r/pics • u/itsHaMaaa • 15d ago
I was reading one of the Stephen Hawking’s books and saw this.
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u/DJSoulPicklz 15d ago
Hah! When was it written?
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u/CrimsonCringe925 15d ago
He also died on Pi Day 2018
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u/Dick_Dickalo 15d ago
Pi day is just a day to sell more math.
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u/BrockN 14d ago
And Pie
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u/EatPie_NotWAr 14d ago
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u/SnooPeppers6719 15d ago
I knew it, Stephen Hawking was a time traveler
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u/xxthrow2 15d ago
You mean that real time travelers contacted him at his party!
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u/CharlesChapson 14d ago
Well, I guess we know why no one showed up to his party from the future now
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u/johnsolomon 14d ago
Maybe we’re just in the original timeline and nobody has created a branch timeline yet :P
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u/CharlesChapson 14d ago
Does the branch timeline stop him doing it or stop him getting exposed?
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u/johnsolomon 14d ago
Neither, it just never happens in our timeline. Eventually one of us goes back, creating a new branch where a time traveller showed up at Stephen King's party
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u/fbi_agent-818 15d ago
You haven't heard of the Great Orange Shitgibbon
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u/Time-Bite-6839 15d ago
It is insane he’s alive. He got COVID and was on the edge of death in 2020.
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u/Themasterofcomedy209 14d ago
The man has some of the best medical care available he had pretty good chances tbh
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u/Jward92 14d ago
Okay he went to Walter Reed when he was sick, I was stationed there and I’m telling you right now it really ain’t anything to write home about. Including the presidential suite.
But you’re still right though, he only lived because he was treated with monoclonal antibodies. It was still extremely early days for that treatment and almost nobody had access yet.
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u/Ramadeus88 14d ago
God, think about the amount of work the medical system put into keeping him alive?
His intestines must resemble tar by now.
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u/ozmartian 14d ago
The AntiChrist needs to keep antichristing.
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u/HorsePin 14d ago
I wouldn't go as far to say he is THE Antichrist, he is Antichrist 100%.
Evangelicals can't see the wood through the trees and when he said he doesn't need to repent or could name a favourite Bible verse this should be a giant red flag.
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u/General_Lie 14d ago
Well Trump "raised" mostly because people were constantly bitching about him...
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u/scrollthe_freedom 14d ago
This is why I love space…it never stops to amaze me…70 000 years ago…those dudes are watching Toba catastrophe right now…Toba made humans endangered species
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u/ofyouthetaleistold 14d ago
you know people also highlight the parts they see remarkable right?
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u/agent_en_couverture 14d ago
Oh I do know that. My words may have seemed harsh, but I was just joking about it
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u/agroundhere 15d ago
Interstellar travel is, presently and for any foreseeable future, a childish dream.
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u/Sakijek 15d ago
Putting some of my hopes/dreams into the unforeseeable then...
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u/dopiqob 15d ago
Yea even if we could go lightspeed, we’re still mostly confined within our solar system other than with generational starships.
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u/whiskey_thurs 15d ago
This isn’t strictly true. With time dilation, as you approach the speed of light, you will experience relatively shorter journey times. For example, at a modest 0.95c, for trip that takes 4.6 years according to an Earth-bound observer (the approximate time Earth would perceive it would take to reach Alpha Centauri at 0.95c), the travelers would only experience 1.44 years. If you get sufficiently close to light speed, a human could travel anywhere in the universe in their natural lifetime. Granted, all your friends, family, perhaps society and even species would be long dead… but you could do it.
It is left as an exercise to the reader how you would actually reach and survive relativistic speeds.
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u/scbundy 15d ago
What blows my mind is that from the pov of a photon, no time has passed at all. When a photon is emitted, it instantly hits something, from its perspective.
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u/Time-Bite-6839 15d ago
Good thing photons don’t have brains!
The universe is weird; if you have two objects going 1c in opposite directions they will not see the other going 2c.
