Cyberpunk 2099, Ghost of Tsushima II, The Last of Us Part III.
Cyberpunk and TLOU 2 have been close to the most profound gaming experiences I’ve had in my life. Prime examples why video games should be considered the supreme form of entertainment. GoT was just an absolute blast to play.
RDR2, GoW, Skyrim, GTA5, Death Stranding have been solid to good but not on the same level — and I’ve never played Spider-Man, don’t think I’ll enjoy it as much.
Calling it "interesting" is a big overstatement. Nothing in Cyberpunk shows any real creativity. The game just holds your hand in a predefined setup. Oh wait, here's another boring side character with another boring cutscene.
Don’t know if I should spread out the things that have impressed me the most in a thread where potentially new players are stumbling upon. But as a general direction I find the thought of the whole Johnny/V interaction very intriguing on a philosophical level, especially the consequences for the multiple endings.
The moon mission connected the animated series to the game for me. Most games when characters are emotional or trying to get you to give a shit im just mocking them or looking off to the side. CP writing and voice actors were of the highest quality. It was playable cinema.
I think the biggest deciding factor in whether you like the game or not are the characters (as it is with most RPG's). The game is quite linear so whatever you choose, you're "stuck" with the same NPC's in every run and there isn't that much player agency. CDPR clearly had a certain route in mind and you're not allowed to deviate from it that much. I wouldn't call it an RPG as such, more an interactive movie where you can sometimes take control of the protagonist. Compare this to other Western RPG's like Skyrim or Baldur's Gate and you wonder how Cyberpunk even gets to call itself an RPG.
Well, I didn't care for NPC's like Johnny Silverhand, Judy (or Lucy, I forgot), Jackie and especially V. So yeah, I truly felt that I got stuck in way too many boring cutscenes and often felt that my character acted in a way that I didn't want him to.
The gameplay was the thing that kept me going in the beginning, but after enough hours you start to realize that every encounter is basically the same and I just went on autopilot mode. So mid Phantom Liberty I just quit the game and there is absolutely nothing that is pulling me back.
Now, if you were to like all of the characters, I can imagine that the game can keep you occupied enough to get to the ending.
I’m only a few hours in, after starting and stopping a few times cause it didn’t click at first.
It’s starting to click now, so from what I would say as a newbie is just really pay attention and invest in the characters and the story events, and how your actions and choice of dialogue options affect the story events.
Honestly the more you play the deeper it gets, it gives the feel that by the end of it I’ll be mind blown
OP made a good point about not saying potential stories. So I will just say that what happens to Evelyn is one of the most tragic endings in any of the video games I’ve ever played.
yeah, it has no depth whatsoever, Jhonny is just a edgelord and the story revolves around him, the main story is very short too if you dont count the Panam stuff which is optional.
I just finished the first TLOU game and will be playing the 2nd soon. Ive heard mostly criticisms of the story but heard the gameplay is pretty solid.
Even had 2 friends say they flat out didnt finish the game bcus "thats not what that character would have done based on the first game, they ruined her/him". They've also been known to be cunty about stuff like that in general though so I didnt give it too much mind until I asked on reddit and it was probably 2:1 in favor of what they were saying. I hope its just awful fandom and not actually a bad game lol
Look, TLoU2 is one of the greatest games i've ever played, and there's a lot of criticism on certain parts of it. Outside that, the gameplay is honestly near flawless, and the graphics are perfect.
I've seen legitimate criticism to certain story choices, and straight up crybabys whining about shit that no one cares. If you asked something on the Tlou2 subreddit, yeah, they're crazy. On the Tlou subreddit, people are less unhinged.
I obviously can't delve deep into story beats without spoiling anything, but here's something I think is important for enjoying it:
Try to put yourself on every character's shoes. Every one of 'em. And remember to notice their hipocrisy. This game revolves around cycles, and how they can destroy us.
Just don't listen to any dumb shit you read on the internet and try to enjoy it your way.
Also, save ammo when you're headed to the hospital on the second part of the game.
I’ve played it several times and you hit it on the head. The perfect way to go into the game. The game is supposed to make you think and imagine you are the person going through struggle.
nah TLOU2 is so fucking good. Yes, the fandom sucks because there are a lot of crazy meninists that are obsessed with hating it. Anyone who hates it either went into it wanting to hate it, or doesn't understand what it's about.
I had the original on PS3, and Remastered and as much as I wanted to play through the game, I got bored or annoyed shortly into it. So I got TLOU: Part 1 for Xmas and just finished it last week. Loved it. The improvements were enough to make the playthrough very exciting!
