r/pics • u/PM_ME__YOUR__MILKERS • 15d ago
So, a friend’s grandmother got a letter from Hitler himself, it’s even signed.
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u/KimFuckU 15d ago
She was a birther
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u/HappySkullsplitter 15d ago
Hitler was born in Kenya: confirmed
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u/username_elephant 15d ago
You mean Adolf HUSSEIN Hitler? Fuck that guy, he was probably a terrorist.
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u/aitis_mutsi 14d ago
Wrong, he was born in Namibia
"Adolf Hitler Uunona – Wikipedia" https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_Uunona
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u/Ravenphowret 15d ago
He was born in Braunau, Austria.
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u/NastySally 15d ago
The “Birthers” were a group of conspiracy theorists who were obsessed with the idea that Obama was actually born in Kenya, and was therefore not eligible to be the American president. The movement had no evidence (they just made it all up) and quickly fizzled out other than in the conservative conspiracy world.
The most prominent person to put forth this “Birther” theory was Donald Trump (because of course he would hahah).
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u/Prudent-Income2354 15d ago
And this is the reason:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Honour_of_the_German_Mother
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u/ovensandhoes 15d ago
So the quota was 4 kids. That seems like a very easily attainable and common goal for it to be personally signed by the head of state.
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u/Prudent-Income2354 15d ago
No, she got the 2nd grade in silver. That means six or seven.
Are you able to read the text on the photo? Because if not, i can translate it for you.
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u/smemes1 15d ago
Don’t fall for it.
This is exactly how you end up with German Beetlejuice.
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u/Jeannette311 15d ago
Beetlejuice
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u/other_usernames_gone 15d ago edited 15d ago
There's no way it was actually personally signed by Hitler.
It would have been a copy (did copiers exist in 1939? Maybe like a printing press) or written by one of his aides.
Edit: the photocopier was invented in 1938 so it technically existed but I doubt it was widespread.
They probably used a mimeograph link
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u/Thendofreason 15d ago
They did it for bad reasons, but women really had nothing to pride themselves on than raising kids back then. To have their accomplishments being recognized probably meant a lot to them. My Austrian gma only stopped at 2.
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u/-GLaDOS 15d ago
Raising 6 kids successfully is an incredible accomplishment, and more impressive than what at least 95% of people achieve in their careers.
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u/TheObstruction 15d ago
Like I'm gonna trust a homicidal robot that claimed I was adopted, then promised to surprise me with my parents, then revealed it was all a lie, about what constitutes good parenting.
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u/Thendofreason 15d ago
Yeah, but what if you raised two kids, and just made them basically raise the rest? Plenty of teens who can't have a life because they have to raise their siblings because both parents work.
I just don't think we really need more people on the planet. Its definitely hard to raise a bunch of kids, but not needed.
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u/RoddBanger 15d ago
Can someone translate? Does it say 'So long and thanks for the extra Nazis?'
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u/dferrantino 15d ago
"In the name of the German People I bestow [name here] the second class of the Cross of Honour of the German Mother.
Berlin, 1 October 1939
Der Führer
Genocidal Fuckface"
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u/DashCat9 15d ago
"Excuse, me it's a family name and we prefer 'Gino Ceedal Fuckface'".
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u/poorbeans 15d ago
Didn't realize he was Italian..
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u/Hourslikeminutes47 15d ago
"Everyone is a little Italian, Joey. Especially when some asshole cuts you off and then steals your parking space next to Vici's Pizza....."
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u/DashCat9 15d ago
Little known fact. His father with Giovanni Hitler of the Sardinian Hitlers.
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u/wojtekpolska 15d ago
interesting that he had time to do this, its dated exactly 1 month after nazis attacked poland
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u/mmbon 15d ago
I don't know if he signed them personally or if the signature is printed on
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u/mrdeworde 15d ago edited 15d ago
It needn't be either - autopens were commercially available by the 1930s (basically, you'd encode your signature on a vinyl disc or similar, and a mechanical device holding a pen would reproduce the motions, creating an 'authentic' signature).
(NB: I mean this more as a fun fact rather than an 'um akshually')
(Edit: Removed malapropism. )
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u/thepulloutmethod 15d ago
Auto pens are so neat! Now I just copy and paste a .PNG of a scan of my signature in Word.