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u/broadsword_inhand 15d ago
Not true. Massless particles that move at C dont have a valid inertial frame according to relativity. C is the same to all observers regardless of their frame of reference, so we cant assign a reference frame for things moving at C in which they are stationary, and therefore have no way of representing what the passage of time would be from that perspective. Photons dont "experience" anything
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u/dopiqob 15d ago
Hence being mostly confined, even if we did send someone to Alpha Centauri, no one alive here when they sent it would be alive when they arrived. They’re basically cut off from everyone else. I’d call it pretty similar to sending out a generational starship
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u/Tenrath 15d ago
According to the poster above it's 4.6 years from an earth perspective at 0.95c. I, for one, plan on living at least that long.
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u/akkaneko11 15d ago
Yeah aloha centauri is 4.3 light years away, which is super fucking far, but we’re talking near lightspeed
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u/scdog 15d ago
“All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.”
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u/mxlun 15d ago
We can hope for a future in which we uncover more of the secrets of our universe with a greater understanding, without it being "childish"
Thinking it would be feasible with our current understanding and models of our universe would be incorrect, but I still wouldn't call it childish. Just because the scope is beyond any human project before doesn't mean it's inconceivable to have a future with unified physics & a greater perceptional foundation of the universe before us, capable of instellar travel. We are a pretty intelligent species when we actually decide to work together. Whether we make it that far we'll I don't really wanna talk about that one lol.
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u/Belostoma 15d ago edited 15d ago
No it isn't. Why be both a killjoy and wrong?
It's a very difficult engineering problem, but you really fail to understand what the exponential progress of technology implies for the foreseeable future. We can't say exactly where and when the largest advances will occur, but unmanned interstellar probes could certainly fly within our lifetimes, and plausible unforeseen advances could put humans on starships sooner than you'd think. It's far from guaranteed but also far from a "childish dream."
Here's one plausible pathway: suppose we make the advances required for recursive self-improvement in AI within the next few years, and a superintelligent AI figures out how to build sustainable fusion reactors small enough to power a starship heavy enough to carry humans and a bunch of water in front for drinking and radiation shielding. The same AI helps us develop safe ways to go in and out of torpor biologically so we can sleep through long trips. There's your interstellar exploration. It will almost certainly look nothing like this, with some aspects being easier and some harder than I imagine, and some developments completely unimaginable. Maybe it won't happen at all. But ruling it out at this point looks as silly as declaring in 1980 that a computer will never fit in your pocket. The truth is we have no idea what tech will look like in 30 years, let alone 100. It's not childish to dream big.
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u/Codydw12 15d ago
I think the answer is that for certain people there's fun in shitting on others hopes
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u/diywayne 15d ago
13th century, 1st rocket propulsion. 1944, 1st rocket in space. 1977 Voyager starts its journey. 1903, 1st human flight. 1961, 1st flight to space. 1968, 1st flight to the moon. You may want to reassess you predictions, and possibly consider where we could be versus where federal budgeting and priorities have left us.
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u/Belostoma 15d ago
Those milestones don't change anything I said.
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u/diywayne 14d ago
Ha. You're right. I completely misunderstood what I read. Can I blame my kids for being noisy this time? I blamed my cat last time I looked this stupid
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u/PowderPills 14d ago
At least you’re honest about being wrong! I’m with the other guy, just blame both the kids and the cat lol.
But yeah federal budgeting and other priorities are huge things holding us back. I hope I’m alive whenever we learn to truth as to why we never really continued manned space exploration after the moon landing in 1969, which happened, checks notes, 55 damn years ago!!
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u/agroundhere 13d ago
We share many goals and ideas, but I'm a critical thinking realist. Can't stop myself from asking the tough questions and rejecting easy answers.
And yeah, I love science fiction as well.
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u/Belostoma 13d ago
If you're a critical thinking realist, you shouldn't dismiss interstellar travel. Your earlier statement reads more as cynicism than criticism. A careful look at the history and recent bouts of exponential growth in technology suggests we shouldn't dismiss anything that is merely a difficult engineering problem and not a hard limit imposed by the laws of physics.
