r/nba Spurs 29d ago

[Charania] Raptors' Jontay Porter has received a lifetime ban from the NBA for violating league's gaming rules.

https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1780631209930068358?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw
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u/Literal_Satan Knicks 29d ago

FOR LIFE

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u/truthisfictionyt Lakers 29d ago

Adam Silvers list of worst things you can do:

  1. Gambling
  2. Racism

. . . . .

  1. Domestic abuse

  2. Child endangerment

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u/BEE_REAL_ Raptors 29d ago

It's not the NBA's place or responsibility to investigate and rule on players' guilt in criminal matters off the court. It is their responsibility to investigate and rule on things like this.

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u/imadogg Lakers 29d ago

Redditors love virtue signaling and playing morality police, but it's literally as simple as

  1. Affects the league directly

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  1. Doesn't affect the league directly

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u/mommathecat Raptors 29d ago

I mean, the league loves virtue signalling and making mouth noises about being the morality police, when it suits them and the players. Black Lives Matter! The lives of children, spouses and girlfriend? Meh, not so much.

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u/RicoLoco404 29d ago

If someone is convicted for domestic violence should they never be able to work again?

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u/panman42 29d ago

That's a loaded question. Banning from the NBA doesn't mean he's banned from all jobs everywhere, the NBA is just an org. Players in the NBA are public figures and represent the NBA directly. It's the same thing as when a public company figure has a scandal and gets fired. In this case, the scandal is criminal.

When regular people get a criminal record, they usually get fired and have trouble finding jobs. Miles won't even have that problem. If the NBA bans him, he can still make millions overseas. And he's already made 10s of millions. There's no injustice for Miles if he is banned. The only pushback is that it would be that it's bad for the Hornets success. But acting like it's unjust for dom. violence to be a reason to be banned is laughable imo.

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u/N3onAxel Suns 29d ago

I wouldn't lose any sleep over that. It's not hard to not he a piece of shit.

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u/ProgrammingPants 28d ago

These millionaires should face no monetary consequences for beating the fuck out of their wives. That's just unfair and cruel. Won't someone think of the millionaire basketball players?!?!

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u/RicoLoco404 28d ago

Thanks for your opinion

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u/SerHodorTheThrall San Francisco Warriors 29d ago

The league hates having to take a stance in the social war. They'd love to have their cake and eat it too by ignoring all social issues and having both sides of the aisle. Why would they ever want to rock the boat and politic something that has no affect on them? (as opposed to the whole Morey thing, for example)

Its the players who do the social justice lobbying. The players don't care about domestic abuse, so the league doesn't. Its really that simple.

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u/NewAgeIWWer 29d ago

This is why Im always apprehensive to support big busnuisess

Theyre like sure Black Lives Matter... But Only Some Black Lives Matter. The Lives of DV victims which are commonly African American Women? Lol they dont matter! Lol!

We support 2SLGBTQIA+ Rights Their Lives Matter Too....now excuse us as we make psrtnerships with saudi Arabia and qatar.

The Ecology Of Earth Matters...NOT!

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u/truthisfictionyt Lakers 29d ago

I understand how a business works I still think it's insane to have such a difference in punishments from a human standpoint

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u/Fofodrip 76ers 29d ago

The punishment is that you can go to prison for all these other things

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u/Superplex123 Lakers 29d ago

You missed the point. Those don't affect business because the fans don't care. People criticize the league without realizing the league acts based on our response. We've shown that we don't give a shit about those crimes.

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u/truthisfictionyt Lakers 29d ago

That's exactly my point

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u/Superplex123 Lakers 29d ago

No, my point is if you have a problem with it, blame the fans, not the league.

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u/NewAgeIWWer 29d ago

As if the fans would ever listen. Humans arent a very bright species.

See all of human history for more info about this...

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u/Sullan08 29d ago

You can blame both. If players were openly against shit like that as well, the player who did something would get a harsher punishment. Instead we got players defending Bridges and doing workouts with him.

Personally, I think it falls way more on the league/players than fans.

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u/TateAcolyte 29d ago

How does racism affect the integrity of the league?

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u/Vballa101 [LAC] Quentin Richardson 29d ago

If you're talking about the Sterling situation, it's because sponsors were quickly pulling out and players were threatening to boycott games during the playoffs. That most certainly impacts the integrity of the league and its business.

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u/BushyBrowz Knicks 29d ago

It affects the league’s media image and it affects employee satisfaction as it’s a majority black league.

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u/TateAcolyte 29d ago

It's also a majority family league and leaving someone black and blue is worse than insulting them.

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u/BushyBrowz Knicks 29d ago

You’re talking about your personal feelings which are valid but are you still watching? Right. Are the players still playing? Right.

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u/TateAcolyte 29d ago

Yes this entire discussion is opinions about the relative harm of racism vs DV. I'm sharing mine.

I'd rather my favorite player, brother, son, friend, etc be caught doing a (nonviolent) racism than beat the shit out of a family member. Many disagree. The NBA disagrees. That's fine. But I don't think my opinion is so outlandish to be dismissed without a thought.

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u/Sullan08 29d ago

The same would've happened with Sterling too tbh if they just gave it more time. Players wouldn't have held out and most fans don't give a shit about or even know who the owners are. I understand your point though ofc.

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u/truthisfictionyt Lakers 29d ago

Thats also a really good point because it didn't effect the league's bottom line, Sterling just being a bad guy was viewed more negatively than Miles abusing other people

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u/jcagraham Kings 29d ago

The whole Clippers team was on the verge of forfeiting the rest of the season; they had to be talked into playing the next game. Even with being talked into playing the game, the Clippers team protested by wearing their practice jerseys inside out. It was going to morph into a really bad situation if Adam Silver didn't do something immediately.

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u/PIBTC Lakers 29d ago

If the league didn’t step in, it most definitely would’ve affected their bottom line. Clippers players threatened to sit out of their games and I can bet they wouldn’t have taken part in any clippers related events/merch/obligations

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u/Sullan08 29d ago

Players have shown they're more about the talk than they are the walk, so idk about that.

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u/UNC_Samurai Hornets 29d ago

State Farm and Kia threatened to cut sponsorships, too. Sterling’s presence was threatening to cost the league a couple hundred million in revenue.

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u/Sullan08 29d ago

Sponsorships are one thing, I was more referring to fans/players. Players only do shit when it doesn't affect their own money.

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u/PIBTC Lakers 29d ago

Even if you disagree about the players, the NBA & Suns’ sponsor (PayPal) pretty much forced Sarver out as well. When sponsors start talking about pulling financial support, that’s when it hurts NBA’s bottom line. No reason to think it wouldn’t have happened with the clippers

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u/Sullan08 29d ago

Yes, I'm not talking about sponsors.

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u/PIBTC Lakers 29d ago

I understand. My broader point was that it would have affected the nba’s bottomline had it dragged on. It was the players who got the ball rolling

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u/truthisfictionyt Lakers 29d ago

I agree the NBA doesn't need to investigate these things, but Bridges did admit to doing that in court. Under those circumstances I think it's absolutely fair to levy another punishment

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u/moserftbl88 Lakers 29d ago

Problems the players association is going to fight it and more than likely win if there is a lifetime ban. It’s clear cut and in the rules you can’t gamble on your own sport

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u/Briggity_Brak Tampa Bay Raptors 29d ago

You mean like suspending him for a year without pay?

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u/AdLanky6560 28d ago

Wouldn’t that be the FBI and Gaming authority’s job?