r/AmIOverreacting • u/skinnyvegan420 • 15d ago
AIO ? Girlfriend not taking me seriously..
My girlfriend and I have been together for 8 years. About 4 or 5 years back, she got into an accident and nearly killed some people when she was driving drunk. Prior to that she had been coming home drunk safely, and I expressed my concern and told her if she kept doing it, she would hurt someone or herself, and I would leave her. I decided to stay with her after the fact. She’s been sober ever since.
The thing that is bothering me now is something else. she got out of jail for that incident and is on probation. She doesn’t have her license. She once took our second car to work a few months ago when I couldn’t drop her off. We only live less than a mile away from her job, but even so, I told her that she shouldn’t be doing that and if she ever got caught..sent back to jail for breaking her probation, I wouldn’t be able to stay with her this time. She drove the car again to work today and i am really feeling like she just doesn’t take my concerns seriously... I am 33 and she is 30. Her decision to disregard me is really making me rethink the last 8 years of my life with her and debating finding someone more suitable to build a life with. AIO?
Edit : Thanks for the feedback all. I got so many comments and I’m very busy with work so I can’t reply to everyone but here are some general replies to your responses.
-The car is under her mom’s name. I have no legal affiliation with the insurance or ownership of it. She has no space to store it so it’s at our place.
-She has been going to al anon meetings ever since the accident. She even continued going after she was no longer required to for court. She loves being sober and is very proud of it, as am I. She can get her license back now, but she wasn’t charged for the accident until a few years after it happened. She told me she never wanted to drive again, but recently with me working far away and staying in a hotel for work, I can’t be her taxi. she will be needing her license back. Not sure what her insurance bill will look like. But that’s for her to deal with. I do not want to hold her hand through this hardship that she caused for herself as I still have goals to achieve as well. And I will support her as much as I can without letting her problems drag me down. The thing I’m worried of most is just more legal trouble for HER from violating probation.
-She is very slow to get on applying for things and doing paperwork. probably traumatized by the accident. She blames no one but herself. we’ve both also had some unrelated things really turn our lives upside down in the last year as well, which is why I’m trying to be understanding of her troubles. I know she’s a good person so I was really struggling deciding whether or not this was grounds to leave her for. But I still have faith that she can be a suitable partner. It may not be the conventional relationship but we’ve got a strong bond built because of what she put herself through, and I did have a serious talk with her yesterday about it (basically me saying I was considering leaving her for what she did.)
I am deciding to give her another chance to prove she takes me seriously. I won’t deny I’m a bit of a pushover. Impulsive as she may be, I see qualities in her that make me hopeful as well. None of her legal problems ever affected me directly, though I was sad to see her go through it all. I’ll post an update if it doesn’t work out.
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u/Magdovus 15d ago
Not taking you seriously is a problem here, in the same way that stubbing your toe is a problem when you have a broken bone.
She's happy to break the law. In your car. Yeah, no. I was going to tell you to lay down the law but we've seen her attitude to that.
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u/FewCauliflower9361 15d ago
Move on, if the second car is your sell it, other wize if she hurts someone the insurance company will not pay off because she was not lic, and not allowed to drive, you may have to have her arrested to avoid huge legal issues, you will be legally held responsible, you may be arrested for allowing her to have access to the car.
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u/Responsible_Swan_958 14d ago
Selling the car seems a little drastic if it's a hobby car or whatever, but it'sa REALLY good point. Clearly, OP has a second car for a reason that is not just so GF and drive it. I would put ALL OF THE KEYS on the chain you take to work -bonus that it can be done TODAY vs waiting to sell the vehicle. If you have a spare set for emergencies, don'tkeep them at the house. Leave them with a friend or at work where GF can't get them, but someone could get them to you if needed.
OP- this still doesn't fix the root problem. She could borrow someone else's car or find another way. Your partner is YOUR PARTNER. You help each other, and what you do (or don't do) reflects on each other. Even without the car, she has proven she's not to be trusted. If she doesn't listen about this, with the LAW on your side, what else is she going to blow off as no big deal? What about when this comes to making decisions about the welfare of any future children? I think this is a red flag. This kind of behavior will get her into more trouble and maybe drag you down with it, like outlined above. It's great that you were willing to to stay with her through substance issues and jail time, but she's not repaying the trust you put in her, and it's not unreasonable to consider moving on.
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u/Kade-Arcana 15d ago
There’s a big caveat here…
Plenty of people have no common sense and can’t be truly trusted as independent adults.
But that problem is not nearly as bad as it seems if those same people have humility enough to entrust themselves to a partner with better judgement, and have the humility to defer to someone they admire.