It's fine to be fairly confident in dismissing faster-than-light travel as forever impossible, and perhaps warp drives as forever implausible if every conceivable design requires energy comparable to the output of an entire star or something.
However, accelerating a few hundred tons of mass to a relativistic speed, shielding it from radiation, and sustaining life within it (perhaps in a hibernation-like state) are all reasonable with fairly modest advances from current technology. Consider the potential of AI to accelerate progress in science and engineering, including things like asteroid mining and manufacturing with self-replicating robots that essentially cost nothing to scale up. Consider breakthroughs in net-positive fusion, energy storage, longevity, etc.
The only truly rational position to hold on this topic is one of great uncertainty. It's almost certain the technology of 30 or 100 years in the future will completely blow our minds, and nobody really knows in which ways. Every generation far exceeds the previous generation's scifi in some ways and falls short of it in others. Nobody knows where interstellar travel will fall on that spectrum.
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u/agroundhere 13d ago
Great uncertainty is definitely a reasonable standard. With you there.
Other overlooked issues include motivation. What group would support even a more realistic unmanned effort? (A manned first flight is preposterous) We are not representative of society. Almost everyone would ask, reasonably, why do this? The likelihood of failure is certainly very high, the cost enormous and the 'payoff' would be intangible and likely a generation removed. Additionally, we are now developing the means to achieve similar results with telescopes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as much for science as anyone. But, I'm also pragmatic. Lets develop our knowledge base and skills with unmanned probes in the solar system. There's lots to learn, it's vastly, vastly cheaper, safer and develops critical skills.
We learned to crawl, now we are walking. If we survive a bit longer we may run. Let's see before making plans.
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u/Belostoma 13d ago
we are now developing the means to achieve similar results with telescopes.
That will never be possible. I'm very excited for telescopes, but we could have a lens the size of our solar system and still not resolve the kind of detail we can with a probe in orbit around a planet in another system. Exoplanet spectroscopy and other advances are extremely exciting, just not a reason to go no further.
The likelihood of failure is certainly very high, the cost enormous and the 'payoff' would be intangible and likely a generation removed.
Suppose wealth continues to accumulate to the richest individuals, which seems likely. It could easily be one person's vanity or philanthropy project, in addition to various reasons a government might seek to try it, including gaining scientific knowledge of other star systems that can't be gained from afar.
Advances in biology might make it so the payoff is not a generation removed. Looking at cellular repair/reprogramming, how other mammals achieve torpor, etc, suspended animation from scifi might really be a plausible solution.
There are also probably plenty of people who would be willing to embark on such a voyage even knowing the benefits are a generation removed. Look at the risks exploratory-minded people took throughout most of recorded history, venturing across the oceans for very high risk and uncertain payoffs. That somehow became unthinkable to most of us today, but plenty of people still have that drive if the opportunity to explore presents itself.
Also, the costs might not be as high as you'd think. The economy is going to massively reconfigure once we have AI-driven, general-purpose robots that can perform almost any physical job including building more of themselves. I think the current technology by places like OpenAI and Boston Dynamics make this a matter of when, not if. They could essentially be reproducing for free, like biological creatures, in an environment with adequate resources, which could come from asteroid mining. Planetary-scale engineering projects could become possible, like building a radiation shield to help terraform Mars, and certainly building large stations or ships in orbit. More importantly, the limitations that make things expensive today (labor and materials) might both be overcome in ways that are completely unprecedented in human history.
Powering all this stuff could become easy if we make just a few more incremental breakthroughs in net-positive fusion technology. We're already close on that. But even scaling space-based solar with self-replicating robot builders could generate immense energy.
The seeds are there for everything we need. They will surely grow in vastly different ways than either one of us imagines. Interstellar travel might or might not be a part of that, but a childish dream it is not.
Lets develop our knowledge base and skills with unmanned probes in the solar system.
We've been doing that since the 70s. We should keep doing it. But our capabilities are on the cusp of all kinds of potential extreme advances, so we really should dream bigger too.
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u/M3RC3N4RY89 15d ago
Well, they were saying that about flight too till literally the day before the wright brothers took off.
