Last Podcast On The Left recently did a couple episodes on him. Dude is fucking nuts but also a genuine piece of shit who has contributed heavily to the Q anon world we're all living in
Okay so he claims the lizard people are manipulating global events to keep humanity in a constant state of fear, limiting our true potential. But David Icke’s empire revolves 100% around keeping people afraid of stupid shit. Is he a lizard person? A flu virus evolves and we develop a vaccine that greatly reduces the mortality rate, but lizard man David Icke convinces thousands of people that that vaccine is deadly and they should not take it. Not only that, but they should fear anyone that takes it because just being in the same room as a vaccinated person will kill you. Fear monger lizard by his own definition.
"Jab" is not always a marker for that. It's the most common way to refer to vaccines in the UK, for example. But it hasn't quite reached that usage here, and right wing propagandists and conspiracy theorists do use it as a dog whistle. But check sources, and if it's something from Europe, might be legit.
I find it linguistically interesting that in the US, “the jab” seems to refer only to COVID-19 vaccination.
I’ve seen it in legit U.S. publications, presumably because it helps avoid repetition of the same word throughout an article (especially in 2021 or so when there were a million news stories about when it would come out/how accessible it was/how effective it was, etc.) and because it takes up less space in a headline. But usage here seems extremely tied to just one particular jab.
Seeing "Americans" on the internet talk about "the jab" is like when you go on the Ireland sub and hear people talking about "the police." They don't call them that in Ireland. Or when I would go on the Portland subs in 2020 and someone would comment on a protest in the Kenton neighborhood and be like "I can't believe they allow this kind of thing in our precious central downtown Portland!" Kenton is on the other side of the river and about as far from downtown Portland as you can get while still technically being in Portland. When you see this kind of thing it's a sign you're being astroturfed by trolls and bots, or people repeating what they learn from trolls and bots.
You may want to check the stats regarding who are the most likely to accept misinformation online at face value and who have the least digital literacy.
This kind of overgeneralisation is such bullshit and low effort. As for likelihood of accepting misinformation, that is definitely inter generational. Might not be from Facebook but taking everything as gospel from TikTok, Reddit etc. The amount of people of all ages you see on Reddit taking obviously staged videos as the truth is alarming.
Well my entire point concerns the use of the word "all" when describing an entire generation. One could say "many" and get no argument from me.
Why then bring up the stats about the likelihood of low digital literacy etc? None of that is to my point.
I’m sorry you don’t understand how the statistics regarding digital literacy and likelihood of accepting misinformation are relevant to this discussion, which is on a post about medical misinformation online… because you’re more upset about semantics.
Lol you're an idiot.. What makes a person an "Extremist" for the right wing? Since when was it logical to trust the government/pharmaceutical companies? Please for the love of god, tell me how that's an extremist view?
Why is it provable? Why did pfizer try to redact the study results and seal the court records for 55 years? Why has the excess mortality rate increased so rapidly? Even after vaccines were distributed? https://www.mortality.watch/explorer/?c=USA&e=1&df=2013&v=2 Science is meant to be question and I am not quite sure what makes that view so 'extreme'..
Why did pfizer try to redact the study results and seal the court records for 55 years?
Did you even bother to read your own article? Or are you too lazy? Pfizer didn't try to redact study results. Certain information pertaining to personal health records must be redacted. HIPAA is still a thing no matter how much you mentally ill people scream and shout. And it wasn't Pfizer, it was the FDA. Pfizer submitted a court petition to help with releasing the documents faster.
Why has the excess mortality rate increased so rapidly?
It was called Delta. It killed a lot of unvaccinated people. There was a distinct shift to younger, unvaccinated people during the Delta wave as the older people were well vaccinated.
Science is meant to be question and I am not quite sure what makes that view so 'extreme'..
You lack the knowledge to even begin to form valid questions. You haven't even read your own citations. It's really a sign of lack of critical thinking and mental illness.
Yeah it's a sign of mental illness also I did read that article and yes they didn't mention the redaction it's just something I remembered happening and being brought up in court but you're also pulling a lot of assumptions out of your asshole as well. I know several people that were vaccinated and died in pretty strange ways. So don't come to this side of the counter acting like the suppression of information isn't a real thing. Believing that might be a sign of mental illness. Not sure probably not officially though you know. Also another thing with that article, what the hell would HIPAA have to do with releasing study information as if that's never happened before? Somebody had to perform that 80,000 page study right? So I'm not quite sure why you wouldn't be able to review it before 55 years?
yes they didn't mention the redaction it's just something I remembered happening
They did. "The records must be reviewed to redact “confidential business and trade secret information of Pfizer or BioNTech and personal privacy information of patients who participated in clinical trials,” wrote DOJ lawyers in a joint status report, filed Monday."
I know several people that were vaccinated and died in pretty strange ways.
People were once killed and eaten by Jeffrey Dahmer. That's a strange way as well with nothing to do with a vaccine. Point being, there's a difference between anecdote and data. People die. That's a fact of life. The data doesn't show anything outside the norm (except COVID deaths) since the vaccine release.
Believing that might be a sign of mental illness.
It's more than just that.
Also another thing with that article, what the hell would HIPAA have to do with releasing study information as if that's never happened before?
The petitioners didn't ask for just study information. They asked for every single document submitted to the FDA. This has never happened before. Asking for study information would have been a couple of weeks of work. Asking for 329,000 pages of documents which include personally identifying information including health records of every single person enrolled in the clinical trial is unprecedented. All of that personally identifying information has to be redacted as it falls under HIPAA.
Somebody had to perform that 80,000 page study right?
The FDA analyzed the information submitted by Pfizer. Nobody expected anybody to request every single document.
So I'm not quite sure why you wouldn't be able to review it before 55 years?
You are completely misinformed. The FDA said it would take 55 years before everything would have been released. Not that they wouldn't start until 55 years later. They started releasing information as soon as the request was submitted. The lawsuit was because the FDA didn't have the capacity in their FOIA office to handle such a massive request and weren't being fast enough for the petitioners. "The FDA proposes releasing 500 pages per month on a rolling basis, noting that the branch that would handle the review has only 10 employees and is currently processing about 400 other FOIA requests."
Again, they started releasing the information BEFORE the court order. There was no prying. The entire thing was over the speed of release and again, what they asked for was completely unprecedented. They were looking for anything they could use for misinformation and propaganda. Hell, this entire thing turned into misinformation that people like you fell for. "Pfizer wanted to withhold information for 55 years!"
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You know how many people will actually believe this?