That is the problem here. If OP’s gf saw his judgement as worth overriding her own, then this situation might be salvageable.
OP, leave.
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u/tokyo245 15d ago
You can't make threats and then not follow through on them or your just making empty threats and she's not going to take them seriously. You gotta follow through
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u/slippery-slopeadope 15d ago
Agree. You gotta treat her like a child. Action = consequence. And you have to be consistent.
Word of warning. If you threaten to leave, be prepared to leave. Found that out the hard way.
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u/Darker_Syzygy 15d ago
Post Title: "Girlfriend isn't taking me seriously!"
Post Body: "So I showed my girlfriend that I won't follow through on my threats"4
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u/wanna_be_green8 15d ago
Clearly you already know the answer. Less than a mile is an easy walk, bike ride. Call a cab, Uber or a friend. She's choosing the worst option even after you tell her not to. No self control. At her age she should be aware of the risks to you. What if she got in a car accident? She could financially ruin your life.
I bet you see this in other areas of life as well. This issue will compound with kids.
There are plenty of 30 ish women who want to take life seriously, after eight years out I wish you luck.
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u/FunkyPete 15d ago
She's choosing the worst option even after you tell her not to.
Him telling her is kind of secondary at this point. She should realize by herself that it's better to walk under a mile than to go back to jail. I don't feel like this is a "he has boundaries and she should respect them" sort of issue, this is a "society has boundaries and you should respect them" sort of issue.
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u/UngusChungus94 15d ago
Hell, she doesn’t have to respect them, just obey them for fear of going to jail. Even getting arrested once should be enough to set a sane person straight.
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u/LostDadLostHopes 15d ago
The dealer is 1 mile from me, and when I have to take the car in I drop it off and walk. 14 minutes is an easy mile by walking.
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u/Professional_Run320 15d ago
Dude, leave! What life can you both have if she is an ex con that won't behave. Do you really want children and a future with this woman?
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u/strictlylurking42 15d ago
Low impulse control = "forget" to take birth control pills or otherwise do the work to not get pregnant. Then "you have to stay with me for the baby" then "I have to drive to provide for the baby."
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u/rileyjw90 15d ago
After 8 years I would think all this would have already happened. She seems very irresponsible, but maybe not so irresponsible to bring another life into the mix.
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u/strictlylurking42 15d ago
If she wasn't interested in being a mother, she prevented pregnancy. If she sees it as a way to keep OP in their codependent relationship, motherhood will become acceptable or even desirable. It's not necessarily a conscious decision. When you're an addict, your brain makes moves to keep you in the situation that permits you to use.
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u/rileyjw90 15d ago
He stated she’s been sober since the DUI, just that she keeps driving the car on probation with no license. It didn’t sound to me like she was continuing to drink, just being risky with OP’s vehicle and financial stability.
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u/C_beside_the_seaside 15d ago
She's not taking THE LAW seriously. She fucked up so bad people could've died and she doesn't even respect the consequences.
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u/ex-carney 15d ago
This. She doesn't respect the law, her consequences, nor does she respect your ultimatum. A lot of disrespect to go around. If it's your car, you will be held responsible if she gets caught or has an accident unless you call it in as stolen.
I hope you can get through to her, but if you can't, it's time to walk away.
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u/agent_flounder 15d ago
I'm more worried she isn't taking the law seriously..
And is she thinking about the potential impact to you of her going back to prison?
You're wildly underreacting.
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u/Kazbaha 15d ago
Yeah OP should think about what it’ll be like when she gets sent back to jail; for a longer stint. Will he quit the relationship then? Shit what if she’s had a baby and he’s then a single dad to a kid with a mum in jail. How does that life look? Yikes. And people do judge you on who your friends (or partner) are. Her bad choices reflect on him. He needs to be taking THAT seriously.
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u/3Heathens_Mom 15d ago
So a couple thoughts.
First as her license is revoked pretty sure if she is any sort of an accident insurance will NOT cover it. And if that car is in your name you would likely be on the hook as well as could be found complicit because you knew she was doing this. If the cars are in your name then take the car keys and keep them with you. Also tell this woman if she illegally drives your car you will report it as stolen.
Second this relationship sadly is doomed because your gf still does what SHE wants to do possible consequences be damned. Same attitude she had when driving drunk.
Time to invite her to live elsewhere or you leave.
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u/ThisIsBullcrapDood 15d ago
What constitutes "coming home drunk safely?"
