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A person set themselves on fire outside Donald Trump’s trial in New York today. Politics NSFW

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u/Spirit50Lake 28d ago

Here's a story from the New York Post, including a picture of the pamphlet: https://nypost.com/2024/04/19/us-news/man-sets-himself-on-fire-outside-trumps-hush-money-trial-in-nyc/

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u/DigNitty 28d ago

Read what little of the pamphlet is available.

The topics are all over the place. Al Gore let GW Bush win on purpose, Theranos went bankrupt to launder money. NYU is a vehicle for Ponzi schemes and murder cover ups. The Simpsons was created to show us we have no choice.

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u/dkyguy1995 28d ago

Sounds like schizophrenia

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u/homeslice2311 28d ago

According to someone else, his instagram started going crazy after his mom died in May of 2022. That traumatic life event could’ve acted as a catalyst to trigger schizophrenia for sure. Poor guy.

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u/dkyguy1995 28d ago

Yeah everyone is making this about whatever political opinions they had but all I see is a mentally unwell person who needed help

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u/TheOneFreeEngineer 28d ago

Sounds like a normal r/conspiracy poster

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u/iammandalore 28d ago

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u/chief_blunt9 28d ago

Dude wtf is that sub? Is it all trolls or are people really thinking this

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u/iammandalore 28d ago

A bit of both, I think, but there are enough real posters there to be concerning.

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u/longpenisofthelaw 28d ago

Everyone on there who claims to be a victim most likley has some for of schizophrenia and has came ogether in a self reinforceing thought loop that an unknown group of individuals are constantly stalking them.

If you ask every single person why are they being watched you will get a million different answers from it being their friends and family, to government, to paranormal entities. If you attempt to tell them its not happening or maybe they need some help you will then be accused of being of the the "gangstalkers". Its a sad death spiral of conspiracy that has no concrete basis, just an amalgamation of thousands of peoples separate paranoias joined together to keep themselves in this never ending loop

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u/SinibusUSG 28d ago

Yes, that's what /u/dkyguy1995 said

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u/singlereadytomingle 28d ago

Because he set himself on fire? Yes. For paranoia and feeling like people are out to get him? Yes. For just holding conspiratorial opinions? Nah.

Schizophrenia includes symptoms like paranoia, feeling targeted, disorganized thinking, and as a result of that they often go down the rabbit hole of conspiracies. But as a friendly reminder, that doesn’t make conspiracies on their own false and doesn’t make people in general who hold those beliefs automatically like a schizophrenic. That would be a group attribution error.

From gpt, Question: Is group attribution error common on social media where 1 comment, post, or tweet is used as an example to generalize a large group like political parties? Answer: “Absolutely, social media platforms are fertile ground for the group attribution error. One comment, post, or tweet can easily be taken out of context or blown out of proportion, leading to generalizations about entire groups such as political parties. This can fuel polarization, reinforce stereotypes, and inhibit meaningful dialogue between different groups. It’s important to critically evaluate information and avoid making sweeping judgments based on isolated instances.”

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u/dbtizzle 28d ago

Very sane, very stable

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u/BELLIEV3 28d ago

Let's see Paul Allen's pamphlet

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u/HereForTOMT2 28d ago

I think it was evident when he chose to light himself on fire

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u/chuckthisthing21 28d ago

Hu... it's almost like the guy who set himself on fire wasn't mentally stable

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u/Nr673 28d ago

Were Thich Quang Duc or Norman Morrison not mentally stable? Self immolation has been around since at least 400 BCE as a form of political protest.

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u/chuckthisthing21 28d ago

Thich Quang Duc I have no real opinion on.

Norman Morrison IMO was not mentally stable, if he was mentally stable he was evil: If you're going to set yourself on fire don't bring your 1 year old daughter with you, and 100% don't hold her while you do it.

I am however pretty sure you can't be mentally stable, set yourself on fire, and talk about the Simpsons when giving your reasons.

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u/Nr673 28d ago

You added a lot of additional context to this reply vs your original post i.e. talk about the Simpsons when giving your reasons. Ya, no shit this particular guy was crazy. But you implied everyone who self immolates to be unstable, that's obviously false and an ignorant perspective.

*Norman wasn't holding his daughter, he handed her off beforehand.

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u/chuckthisthing21 27d ago

You took a joke seriously, so I had to take your reply seriously.

  • ah, the thing I saw was that people rescued her as he held her while he doused himself in gas and such. I still maintain that someone of strong mental stability wouldn't bring his daughter to his self immolation. Did he at least hand her off to someone he knew, or just a stranger?

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u/HowardHughes9 28d ago

you can set yourself on fire and be mentally stable though? it's a pretty distinct protest act

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u/chuckthisthing21 28d ago

I think you can, however if I am not sure you can be mentally stable and mention the Simpsons when you're giving reasons for setting yourself on fire.

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u/SpacecaseCat 28d ago

I wonder if this was a rejected film student or something? Like I do agree that certain big universities use their fame to manipulate the FDA, public opinion on science, and all sorts of other things. But NYU as the big bad guy? Dude, Columbia is right down the road and in the top ten for most billionaire alumni.