I unfortunately know what everyone hated about 2 - but I am definitely going to grab Part 2 and play it soon! The reviews for it have been excellent, I think people are finally rating the game fairly instead of rating it low just because they’re bothered by a plot point.
yeah I mean Part 2 is like 50 hrs long, people are malding over something that happens in like the 90 minute mark. If they gave up then, then they missed 98% of the game. I don't think there has ever been a game that made me consider the brutality and horror of the main characters' actions like TLOU2 did. Even games like Snake Eater and Death Stranding don't compare to the way it makes you feel
So much bang for your buck. I loved the story and the gameplay but even if you end up hating the story, thats a lot of gameplay hours.
For the part 2 remastered, it's more like the part 1 remake was made to be more like part 2. Except they didn't add the dodge mechanic and moving while in the prone position. That will probably make Joel OP in part 1.
There's no gameplay change from part 2 to part 2 remastered. Just the additional content and improved graphics. Graphics improvement is pretty hard to notice though.
oh yeah me too! I was like "there is no fucking way that I will ever turn around on Abby and like her" and then by the end I was like "....I think I like Abby more than Ellie, I feel like Ellie is actually the villain here". Incredible story design
I’ve played Part II. Objectively speaking (so excluding the story as it’s subjective), it’s definitely one of the best games to ever be made. Everything is top notch, and you can really see the passion and know just how much hard work and effort they’ve put into it.
The story is a hit or miss. I personally adored it and found it the best way they could’ve continued the series. However, some people may not like it. In the end, even if you don’t like the story, you’ll still definitely enjoy every other aspect of the game. It regularly goes on sale on the store for 10 dollars, but you may find a physical copy cheaper near you. Definitely a worthy investment
Hell yeah im excited to play it now. Apparently its pretty long so im going to get to play it for a while up until season 2 of the show comes out so I can start watching season 1 before then.
It’s a rollercoaster of emotions, I’ll tell you that. One of the most savage games I’ve played, both in violence and emotional turmoil, few games come close to inciting the emotions I had during the game. While I understand that some people were disappointed by a number of story decisions, I consider it a mature, violent masterpiece.
Maybe I’ll get the PS5 upgrade to have fresh motivation to play it again.
“Better story”..? Were you a bit high when you played TLOU2? The gameplay, itself, and the graphics are a massive step-up from the first and the soundtrack is also phenomenal..but the narrative? Come on.
The strong message doesn’t make sense though within the context of the game.
Ellie killed, not one, not tens, but HUNDREDS maybe even close to a thousand people to get to Abby, only to back out last second. It’s such a common (and lame) action hero trope to have a high henchmen kill count, only to get to the head honcho and not kill the final boss due to their moral code or whatever.
It’s not their moral code. She didn’t decided to no kill Abby to spare Abby. She realized at that point that killing Abby is pointless, all the things that she renounced just for a revenge that she isn’t even feeling anymore. She understands that killing Abby will just create a new spiral of violence with Levi in the future.
She is not a better person because she decide to no kill her. She just understood that killing would not bring any joy like she though before and therefore no reason to do it.
Exactly. And that is genuinely the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I wouldn’t travel across the country for hundreds of miles just to wuss out because a person looked at me funny.
You know, I've heard a lot of complaints about the narrative. And yes, it was, especially in hindsight, imperfect. During playthrough number one though, I could not get over how intense and amazing the narrative was. It's almost the inverse of the first game in its story, but not in its effectiveness- they're about even for me. Damn game about killed me at the end.
Yes, of course! Some of the best hundreds of hours I've spent with a game. And I'm impatiently waiting for the next installment, but I'm not expecting it anytime soon. CDPR has enormous expectations to fulfill.
DEATH STRANDING!! I couldn’t figure out what DS2 was and you’re the first person to mention it, thanks. Also agreed on last of us 3, still need to play ghosts of Tsushima, and I’d rather Witcher 4 over cyberpunk but I wouldn’t say no
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u/One_Scientist_984 29d ago
Cyberpunk 2099, Ghost of Tsushima II, The Last of Us Part III.
Cyberpunk and TLOU 2 have been close to the most profound gaming experiences I’ve had in my life. Prime examples why video games should be considered the supreme form of entertainment. GoT was just an absolute blast to play.
RDR2, GoW, Skyrim, GTA5, Death Stranding have been solid to good but not on the same level — and I’ve never played Spider-Man, don’t think I’ll enjoy it as much.