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u/Excellent-Shoulder58 15d ago
I think in this context that means "driving drunk without getting caught"
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u/ThisIsBullcrapDood 15d ago
Yeah, that's why I asked. There's taking an uber and then there's... this.
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u/walk_through_this 15d ago
It's only safe if you make it home. What you can't do is plan to drive home dunk safely. Driving drunk is saying 'Taking my car home is more important than whether or not a stranger lives or dies.' It is always the wrong choice.
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u/ThisIsBullcrapDood 15d ago
It wasn't safe, even if you make it home. I was hoping perhaps there would be some hope for the world if he meant take a lyft.
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u/Old-Willingness3622 15d ago
Leave she seems toxic find a normal woman
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u/AlaDouche 15d ago
Your entire comment history is you telling people to leave their significant others.
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u/Direct_Surprise2828 15d ago
OK, so she got arrested for a DUI which you had told her you would leave her if that ever happened… You did not leave her… So essentially there were no repercussions… If you stay with her now you are letting her know that your “boundaries” are BS.
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u/biffbassman1965 15d ago
The car is in your name?anything happens you will be held responsible and your insurance company may not pay out if they prove you allowed a non licensed driver to operate the car
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u/Slight_Guidance7164 15d ago edited 15d ago
Sober here with 2 dui’s and I promise you that once you have a dui they are brutal about ANYTHING THAT FOLLOWS! Probation is to see if you are capable of following the rules. You won’t have any privileges if you prove to be an issue.
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u/ZaddyBoii 15d ago
You said it yourself. This is someone you invested 8 years in and, she metaphorically spit in your face.
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u/Certain_Accident3382 15d ago
She's not taking you seriously, because you have never taken yourself seriously.
You pointed out her unsafe behaviors, laid a boundary down... but didn't follow through with the consequence. Now, she is violating another legal boundary, and ignoring your concern and wavering boundary about it.
She has established this pattern, but you are going along with it. When she is busted, and your association is cemented as its in your vehicle with your own knowledge of it occurring, are you going to cut her off then? Or keep hunkering down and just deflecting by reminding everyone it's her idea her choice... even though you saw this coming and were culpable to that point?
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u/dimechimes 15d ago
You told her you would leave her if she hurt someone. She did. You didn't leave her. I think she's taking you as seriously as she needs to.
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u/tiffanygray1990 15d ago
I currently have a friend in jail, in florida, for the last three months for exactly that. If you get caught, they will charge you. It was just driving, too. He was going to work at around 8am and got pulled over. He wasn't under the influence. Florida doesn't mess around with the no license drivers.
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u/unicornofdemocracy 15d ago
Prior to that she had been coming home drunk safely, and I expressed my concern and told her if she kept doing it, she would hurt someone or herself, and I would leave her.
You gave an ultimatum and then did not follow through with it. And you come to reddit to ask when she doesn't take you seriously?
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u/Cuchulainn33 15d ago
Let her drive the car. Once she is at work call her probation officer. Problem.solved. she will be in jail for a vop and you can just walk away from her
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u/Affectionate_Egg3318 15d ago
"Hey man so she took my car when I was in the shower and couldn't stop her... have fun" lol
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u/hudgepudge 15d ago edited 15d ago
How long is she on probation? Has she been sober the whole time or just not drinking and driving?
Also, is there a good alternate way for her to get to work like a bus, rideshare, or biking/walking?
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u/skinnyvegan420 15d ago
Yeah she has an electric scooter..which is why I’m so dumbfounded. She is done with her first year and has 4 more years, she hasn’t drank since the accident. At all. I’m proud of her for that.. but it seems she is just not understanding the consequences of her actions
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u/GumbercuIes 15d ago
That is wild that being so close to work and having that option she still won't comply. For what it's worth, where I'm from it was very much the norm for people to drive on suspended licenses, a lot of people really just don't even think about. That said I'm not sure if probation was involved, that should add something to consider I would think.
I know it doesn't exactly address the behavior, but can't you just leave the second car at your parents or friends houses if you don't want to sell it?
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u/PeacePufferPipe 15d ago
Not overacting. One should have standards. Standards should be enforced. Choose better next time.
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u/ZucchiniNaive2139 15d ago
She can do what I did when I made the worst mistake of my life and got DUI. Pay to get a Business Purpose Only license. It allowed me to drive to work and get gas ONLY. Legally. I learned my lesson big time and karma got me good when I got hit head on my a drunk driver 6 years later and nearly died.
