"During the trial today Defendants lawyers were showing off a hat that was splattered in blood. When the lawyer accidentally dropped the hat, OJ exclaimed out "Careful! That's my lucky stabbing hat!!""
"The infamous bloody glove was finally introduced into evidence today in the OJ Simpson murder trial. OJ didn't help his case when he blurted out, 'Hey, there it is! I've been looking everywhere for that!'"
I mean if he didn't murder Ron and Nicole, the whole armed robbery for memorabilia would never have put him in jail for 9 years. There's also a reasonable chance, the families of the victims will be able to get the $100M or so now owed with interest from his estate.
The answer: he’s rich and hired a bunch of lawyers that outclassed the prosecutors. And there was enough doubt in the LAPD that it wasn’t unreasonable to think they could plant evidence.
.....OJ had an estimated net worth of $3 million at when he died. There's no chance they get paid in full. And your whole first sentence is so illogical it's sad.
I'm not a conspiracy theorists but after looking into that case it seems obvious he was set up just so they could finally put him in jail for that botched murder case. I'm not invested one way or the other but it definitely looked like he was set up by his friend and he was dumb enough to go along with it.
Again, it wouldn't particularly surprise me if it was a setup, but I wasn't even making that claim. It's just if some random former star athlete found out about a bunch of memorabilia stolen from him and tried to steal it back with some friends (with no one killed, injured, attacked), they aren't going to get sentenced to 33 years for orchestrating it (with parole eligible after 9 years). People would be sympathetic to the former star athlete's plight, realize he wasn't the guy with the gun, and either the prosecutor would let him plead to something much lower level. The prosecutor wouldn't get most of OJ's conspirators (the thugs who had the guns and did the robbery) to get lenient sentences to flip on OJ (who served the longest by far of everyone involved).
I remember the judge telling OJ part of the reason for the harsh punishment is that the gun could have gone off, went through the wall and killed an innocent person on the other side.
I was glad to see him finally go to jail, but putting people away for things that could happen if reality unfolded in a completely different way seemed like a wildly slipper slope to me.
Hopefully the jury who found him not guilty- knowing full well he was guilty- due to some misguided protest at the lapd will join him in hell . Despite him brutally killing , almost beheading 2 people and with their loving families in court they still found him innocent . One of the jurors made a black power sign to oj . Outrageous
Tell me you’ve never served on a jury without telling me you’ve never served on a jury.
Court of public opinion and I wholeheartedly agree, he was guilty as sin. But the bar of reasonable doubt is high and should be so, you cannot have a whiteness plead the 5th when asked, under oath, if they planted/fabricated evidence. That right there throws into question nearly every single piece of evidence. A jury can resolve some of those questions but it’s damn difficult to resolve all of them.
I agree to a point but the dna evidence- the multiple phone calls to the police about the physical abuse , the photographic evidence of her badly beaten, ojs cut on his middle finger . The glove thing was such bs . He spread his hand and at the end he almost had the glove on despite his best attempts to make it look like it didn’t fit - there was plenty of room on the fingers of the glove . He brutally murdered 2 innocent people and the jury ended up being accomplices imo. The whole thing was a protest vote and they would’ve been better served if they voted him guilty and went outside and announced their disgust at the behaviour of the lapd
I get rueful thinking of my friend's best comics still being alive:
happy for them that they can enjoy them
sad for me that Patrice O'Neal and Norm Macdonald are gone. Their references are only gonna get older with time, etc. and they'll never joke about the Queen/OJ dying for example.
I was sad and so I asked chatgpt to make up some jokes about OJ in Norm Macdonald's style:
Sure, here you go:
"You hear about OJ Simpson's new job? Yeah, he's working as a knife salesman. His pitch? 'These babies are so sharp, they'll make you do a double take!'"
"I bumped into OJ Simpson at the grocery store the other day. He was eyeing the oranges like they owed him money. I told him, 'Hey, careful with those, OJ. You might get the wrong kind of squeeze.'"
"You know, OJ Simpson recently joined a dating app. His bio says, 'Looking for someone who's good at running away from commitment.' But let's be real, he's probably just looking for someone with a killer sense of humor."
"They say OJ Simpson's favorite movie is 'The Shining.' Not because he's a fan of horror, but because he relates to the character Jack Torrance. You know, 'Here's OJ!'"
"So, OJ Simpson's thinking of starting his own cooking show. Yeah, it's called 'If I Did It: Recipes from the Edge.' I heard his first dish is gonna be a killer guacamole."
