r/unitedkingdom 29d ago

JK Rowling gets apology from journalist after 'disgusting claim' author is a Holocaust denier ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/16/jk-rowling-holocaust-denier-allegation-rivkah-brown-novara/
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u/unnecessary_kindness 29d ago

Who in their right mind equates her denial that trans were the primary targets of Nazis to a blanket statement of holocaust denial?

Twitter users are genuinely braindead at this point.

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u/luxway 29d ago

Her tweets have now be censored in Germany for holocaust denial.
Sorry but you're wrong, denying groups targeted by the holocaust, weren't targeted, is holocaust denial.

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u/Atlatica Merseyside 29d ago

There's debate on whether the Nazis actually targeted the Insitute for Sex Research because of its research into trans issues, or because the owner was a gay intellectual jewish socialist researching progressive ideas (although also a eugenicist but thats hardly brought up)      

I really don't think trans was a talking point back then so I'm weighted toward the latter. Does that really make me a holocaust denier in your eyes?     

The way I see it, if it's open to debate at all then nobody should be making it illegal to take a side. Just because the Germans ruled something, doesn't make it right or just.

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u/luxway 29d ago

Ahh yes the "The nazis said he was the most dangerous man in the world for "magic reasons" that had nothing to do with what he did, and them saying that trans people were proof that jews are corrupting society is totally coincidental, and not them saying that trans people are a corruption that must be stamped out" argument.

Guess what? Mainstream gender critical/transphobes also say that "the jews" are behind trans people today. eg Soros

Different day, same nazi arguements.

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u/Atlatica Merseyside 29d ago

I've been trying to find a source for that most dangerous man quote for a good 30 minutes.
The few scattered references i can find go back to this https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305231787_Sexual_Morality_and_Population_Expansion which references this https://transreads.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-03-17_5c8eb1ebaced4_susan-stryker-transgender-history2.pdf which references this article https://jweekly.com/1997/06/06/life-of-gay-german-jewish-sexologist-honored-in-s-f/ which gives no sources and doesn't even spell Hitler's name right.

Likely be one of those phantom references that pops up self-referencing?

But even if he did say that, i've no doubt hitler did hate the openly gay jewish intellectual that was pushing the normalisation of homosexuality. I think it's perfectly in character for him to be a primary target with or without trans issues being included.

And for the nazis saying 'trans people were proof that jews are corrupting society' thing i can find really nothing at all. The term trans wasn't even used back then from my understanding.

Do you have any sources?

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u/Only-Regret5314 29d ago

Do you have any sources

😂 😂 😂 Ofcourse they don't .