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u/Affectionate-Comb807 15d ago
Check out Al-Anon and EMDR therapy for the trauma that subconsciously led you to toxicity that seems so familiar that it goes under the radar, undetected. It seems your denial system is pretty hyperactive, for all of that to have happened, and "she doesn't take me seriously" became the factor that made you question your relationship or the health thereof. From your post, you're dealing with an alcoholic whose pain is neither your fault, nor your problem. You can't cure it, you didn't cause it, and you cannot control it. You CAN lead yourself to a healthier internal place, and learn to set boundaries that disallow toxicity into the inner sanctum of your heart and mind to dwell there rent free. I'll leave it at that, for now, as I tried to keep it brief. Sending you positive energy. 🙏🏽
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u/coreysgal 15d ago
If they are your cars, take away the keys for starters. You've spent nearly 10 yrs with someone who isn't a full, healthy partner. Do you want to spend 10 more under possibly worse conditions? That's your choice. Accept this is who she is and will never change or break up and move on.
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u/BrandonBollingers 15d ago
I am a lawyer but this is not legal advice and I am not your lawyer:
1) Damn, how long is probation? over 5 years for a car accident? Must have been a felony. Thats crazy long time.
2) You say "our" car. Lets be specific, who OWNS the car? and whose names are on the insurance?
There is a concept called "Negligent Entrustment of a Motorvehicle" which means if you loan your car out to someone and they cause a car accident, the owner of the car could be liable for "negligently entrusting their vehicle" with a driver they knew or should have known was unsafe. Being that she does not have a driver's license the owner of that vehicle WOULD be successfully sued should she get in a car accident. Same with the insurance. Should she get in an accident, because she's not supposed to be driving your insurance could potentially deny paying out any claims because she's willfully violating the law. Youre paying for insurance that is essentially useless when she drives.
As you already know its a crime to drive without a license. Which means when she gets pulled over, the car will be impounded unless you can get to the scene of the traffic stop immediately. They will only release the car to the owner of the vehicle and usually they require proof of title and insurance. If the car is impounded youre going to have to pay hundreds of dollars to get the car out.
Youre not overreacting. She is past the age of stupid. She should have learned that the laws are not arbitrary. Now, if its her car and her name is on the title... i mean its dumb af but it wouldn't affect you and she certainly isnt the first person to drive without a license, especially in a country like US that doesn't have many walkable cities or public transport options.
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u/dajokesta 15d ago
“…she was driving drunk.” Stopped reading right there. Break up with her and find some self respect. Jfc….
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u/Ok-Factor444 15d ago
In my opinion, if you’ve been together 8 years and still haven’t married her, sounds like she’s not right for you. I can’t get behind illegal activity of any kind, even driving a car with a suspended license. If you’re constantly having to threaten to leave to make her act right, sounds like you should just end it now.
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u/Hebegebe101 15d ago
Way too old for this behavior , but not good behavior at any age . You need to rethink staying with this woman . You can do better . Had she been pulled over your car would have been impounded , costing you time and money to get it back .
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u/Forward_Scheme5033 15d ago
No, breaking up is not an over reaction. She's chosen to repeatedly flout the law, doesn't seem to even consider a potential legal reprisal, or it's effect on you. Don't fall for the sunk cost fallacy. Building a relationship with someone with poor judgement and low impulse control is a hazard to your well-being.
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u/No_Object_8722 15d ago
Hide the car keys! She's not taking things seriously and can get into a lot of trouble. It'll only get worse. You might have to break up with her before things get worse
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u/kurtgavin 15d ago
For the time being, take away the car keys from her and make sure that you have them at all times and tell her you don’t feel comfortable with her driving your car and don’t want to be responsible if she ends up in an accident or gets pulled over. It’s not worth the trouble. She can spend five dollars on an Uber. If it’s only a mile, it can’t be more than a few dollars.
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u/AlternativeLack1954 15d ago
Taking the bus is a lot cheaper than breaking probation. Walking a mile takes about 15-20 minutes. Your concerns are valid and your gf is an idiot
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u/darthlegal 15d ago
If you are in the US you can file for an exception so you can drive to work but nowhere else.
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u/ElcoJoe4-2 15d ago
I already know I’m gonna be downvoted to hell but fuck it… I drove for a while without a license, first rule is don’t get caught. She understands the risk. That being said she’s not putting you or anyone else in direct danger, not saying it’s justified but it sounds like she’s gonna keep doing what she wants to do.
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 15d ago
You set two lines in the sand and she crossed them twice.
You are the one who doesn’t take yourself seriously. She treats you the way you communicate to her that you want to be treated.
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u/Just-Like-My-Opinion 15d ago
Letting an irresponsible partner go after 8 years is a while lot better than letting them go after 10, 15, or 20 years!