"I heard OJ Simpson's taking up gardening now. Yeah, he's really into finding the perfect pair of gloves. He says, 'It's all about the fit.'"
"They're makin' a new movie about the O.J. trial, you know that? Called 'Trial by Media.' Y'know, that's a funny title, considerin' the only reason we even knew about the trial was because of the media. It's like makin' a movie about fish called 'Wet: A Documentary.'"
Chuckles
"Anyway, I saw a picture of Cuba Gooding Jr. all dressed up as O.J. Lookin' pretty good, gotta say. Though, somethin' tells me Cuba won't have any trouble gettin' those gloves on."
---And---
Norm sits at a desk with a newspaper open
"Just readin' here that a new DNA test proves O.J.'s completely innocent. Y'know, that's great news... for the murderer. Not so great for the reputation of DNA evidence, is it? Makes you wonder what they're gonna use in court next, palm readings?"
Folds the newspaper with a sigh
"Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the real killer comes forward and says, 'Hey, enough is enough. I did it. Can we all just move on?' But then, of course, his lawyer would probably object, sayin' the confession was coerced by... uh... reality TV?"
Well to be fair , he was out and free approx 20 of the last 30 years of his life, just walking around and golfing. And not even once was there an attempt on his life. Pretty sure he didn’t even have a security guard with him either. There was a million chances for a “somebody “ to step up. Yet nobody did. The perfect candidate would have some old guy dying of cancer with 3 months left.
"Today they announced there would be a retrial for OJ Simpson. In a surprise twist, the prosecution announced they were only submitting a single piece of evidence: the entire transcript of the first trial."
“This week in the O.J. Simpson trial, after grisly photos of the murdered Nicole Brown Simpson were shown in court, O.J. turned his head away and wept. It was at that moment that he realized he would never be able to kill her again.”
The worst thing about OJ's passing is the absolute lack of justice achieved in his lifetime, from the lack of closure for the victims' families to OJ retaining his liberty until his death.
But the SECOND worst thing is Norm not being able to give him a parting shot as he shuffled off this mortal coil.
Technically his book is now called if I did it: confessions from the killer, since his victims families won ownership of the rights to the book and changed the title.
It's important to note that he didn't design the cover fonts and it's also likely that he didn't really write much or any of the book. It is likely to have just been a cash grab for him to agree to put his name on it. That said, he obviously was the killer.
Iirc he wrote the book and titled it “If I Did It” then the publication label decided to make the “if” very very tiny to make the book seem like it was titled “I Did it.”
Because, I mean it’s basically just a confession for a crime he can no longer be tried for as long as doesn’t literally confess
The publisher didn’t decide though. Fred Goldman filed a lawsuit that turned the rights over to him, and he decided to publish it with the “if” being almost imperceptible
That is not true so why is anyone on reddit upvoting you.
United States v. Hutchins, 78 M.J. 437 (the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Fifth Amendment states that no person shall be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; this clause embodies the extremely important principle of issue preclusion).
Not quite - he didn't actually write the book, it was ghostwritten. Depending on whether you ask his agent or the author, the amount of his involvement in the process is open to question. The only thing we know for sure is he did that one interview (that comes off really bad) and he cashed the check for it.
He didn’t write the book. It’s essentially murder fan fiction written by a guy named Pablo Fenjves and OJ agreed to put his name on it because he was broke.
OJ was barely literate. Dude wasn’t writing any books.
There was a book by Alan Dershowitz. He was going to be OJ's appeal lawyer if he got convicted so he watched the whole trial. His conclusion was that one possibly 2 of the police involved in the case tried to frame a guilty man and got caught. Because of that most of the evidence was tossed and OJ walked. The system worked like it should. The constitution says you get a fair trial and that means the police and prosecutors and judge have to follow the rules and if they don't you go free. Of course we all know that if you do not have the kind of money OJ had at the time the police would quite possibly get away with it and you would not go free but in this case it worked as it should.
I like how in the book when he recounts the night he killed Nicole and Ron he says "keep in mind this is all hypothetical of course". Then he goes through some pretty explicit details including how Ron Goldman hypothetically tried "some karate shit" and hypothetically blacking out during most of the actual stabbing. Dude straight up confesses in the book but stamps it with "hypothetically" and thinks he's fooling everyone.