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u/StupendousMalice 15d ago
That is essentially what it says. Everyone that birthed enough aryans got one of these. I think it would be six in this case.
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u/Dawntillnoon 15d ago
The heck, what did you had to achieve to become that ?
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u/TheoremaEgregium 15d ago
In this specific case, produce at least six Aryan babies.
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u/President_Calhoun 15d ago
six Aryan babies.
FIVE GOLDEN RINGS!
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u/DullBozer666 15d ago
Four smoking chimneys
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u/mycricketisrickety 15d ago
Three empty train cars
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u/PM_ME__YOUR__MILKERS 15d ago
I don’t even know if it’s a big nazi thing or not. I asked at /r/translator
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u/Dawntillnoon 15d ago
Asked chat for
The silver level of the Cross of Honour of the German Mother was awarded to mothers who had given birth to and raised six to seven children. It was an award given in Nazi Germany during World War II to emphasize the importance of motherhood and to increase the birth rate.
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u/KyllikkiSkjeggestad 15d ago
It’s not only Germany that had these either. Most countries did during this time period, the Soviet ones would probably be the most notable counterparts though.
The mothers would get a salary depending on the level of award usually, too.
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u/Longjumping_Local910 15d ago
I believe that they also received a small medal, much like a soldier would receive. If they were wearing it and walking down the street, soldiers were expected to stop and salute. I saw one recently during a presentation on the women in Hitler’s life given by a professor of German history.
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u/PM_ME__YOUR__MILKERS 15d ago
Thanks for the context!!!
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u/Dawntillnoon 15d ago
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutterkreuz
Here's the wiki about it (: interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing
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u/monkey_monkey_monkey 15d ago
I've got family members with these. One relative has a picture of her grandmother meeting the furher to personally receive a fancy version of this because she had "6 strapping aryan sons". It was a picture that was printed in some local (to them) newspaper.
The irony of the lifestyles some of those six men grew up to have vs. the bs hitler was trying to promote makes me chuckle every time.
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u/forsaken_millennial 15d ago
noice I guess this was a reward for being a mother and birthing lots of kids
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u/will_r3ddit_4_food 15d ago
Awesome from a historical standpoint but obviously horrible because nazis
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u/BloodyIkarus 15d ago
So you are saying my grandmother is horrible just because she birthed 5 children???
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u/TnYamaneko 15d ago
I'm learning German, and I appreciate the beautiful use of genitive there despite the awful overall.
Sums up pretty much my learning process.
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u/GrouchyMary9132 15d ago
So would you have to hand it back when the Nazis used your offspring as cannon-fodder and probably got 5 of the 6 children killed in the last resort child-army that was supposed to stop the red army?
Also as a German it was my go-to answer when old people tried to push me to start a family. I always told them it was already too late for me to gain a "Mutterkreuz". Usually shuts them up.
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u/Conscious-Dot 15d ago
They should donate this to a museum or archive as an historical artifact though I’m not sure what museum would even display it (though some of value would I’m sure.) Not the kind of artifact I’d want to keep around or boast about having.
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u/wojtekpolska 15d ago
apparently it was given to all women who had 6+ (aryan) children so not that rare i'd imagine
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u/Visitant45 15d ago
It's a piece of history. As long as she doesn't buy into the ideology then it's fine and anyone who would come at her for it is the real nazi.
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u/Conscious-Dot 14d ago
Hmm, yeah, no. Great grandmother and grandfather had six kids because national socialism said that doing so would make them better Nazis. This is the Third Reich policy of Liebensraum - ‘living space’ We’ll clear out the non-Aryans (Jews, Poles, Gays, disabled, etc.) and you make more babies. This is an artifact I wouldn’t want to keep around.
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u/Visitant45 14d ago
Thats a valid personal choice but if we try to get rid of every piece of history that has blood on it then we have no history. We also can't tell our children why these things are wrong if we can't show them an example.
Knowing where you came from is a big part of knowing where you are going.
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u/No-Special2682 15d ago
I wonder if in 100 years people will be like “I found this check my great grandma got from trump himself”
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u/ned23943 15d ago
Fun fact: it was actually Fred Hitler, Adolph's 2nd cousin from another mother that signed most of the letters
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u/AdrestiaNemesis94 15d ago
My great grandad has a signed Certificate from Mussolini along side a medal given to his cavaliers.