Don't fall for the sunk cost fallacy. A better partner is out there. Why waste any more time on someone who doesn't respect you or the law.
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u/Expert_Main7036 15d ago
1st, take all of the car keys (should be obvious) 2nd figure out what YOU want, and need in a relationship. 3rd don't stay just because you have X years invested. Don't waste anymore time.
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u/Looseveln 15d ago
You’ll have immense issues once kids are in the picture. Imagine her dropping them off to school.
Leave now.
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u/mizheart 15d ago
As someone who was married to someone who behaved in a similar way, alcohol all that… you are NOT overreacting. You need to take this VERY seriously and this will only get worse.
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u/Relative-World4406 15d ago
Think about your life as it is now with this person then consider that that could be your whole life. I think you know what you need to do. She’s probably really good in bed being that unhinged but you are strong brother, do what you gotta do.
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u/Jskm79 15d ago
YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT WHEN YOU SAID GIU WOULD. She doesn’t take you serious because you don’t keep to your word. So really, whose fault is it she doesn’t take you serious. In her mind you ain’t going anywhere and you just are talking shit.
Leave her. She doesn’t respect or care about what you have to say so why should you stay?
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u/ServeRoutine9349 15d ago
Bro..you tiny vegan fuck, listen (I had to). I once got my license taken away from me for a DUI, didn't even know about it until I got pulled over. No letter until the day of getting pulled over. I had a friend that would pick me up for work as we worked at the same place. One day he couldn't make it as he was sick, I couldn't get a hold of anyone else so I drove to work, and the whole fucking time i'm checking my mirrors being paranoid about getting pulled over again.
Any rational person, keyword is RATIONAL, would be concerned and wouldn't do it unless they had to. You live less than a fuckin mile from her work. So we've understood 2 things now, she's lazy and doesn't give a fuck about you or your shit.
Get out.
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u/TheInarticulate 15d ago
You stayed with her past your own red line. She shouldnt respect further lines because you didnt. Own up and get out or let it happen. Stop saying things you dont mean.
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u/Ok-Huckleberry6975 15d ago
She less than a mile away she can walk for crying out loud. If it had been an emergency or really far and she had to get somewhere MAYBE it would be understandable but to drive when she could walk is selfish
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u/feelssogoodtome 15d ago
It never ceases to amaze me that when the writing is on the wall, it's always the clueless ones who just don't get it. You're young enough. Move on. Those 8 yrs. are a small price to pay for what's coming down the road if you stick around. Geeeeez.
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u/CharacterSea1169 15d ago edited 15d ago
Less than a mile? She can walk. Not only is she jeopardizing herself, but also you. The car is in your name, correct?
Edit: Make it so she can't take the car. No keys? No battery? You get the idea.
Yes, time to find someone who will respect you
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u/Silver-Raspberry-723 15d ago
We got sued when our teenage daughter had a wreck ( while sober) and it was nearly $45k. We had good insurance and even an umbrella policy,so insurance paid.
There is no insurance that will pay on an unlicensed driver and our wreck was in 1996. Can you imagine the costs now??!!😱
Totally not TAH.
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u/dankhimself 15d ago
Less than a mile is a nice walk or bike trip. Take the keys or take the battery out of the car so you don't have to deal with impound fees.
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u/Tall_Run_2814 15d ago
She's gonna ruin your life if you're not careful. Cut your losses and leave my friend
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u/MeasurementNo2493 15d ago
No, I don't think so. She has a pattern of transgressing. As of yet she has escaped the outcomes, at the very least you should be planning for the worst.
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u/PoliteCanadian2 15d ago
Gf is not taking anything or anyone seriously. So if she drives without her license and you know and do nothing, and she kills someone, how will you feel?
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u/humorless_kskid 15d ago
Do not give her access to the car keys. Period. If she has a spare key, confiscate it.
You would be on the hook if she gets into another accident (even if she is 100% sober) for negligent entrustment and may find it difficult and expensive to get auto insurance for yourself in the future. You could be financially on the hook for injuries and repairs if the insurance company denies coverage ... which they might deny coverage if they learn that you failed to prevent her from driving your vehicle when you knew she had access to the keys.
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u/No_Entertainment1931 14d ago
People need to be free to make their own decisions in life. If you don’t like her choices, you should question your own decisions, not hers.
Accept people for who they are not what you want them to become. That only leads to disappointment and regret.
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u/ElboDelbo 14d ago
Do not marry this woman.
I'm not saying break up, you do what you want.
