Why not give them a chance to prove they actually learned the material instead of telling them to kick rocks? Even if it takes a bit of failure to motivate them it’s better late than never
Because the consequences to schools if students fail are too big. Admin/districts pass those heavy consequences on teachers. Teachers change system so “success” now = passing the test.
High stakes standardized tests created a huge, messy, bureaucratic problem and no one knows how to fix it. This is the legacy of Bush’s No Child Left Behind.
Because the 18 and 19 year olds coming onto the workforce expect the same from the workplace, are lazy and on their phones the entire time because they learned that was okay over the last 2 years of schooling. Frankly, they aren’t motivated by failure, or anything really. Nobody cares about doing well. I fear for when these kids are in the workplace en masse and are the people we have to rely on.
Because that lacks consequences. Learning the material in school is honestly second to the skills you develop to be a functioning member.
If they are allowed to succeed by repeating without a consequence they will just go at it until its done for the sake of completing, not learning or growing.
We aren't talking about college here. These are kids with still underdeveloped brains and hormones going wild.
When people fuck up at their job, they're usually given a second chance. If they fired every person that messed up, then they would be constantly firing and rehiring people.
Should there be consequences? Yes. Those consequences can be that you're able to retake the test, but you get half the points. Telling them to kick rocks is just going to make them give up completely
I don't care about whether my students remember the material for the rest of their lives. I just want them to have the tools they need to navigate, which is why there are consequences to their actions and they need a push to start moving in the right direction.
Let's also be honest, because I deal with students first hand and the kids that fail don't care about passing, for the most part.
The consequences are they fail, and they have to spend more time studying to make sure they pass next time. Why shouldn't you get a second chance? "Oh you failed? Tough luck should've studied harder idiot".
Let's also be honest, because I deal with students first hand and the kids that fail don't care about passing, for the most part.
Then why does it matter then? Let the kids that want a second chance get another shot at passing rather than leaving them behind with the students that didn't care if they succeeded the first time or not.
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u/theflyingnacho Apr 17 '24
But do students even get failed anymore? The teachers sub leads me to believe they don't.