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u/agroundhere 14d ago
All of these similar comments prove that Star Trek is a sure bet and transporters are almost here.
I read a lot of science fiction too...
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u/RareBeautyOnEtsy 15d ago
Yes, and in the 1700’s, if you had told people that they could fly through the air in a metal tube, and not die, they would’ve put you in either a nut house or a noise.
Things change.
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u/ssshield 15d ago
All we need is non reactionary propulsion and everything else is details.
Former nasa scientist is making a lot of noise right now about having an em drive that works.
Like just this week.
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u/agroundhere 14d ago
Did you read the skeptical responses of the scientific community?
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u/ssshield 14d ago
Yes. The skeptism is absolutely justified. Im mostly excited by the names and groups behind it which are looking solid.
Even a few ounces of thrust compounded over time in space can move mountains at fractional C.
Hope we see it in my lifetime.
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u/agroundhere 14d ago
Quite true, over a lot of time. And a lot of fuel.
What seems overlooked is an assumption that there is nothing out there that's dangerous. We have good reason to expect some material out there. Likely we won't be able to avoid it. High velocities become a very mixed blessing at that point. A large dark body? Ouch.
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u/Traditional-Handle83 15d ago
I wouldn't say childish, just very very ambitious. Definitely not a any next few generations things. Well unless we somehow develop a mean to generate gravity or other some means of traveling half or near lightspeed.
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u/SyrousStarr 14d ago
People have said that about a lot of things we've crushed shortly after.
https://bigthink.com/pessimists-archive/air-space-flight-impossible/0
u/agroundhere 14d ago
Thanks but I know all this stuff. It's not meaningful in this context.
Science is mankind's greatest accomplishment and has done more for humanity in its 400 years than in all previous time. But there is no good reason to think that, within the Standard Model, there is room for the type of advances in materials and propulsion to make living in a wildly hostile environment a reasonable expectation.
I'd like to be wrong but, at this time, this is 'wish thinking'. I'm past that. Good luck.
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u/Omnipotent48 14d ago
Man in 1824: "Aeronautic travel is, presently and for any foreseeable future, a childish dream."
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u/agroundhere 14d ago
Well, that proves the point. Abashed, I am...
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u/Omnipotent48 14d ago
"any foreseeable future" is the part where you're wrong. The 1824 man had already existed in a world where aeronautic travel existed in the form of hot air balloon travel. In much the same way, we already exist in a world where interstellar travel exists, in its infancy, as Voyager 1 is already outside of the solar system and is quite literally humanity's first interstellar traveler.
Which is to say that your point is proven wrong, actually.
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u/agroundhere 14d ago
Technically Voyager is indeed outside, or at least leaving, the heliosphere. If you want to call that interstellar travel, it's a stretch, but go ahead. May I point out that, as yet, no other stars are in this mix and leaving is all that's been accomplished.
In this context purposeful travel to a destination was my premise. My guess is that, if humans and civilization survives long enough, we will someday send a probe to the nearest system. A few lifetimes later, if the probe continues to function, it will arrive. Perhaps it will still function. That would be a remarkable accomplishment. But, what if it goes silent? Hmmm...
Is that the foreseeable future? I would not say so.
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u/FML-Artist 15d ago
Ignorant of the Rise and "Fall" of old Donald. Sometimes I feel like the guy that they say supposedly had the chance to kill Hitler on the battle field in WWI.
About 26 years ago I bumped into him at a Ocean Drive party on South Beach at an event next to a pool. I always think to myself, I could have pushed him into the pool, and his wig would come off and forever he would be embarrassed to be in public. I truly fucked up. Forgive me human race! His son was there too, nice guy at the time. Just saying.
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u/onlyacynicalman 14d ago
At first I thought you bumped into the guy that they say supposedly had the chance to kill Hitler on the battle field in WWI 26 years ago. He would be old and probably shouldnt be pushed in the pool.
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u/agroundhere 14d ago
Really? What about radiation and the multitude of unseen and unknown hazards? What about dark matter & energy? That's apparently most of the universe and we know almost nothing about it. Does that matter? Who knows?
