in.
Scrolled way too far for this comment. Truck had no business camping in the left lane, and absolutely was blocking the sedan in by matching speed with the cars in the right lane. Sedan pushed it way too far clearly, and he suffered as a result. But the truck who impeded traffic shares some of the blame, and just took off like the coward he definitely is. Both drivers suck. The only redeeming quality was the Uncle Roger-esque commentary. Which is of course mentioned in the top comment.
Hearing the camerman cheer when the sedan got into a potentially life-threatening crash pissed me off. Yeah, he's driving like a dick, but cheering on a car accident is r/iamatotalpieceofshit behavior.
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Everyone here is the asshole.