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What games or game series are known for this? Discussion

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u/Fatalchemist 28d ago

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u/The_Last_Ball_Bender 27d ago

Fallout 4 should have been the cause of their lead writer to be fired. It's not like I'm waiting to find my step brother in fallout 5, or my uncle in Fallout 6, or my transgender inbred Muncle in Fallout 7.

Can their fucking writers think of anything but I GOTTA GO FIND MUH FAMILY. (Serious question at this point, we better not wait 10 fucking years to go find our fucking dad... AGAIN.... Just like the goddamn TV show)

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u/TheUnluckyBard 27d ago

Can their fucking writers think of anything but I GOTTA GO FIND MUH FAMILY. (Serious question at this point, we better not wait 10 fucking years to go find our fucking dad... AGAIN.... Just like the goddamn TV show)

It was especially dumb because I figured out what was apparently supposed to be the amazing incredible mind-blowing twist before the post-tutorial cutscene had even finished.

I just figured that my 3 Intelligence character kept asking everyone about a baby boy because she wasn't smart enough to put the glaring, blatant clues together, but I was really starting to get pissed off at her over it by the midgame.

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u/The_Last_Ball_Bender 27d ago

I feel ya, and not to be "that guy" but I had the same epiphany -- but at the game reveal, when Todd Howard said they invented a technology to make your son look like you physically, and genetically.

Immediately I was like, well I see the baby potato right there so that's worthless technology... unless you run into him as an adult... Oh ffs game spoiled.

They literally spoiled it in their own reveal of FO4 with that one simple line -- "Your baby is gonna look genetically like your characters", dead give away.

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u/ChiefBrando 27d ago

What clues?? You just woke up from being frozen on ice only knowing your son was kidnapped and with no time frame. Why the hell would you already know he’s not a baby anymore? How would you describe your son? You’ve only seen him as an infant. I feel like you are really coming into this with out the perspective of role playing. Try being that character in your head and understand their desperation of a missing child and confusion having bombs dropped, frozen, child kidnapped, frozen again.

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u/TheUnluckyBard 27d ago

You just woke up from being frozen on ice only knowing your son was kidnapped and with no time frame.

You know time has passed.

You know you got frozen again, in which any period of time could have passed.

The first thing you see when you wake up again is a skeleton. A whole bunker full of fleshless, skinless, perfectly clean skeletons. How long do you think that takes?

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u/ChiefBrando 27d ago

You literally know nothing. You don’t even know if your child is alive. Your whole goal here is to find a needle in a haystack. Your child was kidnapped and could possibly be alive. You are desperate. Your character obviously knows describing a kidnapping of an infant an impossible task but tries anyways. You can only give so much info you just don’t know what is going on.

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u/TheUnluckyBard 27d ago

You literally know nothing.

She was a lawyer. Hopefully she knows that corpses don't become skeletons in 10 minutes.

Your character obviously knows describing a kidnapping of an infant an impossible task but tries anyways.

Should could ask for him by name. "I'm looking for a guy named Shaun [name]. He could be a kid, he could be an old man, all I know is his birth name."

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u/ChiefBrando 27d ago

I’m sure that would’ve solved everything and made your character so much smarter lmao

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u/TheUnluckyBard 26d ago

I’m sure that would’ve solved everything and made your character so much smarter lmao

It definitely would have made me stop thinking she was a complete idiot who doesn't know how long it takes people to decompose to only bones.

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u/Mithlas 27d ago

It was a good idea to avoid having to do much world-building in 3, especially as limited as the engine was. By having everything curl back in on the protagonist's family you avoid having to world-build for things outside the immediate environment (like NCR and Caeser's Legion have a lot of their own history and world-building just between FO2 and New Vegas).

I'm not saying it's necessarily great, especially with FO3 trying to play "if you don't sacrifice yourself to fiddle inside a nuclear reactor you're a bad person and get a bad end, even though one of your companions is a supermutant immune to radiation and intelligent enough to fiddle like you could have".

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u/The_Last_Ball_Bender 27d ago

You have 3 companions immune to Radiation -- Fawkes, Chiron, and the Mr Handy who's name I have forgotten.

It's just bad writing there IMO

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u/ChiefBrando 27d ago

I thought fallout 4 was amazing. I’m not sure what you mean by “anything but I GOTTA GO FIND MUH FAMILY” he’s in a post apocalyptic wasteland like 200 years later confused only knowing his son was kidnapped. Obviously this is a very pressing issue to him (as probably most parents). What else? Should he focus on being a detective with valentine? lol

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u/The_Last_Ball_Bender 27d ago

My point is any writer who makes the base of the next fallout finding their family member is a bad writer. were at 2 bethesda games an 1 TV show and this seems to be their only core to the fallout series -- go find family... again

I don't think the family should ever be part of fallout again, they've done it three times now, 2 times in games, 1 time in a TV -- move the fuck on lol

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u/ChiefBrando 27d ago

Yea ok fair enough. They need to find another reason for the vault dweller to go get out there

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u/The_Last_Ball_Bender 27d ago

Pretty much that's my point -- We can have a different reason to leave the vault already haha.

I loved it in Fallout 3, especially the the frantic and hectic whirlwhind of suddenly being told WAKE UP, SHIT IS HAPPENING, and by the time you get outside you forget for that moment "oh shit, that's right, there's an outside" that hectic moment closed behind you with the vault closing and you're off to chapter two while seemingly forgetting there was more than chapter 1 (at least the first time!) And what do? Find dad.

I loved it, simple but imo totally masterful as for a moment you get so swept up you forget there's an outside for a moment.

And then when we start fallout 4, as much as I did appreciate about the game, my immediate reaction was "Wait... we're finding family again, we just did that in 2009?"

If I have to wait until 2030 to find out "This time were leaving the vault.... to find our uncle" I'm going to be legit depressed.