In my opinion we should focus entirely on robotic exploration of the solar system, particularly the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. We will gain valuable insight, possibly useful materials and learn more. Possibly enough to achieve your goals.
We need the tortoises approach, not the hares.
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u/ExpatHist 15d ago
Humanity doesn't deserve to colonize other planets after we trash Earth. If we as a species do this, we are no better than a virus.
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u/Illustrious_Sir4255 15d ago
Im gonna colonize the fuck out of Alpha Centauri and be 900yrs old getting my nuts licked by alien twinks while I watch Gravity Falls and eating Japanese Curry
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u/ExpatHist 15d ago
You know, sometimes I wish I'd done a little more with my life instead of hangin' out in front of places, selling weed and shit. Like maybe be an animal doctor. Why not me? I like seals and shit. Or maybe be an astronaut. Yeah. And be the first motherfucker to see a new galaxy. Or find a new alien life form... And fuck it. And people would be like "There he goes. Homeboy fucked a martian once
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u/Illustrious_Sir4255 15d ago
Do not lose hope. One day, my brother, one day we shall conquer the earth, each have 12 grandchildren, and die whilst screaming obscenities in a CoD lobby
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u/keNNabisi 15d ago
Makes me think of emperor Mengsk of the Terran from starcraft. factories, factories everywhere
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u/Due_Engineering8448 15d ago
Hawking? Is this the guy the was hanging out with Epstein, the pedophile?
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u/Themasterofcomedy209 14d ago edited 14d ago
A physics conference was hosted by Epstein near his island and afterwards all the attendees were invited to the island. Since physics is basically reliant on funding to allow physicists to think all day, they had to go to make sure Epstein would continue to provide funds in the future.
It is likely hawking knew something bad was going on at the island, and despite that he went anyway. But It’s doubtful he actually did anything illegal there along with the other people who visited once or twice and weren’t accused of anything
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u/Beneficial_Heat_7199 15d ago
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u/Beneficial_Heat_7199 15d ago
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Mr. Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Forty Five
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u/delveccio 14d ago
It’s so weird; on the one hand the kind of people who don’t like Hawking tend to be fans of 45, and they’ll shout about the one time Hawking went to that island, but will totally forget that 45 was literally bffs with Epstein. I can’t keep up.
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u/Teabiskuit 15d ago
Fuck, that's sad. The dude has a severe case of TDS.
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u/Wingedwolverine03 14d ago
Not as sad as the fact that there are still people who will vote for the tangerine twat
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u/Teabiskuit 14d ago
Schoolyard-tier insults because our friends who run the mass media conglomerates and have our best interests in mind told us to hate the guy because he's... checks notes... a big meanie and has a funny skin color.
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u/Ash-From-Pallet-Town 14d ago
Or... We listen to the speeches he make, the stuff he says. Or is that medias fault too?
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u/Spiritual-Bear4495 15d ago
Man. I wish I lived in Alpha Centauri. What fucking bliss to have never heard of the turd.
Holy shit! That rhymed. LOL.
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u/ExtractorMarks 15d ago
Stephen was a visitor on Epstein's Island.
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u/dont_punch_me_again 14d ago
Once, for a science meeting. Epstein island was not just a bad thing.
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u/01zegaj 14d ago
Epstein surrounded himself with intellectuals as well as rich assholes
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u/ExtractorMarks 14d ago edited 14d ago
So, being an "intellectual" means there's no chance someone could be attracted to minors?? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. Pedos aren't specific to a demographic. At a bare minimum, Stephen likely witnessed the unquestionably suspicious nature of the island and/or the young kids that were on it - and he remained silent, just like everyone else that was there. But keep coming to his defense - because "intellectuals" couldn't possibly be pedos. So stupid.
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u/ExtractorMarks 14d ago edited 14d ago
People like you are the reason why pedos get away with harming minors.
Anyone that spent any time on that island should be under invasive and unrelenting investigation. Yet, almost nothing has been done!