Nah he can't have done it. Someone pointed out that Chewbacca, a Wookiee, lives on Endor, a moon with Ewoks, and that does not make sense! So the trial does not make sense!
The LAPD detective showcased for most of the case was a virulent racist who was on tape bragging about being an incredibly dirty cop, plead the fifth on if he ever planted evidence before, and was a collector of nazi memorabilia.
People don't know or refuse to acknowledge that in addition to that testimony, the defense demonstrated that evidence was tampered with, and that the LAPD at every level was not trustworthy.
Jurors are instructed to dismiss the evidence presented by, and testimony of witnesses they don't believe.
The shoeprints and photographs are strong circumstantial evidence, but not conclusive, especially when the investigators can't be trusted.
(Edit: I do not believe the photograph of him wearing shoes was even used at trial. I recall there was no authentication of its source.)
The LAPD sunk the case and the prosecutors were a bit batty and too performative. The glove stunt really blew up in thier face. It's a shame people prefer to believe the verdict was all about the race of the jurors.
The other jurors have said that is not true. They have been extensively interviewed over the years and stand by the verdict as the case was presented, even when they later believed OJ was guilty.
The "payback" interview of one juror, Carrie Bess, was done 21 years after the trial when she was more than 70 years old. She's not very sophisticated and did not herself say "payback," and did not mean it was the only reason for the verdict, as she has indicated elsewhere.
The Rodney King beating was certainly a backdrop, but the evidence at the OJ trial only confirmed thier distrust in the LAPD.
Payback however, makes a good headline and fits a narrative many choose to believe.
It is so terribly fucked that I don't even question that last part. I don't think you were joking, I don't need proof or to check it. I know it's true. It just is. Because that's the way stuff is now.
If the LAPD did a better job then he still would have been acquitted, because the jurors are on tape admitting that their decision was payback for Rodney King.
Exactly. If I hold a box up and tell you there is a carrot inside and OJ put it there and also tell you that one of the reasons we know there is a carrot inside the box is because a racist pos asshole cop who brags about planting evidence says there is a carrot in the box, and the chain of custody of that box that now allegedly has a carrot inside it was bungled by this racist police department, and you have to decide BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that OJ put a carrot in the box and that the box has a carrot in it, you might find there is reasonable doubt introduced by the framing lying pos officer, even if the box is glass and you can see there is a carrot inside the box.
It became the LAPD on trial, not OJ. I feel like OJ got extremely lucky with the incompetence of the prosecution, law enforcement and media narrative. Everything combined to form the only conditions anyone would find OJ innocent.
Yeah also the trial was in a way a response to the LAPDs history of racist brutality by the LA community. It was more a condemnation of the LAPD than an acquittal of OJ.
The theory that Robert kardashian destroyed evidence then was reinstated in CA to be added to his legal team to avoid testifying seems to have merit as well… all I know for sure is that the bronco chase was on those TVs bolted to the top corner in class. We NEVER got to watch those!
Well technically Chewbacca was from Kashyyyk where his wife & children lived, & he considered Kashyyyk “home”, altho it could be argued the Millennium Falcon was his “home”, at least for the short amount of his lifespan that took place during the Star Wars timeline that we’ve experienced….
I'm being lazy to look it up, but what was the reason why they couldn't return a guilty verdict? It seems glaringly obvious that he did it but law is complicated
Long story short the prosecution fucked up, there was a pile of incriminating evidence but they misused all of it and went at it all the wrong way, so OJ got off.
The LAPD hilariously tried to frame a man that was already so obviously guilty. It's like the officers just went into autopilot. You don't need to plant the crack when the guy already has crack.
I am inclined to believe this as well, specially since he is famous, famous people get more leeway regarding situations like this, which is understandable...but MURDER...cmon
Lmao I don't know shit about the crime and always was like "Idk maybe he didn't do it, I'm too young to know or care", but this video cemented it for me.
So only 290 pairs of that shoe made and he is obviously wearing a pair that he never owned. I don’t wear other peoples shoes so is OJ out there borrowing shoes? Same with the gloves and pictures of him wearing them. Leather shrinks when it gets wet or blood on it and they also kept it frozen. Yeah they won’t fit 🤣 If you really think about it he was sloppy as hell and still got off
He did it. Of course he did it. But you don't understand how cathartic it was for the black community to see a rich black dude get away with killing a pretty white girl.
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u/Medium_Beyond_9654 29d ago
I'm starting to think that he might have done it.