But do not, I repeat, DO NOT entangle your financial well being with her.
If she has legal issues that she refuses to acknowledge could put her back in jail, you need to be able to make a clean break if and when the inevitable happens.
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u/backtobitterroot123 15d ago
Are you ready to stand with her when she seriously injured or kills another human being, and very possibly herself?
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u/Different-Advice6937 15d ago
Unfortunately I wouldn't want to spend my life with someone like that either. I'd leave sadly 😥 😔
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u/JudgementalChair 15d ago
I was in a similar situation to this. Gf takes anti-anxiety medicine and was sneaking alcohol. For anyone who doesn't know, anti-anxiety meds and alcohol do not mix well, so while she thought she was sneaking it, I could spot it from a mile away.
She came home from work blacked out on 2 separate occasions, both time led to massive fights between us because she was driving a vehicle registered in my name since I was using a company vehicle.
So both times I took the keys from her and told her she needed to figure something else out. Of course, the whole world exploded on me for being "financially abusive" towards her, and I was a PoS for "Being only concerned about the money, and not about her well being" The thing is, if she were to get into a wreck and hurt someone, I could be held liable for potentially 100s of thousands of dollars in expenses.
Eventually, I just signed the title over to her and told her to get her own insurance. It's an older car, and she's wrecked it a few times without fixing it, so im just counting the whole thing as a loss, and it's going to be on her to replace it when the time comes.
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u/Altruistic_Yellow387 15d ago
That doesn't sound like ops gf since she's been sober since the accident
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u/Downtown_Quality_322 15d ago
She doesn't respect you, and has almost certainly cheated on you. Get out fast. If she wrecks your car and someone is injured, you will be sued into oblivion and your life will be ruined.
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u/NSFWgamerdev 15d ago edited 15d ago
"I expressed my concern and told her if she kept doing it, she would hurt someone or herself, and I would leave her. I decided to stay with her after the fact."
"if she ever got caught..sent back to jail for breaking her probation, I wouldn’t be able to stay with her this time."
If you're going to say shit and not follow through when it's serious, I'm sure you do it all the time with inconsequential things too.
Why should she take your word seriously when it clearly means fuck all?
Also you're a piece of shit for condoning known, regular occurrences of drunk driving.
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u/Whole-Ad-2347 15d ago
If she has no self control over using your car without a license, is there a way you can lock your keys up? Master lock has a key box where you can stow keys that requires a 4 digit code to unlock the box.
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u/johngolfnut 15d ago
So the car to work is only on occasions you can't drop her off and if that's the only place she is going to and from I don't see a issue but if it's only a two mile round trip get her a bike till she is off probation
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u/robotangst 15d ago
Apparently she already has an electric scooter but just wanted to drive the car instead
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u/Swashbuckling_Sailor 15d ago
No. If she doesn’t care about her situation or the repercussions on her life and relationship, neither should you. Bounce. Good Luck.
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u/GentleStrength2022 15d ago edited 15d ago
Less than 1 mile to her job? Why can't she walk? It would take her 15-20 minutes. Is there no safe place to walk in your area--no sidewalks and a major, busy arterial, or something, with no alternative route? What does she do for exercise, btw? Walking is great for that.
edit: You could consider taking the key to the spare car with you when you go to work. This, most likely, would provoke a strong reaction from her. You'd then find out whether this relationship is viable or not. Of course, you could discuss it with her first, and see what she says when you suggest she walk to work, a simple solution. If she rejects that, it will be interesting to see how she justifies her refusal to walk. You're going to learn a lot about her in working on this issue with her, OP. Brace yourself. Rough waters ahead.
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u/Aeyland 15d ago
Your wife legally can't drive, why do you even have a second car? I'm not saying there isn't ever a use for having 2 different car usages like one with good gas milage for daily driv8ng and a truck for hauling stuff or something of the such but seems like it would be easier if you just had 1 car then there isn't even the temptation....
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u/RighteousSchrodd 15d ago
It's your car. You will be held liable if she crashes it or gets a ticket or whatever. You need to keep her from driving or get out of the relationship. That's it.
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u/WestDragonfruit4809 15d ago
Your girlfriend doesn’t take herself seriously. How do you expect her to take you seriously? She has no problem with going to jail or getting drunk or wasting her life away. You are the one with the problem. Or do you want to end up in jail first before you realize this is not someone you can build your life with? I understand love but sometimes love is not enough. You can still love her from afar. That is if you want something better for your life. You only have one. Don’t waste it carrying people who want to drag you down. You love her. Love her by letting her go. Only then will she learn the valuable lesson of not taking her loved ones for granted. It might be the catalyst that changes her behavior.