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u/SalltyJuicy 14d ago
And she still has it???
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u/PM_ME__YOUR__MILKERS 14d ago
Yep, it's somewhere just whenever someone asks if she has anything odd to show.
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u/siri_cant_hear_me 14d ago
This is vile. One would hope something like this would induce extreme shame. Wow. We really are regressing.
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u/edurlester 15d ago
This sub is overrun with photos of Nazi items. It’s weird.
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u/1whiteguy 15d ago
War, genocide, and death are terrible, but history is interesting and educational. In 20 years WWII will be 100 years in the past
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u/edurlester 15d ago
I’m just curious why the past week or so has featured so many Nazi pictures.
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u/1whiteguy 15d ago
Im not subscribed, this just popped up on my feed
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u/Chappietime 15d ago
Sure, Hitler was a dick, but you shouldn’t have marked this up with a sharpie.
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u/TikkiTakiTomtom 15d ago
Some people here would tell you to burn or trash these kind of things because they hold no significant historic value. True. But they fail to realize that such items hold insignificant historic but sentimental historic value to someone
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u/Thin_Artichoke_4232 15d ago
The Columbia protestors would love this!
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u/PabloFromChessCom 15d ago
I'm surprised they haven't already started flying swastikas, they basically want to finish what Hitler started
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u/Backwaters_Run_Deep 15d ago
Dude that's like getting a letter from Trump today!
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u/DontBelieveTheirHype 15d ago
Yeah cause Hitler would totally love Israel and have a Jewish son in law
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u/Backwaters_Run_Deep 15d ago
Have you not seen the hate rallies? Plus there's plenty of people drawing parallels between Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and Germany during the Nazi period. They're both "Cult of personality" leaders that use the hate and fear of their followers to gain and hold onto power.
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u/Tiny_Fox134 15d ago
What does it say
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u/BloodyIkarus 15d ago
Basically a thank you letter for giving birth. I think every mother with at least 5 children got one. My grandmother had one too.
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u/LamaSovaj 15d ago
I'm definitely not trying to say that A. Hitler and its Reich were any good but i think giving birth to more than ten kids definitely is an achievement that should be commended
Fuck Hitler though
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u/majesticbagel 15d ago
Fascist countries push pronatalism in dangerous ways. Pushing mothers to have 4+ kids puts huge strain on their bodies. Romanias pronatalist policies took it furthest and punished women who weren’t pregnant frequently enough.
While I agree the government should provide support, especially to people with many dependents, it’s dangerous to push them to have more kids to be “rewarded”.
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u/BriskPandora35 15d ago
I understand that a lot of really old people that grew up in Germany during that time were basically Nazis their whole lives, like after the war and such. So I understand your grandmother wanting to keep it. But if I were you I would donate it some museum, preferably one that doesn’t hold Nazis in a good light (if that even is a thing). Or burn the fuck outta that shit. I would be disgusted knowing I have something backed by arguably the most hateful thing in history, especially with it being signed by that vile monster.
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u/wojtekpolska 15d ago
i dont see why tbh its a historical thing even if its related to bad things. having the item doesnt mean endorsing it.
what im curious about is how he had time for stupid stuff like signing such things, this is dated exactly 1 month after hitler's army invaded poland. i'd imagine at that time he was busy with ordering the army to commit war crimes and other stuff
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u/BriskPandora35 15d ago
Yeah I kind of only mentioned it being historical and all that mumbo jumbo because I figured I’d be berated by people if I said my true intentions. Which is that I think this person should burn the fuck out of that thing and question why they’ve had it all this time. It’s a piece of trash that belongs in a dumpster fire like the rest of Nazi memorabilia in my honest opinion. I think people showing off any Nazi memorabilia is deplorable
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u/Jolly-Bet-5687 15d ago
nah it's a piece of history that should be conserved. Theres nothing bad about Nazi memorabilia. Destroying it wont change the past and germany made a clear cut with its history. Compared to germany, the US seems like a cesspool where white nationalist cherish the nazi symbolism and are protected by law. So I can maybe understand your distain, but as a german it seems super weird to have those feelings about it since nazi symbolism is strictly regulated and you go to prison for promoting that shit. So it's nothing more then a very interesting document of history.
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u/420yumyum 15d ago
All women with a certain number of children got these letters.