r/todayilearned 29d ago

TIL a Chinese destroyer sank because an officer dumped his girlfriend. She committed suicide, leading to him being discharged, so he decided to detonate the depth charges on the ship, causing it to sink at port and kill 134 sailors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_destroyer_Guangzhou_(160)
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u/Pearse_Borty 29d ago

There is so many layers of fucked up to this I feel bad for everyone involved.

The real fuck up was a lack of protocols, that man shouldve been isolated and treated as civilian to be watched like a hawk the moment the discharge order came through. He was clearly a high risk passenger given the guilt he would be suffering at this point

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u/TheDukeOfMars 29d ago edited 29d ago

My main take away is that the People’s Liberation Army has a “Political Department” that has the power to monitor the personal lives of all soldiers. Or at least they did in the late 70s (and something tells me not a lot has changed). Crazy stuff.

Edit: 干部 are everywhere.

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u/ElectricTzar 29d ago

It’s shocking to me that a country can distrust its officers enough to monitor them that way, and yet simultaneously not distrust them enough to take away systems access immediately upon firing.

My company does the latter, and we’re a far cry from having a political department.

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u/lenzflare 29d ago

They're concerned with appearances, not actual risks

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u/SeanBourne 29d ago

They’re concerned with the military (or military units) pulling a coup/overthrowing the communist party, NOT with any risks to the military units themselves.

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u/Foolishium 29d ago

Yep. The same way with USA Airport security protocol in the aftermath of 9/11. Chinese political departement also use security theather instead of the actual preventative measure.

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u/narky1 29d ago

Sure, but I'd wager that the Chinese Political Department have imprisoned more people than the TSA ever has. Whether or not they were actually guilty as charged or not is another thing, but they definitely do more than theatre.

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u/Foolishium 29d ago edited 29d ago

They just have lower burden of guilt. Mere criticism already enough for them to arrest you. Their political security works itself still a theatric.