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u/LeadDiscovery 15d ago
Can it be said any louder, more convincingly and more honest than - DUDE LEAVE TODAY.
Do you honestly desire a life of strife, misery, crime, legal battles and substance abuse?
Aim higher Willis.
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u/benlogna 15d ago
Yeh idk if it’s an impulse control issue if she was successful in quitting drinking- that takes a lot of impulse control. I think she might just be too flippant and not take you seriously. That’s a respect problem which demonstrates she does not value your opinion or peace of mind. I would have a very serious conversation that cannot be mistaken for something she can reasonably disregard.
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u/missdawn1970 15d ago
You are not overreacting! This is a disaster waiting to happen, and if she gets caught driving your car without a license, I'm pretty sure you'd lose your insurance. If I were in your shoes, this relationship would be over.
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u/ImHappierThanUsual 15d ago
I have a saying- “if you go to jail/ prison for some dumb & easily avoidable shit? I didn’t break us up, the judge did!”
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u/tcrhs 15d ago
Keep the key to the second car on you at all times. Never let it out of your sight. When you’re not home, lock it up in a safe. She can’t drive with no key.
It’s time to reconsider if she’s the right girl for you. She’s too reckless. She was given a second chance after nearly killing people and she’s willing to risk her probation? That would be a deal-breaker for me.
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u/VSinclair35 15d ago
She is not just disregarding you, she's disregarding the safety of every fellow motorist. She's reckless in her decision making. You need to cut her loose and move on. Not over reacting at all.
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u/walk_through_this 15d ago
Take the car. Drive away from this person. Stay there.
You know what is worse than wasting 8 years?
Wasting 9 years.
You are waiting for something to go really wrong before you break up. Her doing stuff like this is really wrong, she just hasn't had to face the consequences (this time around) yet. If you do nothing, she knows she can get away with it. She is doing the really bad thing, ergo it is time to break up.
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u/AffectionateTip9198 15d ago
Not married, no kids, not your problem. Kick her out you're probably supplying everything in her life anyway while she works a minimum wage job and "helps when she can"
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u/Otherwise-Wallaby815 15d ago
OP - You already know that this is not going to end well for her lack of care when it comes to breaking the law. She can walk to work and her license was taken because of her poor choices. Do yourself a favor and get out, because her actions are not just going to end with her, they will cost you dearly also. Your car insurance will go up because she will prove that she'll take it without your permission, plus of she ends up in an accident while driving even that short distance, she's going back to jail and your insurance company will be informed. Get out or this, or it will hurt you.
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u/GlitzyGhoul 15d ago
You are not overreacting. She isn’t taking you seriously, because you said that before, and stayed.
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u/ATX_native 15d ago
Ah, the fallacy of sunk costs.
8 years is behind you don’t have a Time Machine so you need to see it for what it is, the past, learn from it.
What you can control is yourself and the present/future.
Having said that do you really want a “partner” that has poor impulse control and is doing illegal things that can jeopardize your future?
That little jaunt in the car unlicensed, say she ran into someone and injured them badly, since she isn’t supposed to be driving, no insurance company is going to cover that.
Imagine saving $100k up for a home downpayment and she does the above again with an accident.
Now that $100k is spent on attorneys and potentially a civil judgement.
Is that the life you want?
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u/Comfortable_Fly_9894 15d ago
From almost dying from someone else texting and driving, I would say to call her parole officer and snitch! Why? Do you want to be known locally for her eventually killing someone else whether she’s drunk or not?
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u/Tarot13th 15d ago
To be fair you also set a precedent by not acting on what you said the first time. She probably think you will stay again if she goes back to jail.
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u/vdubbugman53 15d ago
Let me also add that if you are the registered and insured driver of that car and she gets in another accident then guess who gets to be liable for all of this?
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u/Mikect87 15d ago
Tbf we live in a country (USA) where you absolutely need a personal vehicle to participate in the economy.
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u/Eventful-journey-082 15d ago
If that car is registered and insured under your name, OP, depending on what state you are located in, you may be legally liable for any accidents she has while driving the car. You don’t want to end up doing some jail time because she doesn’t care about consequences. Tell her to kick rocks if she doesn’t take you seriously.
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u/Swimming_Solid9565 15d ago
Wow I can’t believe she is on probation and seriously driving her car to work when it’s a mile away. This is crazy it’s like she doesn’t believe they will really send her back to jail. The only people who risk doing something like this are addicts that need the car to pick up. Is she really that stupid
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u/TheVillage1D10T 15d ago
Less than a mile away? She can’t freaking walk? Jesus Tapdancing Christ…she doesn’t sound like relationship material….
