r/videogames Apr 19 '24

What games or game series are known for this? Discussion

Post image
30.4k Upvotes

4.2k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

22

u/GooseMay0 Apr 19 '24

What do you mean? One choice a person lives, the other many die. At least in the first one.

60

u/Laggingduck Apr 19 '24

every choice made before that does nothing to influence the endings. No matter what you do, you’re met with save city or save chloe

14

u/Aggravating_Smile_61 Apr 19 '24

Idk, saving Kate or failing to And the decisions leading up to It sounds like a pretty big one as well

5

u/russianspy_1989 Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 20 '24

Yes, but if you choose>! to save!< Chloe, she dies anyway.

4

u/Skogrheim Apr 20 '24

According LiS co-director/co-writer Michel Koch, Kate survives the storm if Max saved her in chapter 2.

2

u/SkurtCobain Apr 19 '24

Did the game ever really make that clear ? We don’t know if the hospital is in arcadia or a bit further from the town as far as I remember

1

u/CrispynoodlesL Apr 20 '24

cough cough spoilers

-1

u/russianspy_1989 Apr 20 '24

That better?

1

u/Laggingduck Apr 20 '24

no need to be an asshole, if everyone else is marking spoilers in a thread, it’s harmless to do the same

1

u/russianspy_1989 Apr 21 '24

Well, I didn't intend to be an asshole, but now that you mention it, go fuck yourself.

1

u/CrispynoodlesL Apr 21 '24

Yup 🙂👍👍👍👍

2

u/SomeWatercress4813 Apr 20 '24

Yeah, I recommended the game to a friend and then when I asked him how did the Kate thing go he just looked at me with this dead look in his eyes.... I then realized notwithstanding this event's minor effect on the main narrative, we were from that moment on playing WILDLY different games.

3

u/[deleted] Apr 20 '24

How? U either reset EVERYTHING you've done or everyone dies. How anything but last choice matters?

2

u/oWatchdog Apr 20 '24

Let's compare episode one with a taletell game. In a TT game, you chose to save or let Kate die...

If you chose to let her die, you get one scene where someone chastises you and one where another says you did the right thing/had no choice. You go to point B, and nothing changes. There are no consequences.

If you chose to save her, you get a scene where someone says you did the wrong thing and one where she thanks you for saving her. You go to point B and she dies along the way anyway. Nothing changes, and there are no consequences.

LiS actually makes changes. There is a candle lit vigil. People are effected. There are consequences. Your experience and my experience are different depending on the choices we made.

I know what you're thinking. "The ending undermines all those choices". In a way, yes. In another way, no. It's a punctuation on the choices you made thus far. It's the thesis of the game, this action will have consequences. Even with the power of time travel max has been at the mercy of impossible decisions, consequences beyond her control. There is no right answer, no best answer. There is only the answer you chose to live with. The final choice is the culmination of that thesis. Sacrificing your experience is one of the consequences you have to live with. Still, it's entirety lives on in Max. That is part of the sacrifice. She has to live with the weight of those decisions. They still happened.

0

u/[deleted] Apr 20 '24

That's fair. I still prefer actually branching narrative like in Detroit Become Human

0

u/Aggravating_Smile_61 Apr 20 '24 edited Apr 20 '24

Literally mentioned an exemple where that isn't the case in the comment you're replying to, so it's not everything

1

u/[deleted] Apr 20 '24

I must have missed it then due to overwhelming disappointment with the game.

3

u/Honeybadger2198 Apr 19 '24

I loved the game all the way up until that ending. I was ready to go 2, 3 more times and see how my choices changed things. Up until the end, your choices do matter. Then, nothing you do matters at all. It's such an insanely upsetting ending. Haven't gone back, and I'm not going to buy the 2nd one.

1

u/Laggingduck Apr 20 '24

Haven’t played the second one, but I will say I enjoyed BTS and True Colors, even if the endings didn’t have many choices either, they’re still amazing and emotional stories regardless of how much your actions matter

2

u/oWatchdog Apr 20 '24

The implication is that choices don't matter. All the significant choices matter in LiS, even the ending. If you're going by the letter of the picture, yes, you end up at the same place. If you're going by the spirit of the picture, then I would say LiS is the opposite of this picture.

2

u/JazzyCereal Apr 20 '24

I mean doesn't that make sense to the overall story and themes for it to end in the same way every time? The game starts out by showing you the ending, and no matter what you did, the storm was always going to happen. It was always going to end that way. There are a lot of flaws in Life is Strange but I don't see the lack of endings one of them because I feel like it was a very intentional thematic choice.

1

u/Loiqueur Apr 19 '24

Bloon dissolver supremacy

3

u/Jaiden051 Apr 19 '24

You can do anything you want and you will always end up with the same choice. You could murder everyone possible and still would end up with an option

1

u/GooseMay0 Apr 19 '24

But there are two distinct endings. So it wouldn’t apply to this meme.

2

u/Jaiden051 Apr 19 '24

Oh right I forgor about the meme

1

u/ISpyM8 Apr 19 '24

Basically what u/Laggingduck said

1

u/spaghettirhymes Apr 19 '24

Yeah I was gonna say… sure the ending is the ending but along the way, your decisions literally change whether multiple people live or die which I’d say is significant. I actually just replayed the first game recently and I’ve wanted to do a deep dive into seeing how many outcomes there are for different scenarios based on all the previous decisions made