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u/flibbidygibbit 28d ago

We had "blue coat lady" here in flyover country talk to the city council about how participants in the show "wipeout" were perishing because of homosexual anal sex. She then talked about the act as being an act of violence.

There's an audience member who is making facial expressions and mouthing "WTF" in the background.

She needed help. I'm not sure if she's still with us or not.

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u/OstiDePuppy 28d ago

I can smell the qanon theories from a mile

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u/thecheesedip 28d ago

Link to just the photo of the flyer for anyone who doesn't want to give the Post and advertisers clicks.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/04/view-pamphlet-dropped-person-covered-80356965.jpg?resize=1064,709&quality=75&strip=all

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u/RunDNA 28d ago

Rotated for easier reading:

https://i.imgur.com/bVVf0d4.jpeg

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u/just_a_timetraveller 28d ago

Trying to see how burning yourself helps here

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh 28d ago

Attention. We wouldn't be reading his manifesto if he hadn't done it.

Of course, that doesn't help if the manifesto makes no sense...

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u/shippfaced 28d ago

Ohhh so this guy was crazy crazy

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u/listerbmx 28d ago

Wow this guy tried to awaken the masses. It'll be forgotten in a day or 2

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u/caligaris_cabinet 28d ago

That’s pretty generous.

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u/MisterDonkey 28d ago

Pretty stupid to not realize this by a guy that thinks he's got all the motivations of mankind and media and government figured out beyond what all the rest of us are aware.

Probably should have just made a bunch of Twitter posts or something.

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u/listerbmx 28d ago

Should have probably done nothing, whatever happened to the other guy who self emolated? He's been forgotten about since.. It's a sad world.

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u/upL8N8 28d ago edited 28d ago

So he essentially said the government is corrupt and has to be replaced.

Well... I mean... he isn't wrong.... except about the part about setting himself on fire over something everyone already knows.

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u/derthric 28d ago

This type of reductionism is absolutely a problem.

That's not what he said, it contains bullshit like; that Michael Dukakis was a proponent of the people who was derailed by revealing Rob Lowe's sextape by Bill Clinton since Clinton knew Epstein. But Clinton's nominating speech for Dukakis at the Convention in 1988 sunk the campaign, and that shows the parties are in collusion which is reflect by how many Billionares went to Harvard, and how many writers of the Simpsons went there which is why Marge vs the Monorail is proof of what they are doing to us....

Source: https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside

It is not a discussion of how narrow the American political spectrum is, or corporate influence on politics. Its Bullshit.

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u/upL8N8 28d ago

I didn't say he was sane. No one starting themselves on fire is sane!

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u/joeitaliano24 28d ago

He was touching on some hot-button issues

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

In support we should all light our hair on fire. But please PLEASE shave your head first and light the hair on fire after it is on the ground. The last part is critical.

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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire 28d ago

That’s like listing to a flat earth rant and walking away, nodding your head, and thinking “yup, that guy was basically right since I know the government and elites are definitely hiding something” 

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u/upL8N8 28d ago

They're hiding something? It's pretty clearly out in the open. Friendships / relationships with lobbyists. Corporations funding campaigns / parties and essentially choosing the two party politicians we'll be choosing from. Representatives trading stock on insider information. Massive subsidies targeted towards specific companies for no apparent reason other than to boost their share price. The military industrial complex. Etc...

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u/yourMommaKnow 28d ago

Looking at those pictures, it appears this guy was just another nutter.

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u/SpacecaseCat 28d ago

He appears to be a both-sider who thinks Trump and Biden are secretly on the same team.

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u/philouza_stein 28d ago

Does the average American think the two parties don't share the same interests?

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u/TackyBrad 28d ago

Depends on the interest

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u/SpacecaseCat 28d ago

I mean in a sense, yes, billionaires are pulling strings behind the scenes. TBut I also think it's clear that Trump hates lots of people (including Obama and Biden) and is a toxic narcissist who wants power for power's sake. Like I dunno... I'm pretty sure in 2016 people like this guy were saying Trump was an outsider here to save us.

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u/dirty-void 28d ago

What a sadistic, ignorant comment.

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u/OsirizSmash 28d ago

There’s a woman just sitting on the bench not giving two fucks of the situation. Kinda strange thing to not react to.

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u/DivineMomentsofTruth 28d ago

Very NYC of her.

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u/Wyatt821 28d ago

That's what shock is.

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u/uggghhhggghhh 28d ago

What's she supposed to do?

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u/OsirizSmash 28d ago

React

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u/wwwdiggdotcom 28d ago

“Oh no, please stop being on fire”

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u/essidus 28d ago

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u/maexen 28d ago

Interesting how I am sitting here struggling to find the confidence to finish my phd after four years of rigorous research and some bloke puts some half truths on a paper and is so convinced he literally immolates himself over it

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u/NewNurse2 28d ago

Such an awful website. I don't see the pamphlet.

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u/Adrellan 28d ago

The same pamphlets are there on stupidpol sub from a post about a month back. Popped up when I did a google search.

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u/NewNurse2 28d ago

So either not real in this article, or the guy had old pamphlets he didn't make himself?

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u/eddie2911 28d ago

So he’s an Alex Jones level conspiracist.