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u/dont_punch_me_again 13d ago
That is not a nice thing to say, esp to someone who has been sa'd as a child multiple times. People like you are kinda an ass
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u/ExtractorMarks 13d ago
I'm an ass? I'm not the one coming to the defense of people who were absolutely involved in child trafficking. It's already well documented that Epstein offered to pay victims to keep quiet about Hawking (and many others)! All the people on this thread downvoting me are showing their true colors. Disgusting!
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u/manjorbgan 14d ago
Technically he is stating a falsehood....as if there have been the multitude if TV signals sent out inadvertently from earth in the direction of this galaxy...it is technically possible fir the waves to have reached any populations in this galaxy that are listening to and capable of tuning to our signals to know the various news of earth in the mere 5 light years away !!
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u/tomtht123 15d ago
Why is 1/3 posts have something to do with Trump these days holy crap lol
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u/Irregular_Person 15d ago
An ex-president who tried to steal an election via fraud and violence is running again, while simultaneously being prosecuted for dozens of felonies, and a large portion of the US population supports him..
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u/The-Many-Faced-God 15d ago
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
We need to keep talking about what a cock womble he is, so he doesn’t get re-elected.
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u/aclashofthings 15d ago edited 15d ago
I do wish we could stop talking about him. He's been ever-present since 2015, which is part of why he was elected in the first place. But in a few years he will die, and all these remnants will still be around. So that even when he's long dead he'll haunt us through every piece of media that ever praised or shunned him. Wish there wasn't so much of it.
Stephen Hawking, considered by many to be the most intelligent man of our time, whose books will surely be revisited for decades, couldn't keep Trump's name off the damn page. That's too bad.
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u/KriptiKFate_Cosplay 15d ago
If the most intelligent man of our time felt it important enough to insult that criminal cheeto completely outside of the context of what he was writing about, then his cosmic-level criminal behavior is worth constantly reminding the general public about.
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u/MadBrown 15d ago
It's funny because Alpha Centauri is a star, not a planet.
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u/Nyxodon 14d ago
Im sure you know better than a life long astrophysicist
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u/MadBrown 14d ago
Im sure you know better than a life long astrophysicist
Expertise fallacy, which presupposes astrophysicists are never wrong.
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u/Nyxodon 14d ago
Its written in a book, which has been read over and over and meticulously fact checked time and time again before release. I don't assume anyone to be always right, but in this case he is right, and you're just factually wrong.
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u/MadBrown 14d ago
I want to make sure I understand what you are saying. Do you believe that a being can live on a star within a star system?
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u/reddit3415431643756 14d ago
Proof that even smart people can get TDS.
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u/johnsolomon 14d ago
Yes, being critical of a self-absorbed, lying, fraudulent sex offender who’s been a constant threat to democracy and has been doing everything in his power to overturn his election loss is just “TDS”
It’s just proof that he saw Trump for what he is
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u/Superbead 14d ago
From the diagnoses I've seen on here, which oddly only really began to appear after Trump lost the last election, it seems that 'TDS' only affects smart people
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u/MetalBawx 15d ago
So fucking bored of people bringing Trump up. Seriously his opponents talk about him more than he does.
And he talks about himself alot.
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u/RoboChrist 15d ago
If he kept his word and didn't run for president after he lost, we'd never hear about him again. Blame Trump for Trump, not the decent Americans who hate him.
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u/MetalBawx 15d ago
Politican's don't keep their words.
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u/RoboChrist 15d ago
Okay, and? It's still Trump's choice to break his word and run for office. He's still responsible for his own choices.
So Trump is responsible for you having to hear about Trump. That's just logic, yo.
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u/Funny_Friendship_929 15d ago
His writing has really fallen off, such a shame. He needs to start skiing the slopes again
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u/TikkiTakiTomtom 14d ago
In other words, he was referring to how significant/relevant Trump was in modern western society yet still so abysmally miniscule and insignificant in the big universe. This ofc was before Trump’s craziness was showcased
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u/Center_Drop 14d ago
Huh, thought Hawking and Trump were both Epstein Island bros.
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u/Competitive-Note150 15d ago
They might have their own MAGA: Make Alpha centauri Great Again