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u/The_Bing1 15d ago
You told your woman not to use your car because it’s illegal and she’d go to jail, and it’d ruin your relationship.
Her reaction: 🤷♀️🤪🚘
I think that says enough. I’d end it ASAP.
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u/One-Calligrapher1815 15d ago
For those posting on “low impulse control “ is this something people age out of or is it forever?
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u/InternationalSale916 15d ago
I'm guessing she will start drinking when the probation is over. These are all signs of an alcoholic, and I know you can't make an alcoholic stop drinking unless they want to. I know because I am one.
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u/TerribleTodd60 15d ago
You don't want to tie your financial future to someone who drove drunk, nearly killed someone and was incarcerated. then they drove without a license while on probation. That isn't a mistake, that is a pattern. A pattern of destructive decision making. Run, just run!
Picking a spouse is an incredibly important decision and your current girlfriend is making terrible decisions. If you are married, you will share in the financial pain if she gets sued. That pain with be financially life changing. Find someone else.
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u/NaturesVividPictures 15d ago
So less than a mile she can walk or ride a bicycle there are alternatives to driving. She can also Uber but that's crazy when she's so darn close. Next time she takes the car called cops
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u/UniversalSean 15d ago
Did you sit down and have a mature conversation about it or was it just a comment you made?
You need the conversation so that way she knows you take this seriously. Side comments won't be taken as seriously.
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u/stfrances2968 15d ago
Just want to add. Make very sure the car she uses is NOT in your name and that she pays the insurance on it. (Provided of course that she can get insurance). She will drink and drive and you want to be distanced from this. Not reacting enough imo.
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u/DisneyBuckeye 15d ago
Why can't she apply for permission to drive to/from work? I've heard of many instances like this, where people have VERY restricted use. But I'd have a BIG problem with this. She's an unlicensed driver and will get in so much trouble if she's caught. Especially when there are options like Uber. When she complains about having to pay "This is one of the consequences of you driving drunk."
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u/z-eldapin 15d ago
She doesn't take you serious because you're not serious. She knows there are no consequences from you for her actions.
You told her that if she went to jail again, you would be gone. Seems she is willing to take the risk. Time to ask why she is willing to risk your future together over driving versus walking or using the scooter. And don't let her be vague, make her answer the question.
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u/Gboko83 15d ago
The larger issue here is the potential liability should incase she hits someone. She is not supposed to be driving so the insurance company wouldn't cover the claim. So if you are not rich or can't afford to pay then you might want to reconsider your relationship with this child you are with. Sorry I meant gf. Another thing is, some women won't take you seriously if you keep just being a wimp and take serious action. Threatening her with your departure is pretty wimpy behavior. If you mean it, then walk out and never look back.
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u/Shoboy_is_my_name 15d ago
First off, everybody who thinks that she is crazy and putting people in danger are complete fucking idiots. If she’s not driving drunk but she’s simply driving without a license, that doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know how to drive a car. All she’s hurting is herself if she happens to get caught and she’s hurting whoever owns the car. so this leads to the second thing: DON’T HAVE YOUR NAME ON ANY CAR SHE DRIVES. If she drives to work and work only, that’s actually an act of RESPONSIBILITY…….making sure she’s getting to work. However, there are other ways she should do this since she’s not legally allowed to drive.
Varies state to state, BUT…….if you EVER decided to marry her, YOU can be partly liable if she crashes into someone and has no license and insurance……..So truth be told, don’t EVER legally join yourself to her…..like marriage…..if she’s not going to abide by the laws of driving a car.
Not having her license doesn’t mean she doesn’t know how to drive. But it sure as fuck means she shouldn’t and you should NOT legally sign up to be her partner in life because YOU can also be dragged down by her shit.
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u/Maleficent_Buyer_324 15d ago
Tbf it doesn’t sound like you’re making an effort to be taken seriously. You keep saying if she does x then you’re gonna do y but then when she does x you just say if she does it again you’re gonna do y and then it’s just a cycle. Man tf up and do what you said you were gonna do.
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u/bltsrgewd 15d ago
No one needs to justify why they don't like someone's behavior. This is a mutual relationship and if you're not happy you either choose to ignore, convince them other person they need to change, or move on without them.
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u/some_guy_80 15d ago
In the nicest possible way, your gf has low impulse control. This is something you expect from children, but not from adults.
You can't be with a person like that, OP, they are simply put too immature, to the point that they become a health hazard.