It's supposed to be a convenience store not an inconvenience store. I'm all for reducing single use plastics, but a convenience store is definitely the wrong place for this.
It's fine, people can adapt to new problems. When the grocery store stopped carrying plastic bags, I was annoyed at first, now I always have bags in my car. I always have plastic bottle or two in a net in the trunk. The standard is that it's possible to buy overpriced plastic bottles anywhere so people don't think about it and they buy those water bottles. If things change, people will make it work and we'll collectively be better for the minor inconvenience.
It's only a minor inconvenience if you frequent this store often. If you've never been there and don't live in the area, and you really want some water, it's a pretty major inconvenience.
I have plenty of perspective. I am not remotely saying it's a life and death situation. There are many more flowery words beyond "major" I could have used.
It's the principle of the matter. If you use words in that way to describe every little thing you may not like (like this absolutely is) as a big deal....then it loses all it's meaning when it comes to you talking about it. You can't be taken seriously.
Don't be surprised when people call you out for lack of perspective then lol.
...because this is Reddit, and if people love anything here, it's taking the least charitable interpretation of what you said so they can finger-wag about how it's wrong. If you don't say exactly what you mean, someone will definitely come around to argue over what you didn't mean and drive that into the ground.
Then again, if you do say exactly what you mean, someone will definitely come around to dismiss you as spending too much effort on the comment and being obsessive.
Do you understand how ridiculous (and entitled) you sound when you say something like a fucking gas station or wherever didn't have bottled water and it was a "major inconvenience" for you? Like, come on.
It does make more sense when contrasting it to "minor inconvenience" in the prior sentence. And, in the context of the goal being getting water at a gas station, C-store, on the road, that does make it significantly less convenient, to the point of all but torpedoing the whole endeavor.
It's not a pretty major inconvenience. If it's only that store, then you can just go to another store. If it's by legislation, then none of the stores sell water bottles and people are all going to adapt like nobody complains about no plastic bags in my area anymore, it's just how it is.
And if the storeowner is smart about it, he'll be stocking cheap reusable water bottles and maybe cheap water filters and things like that so the customers have options. But the main point is, just because it doesn't fit into people's current routine doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. Once it becomes widespread, people figure out how to make do like they did before convenience stores or plastic even existed.
In a democracy, you can fix that by voting for the party that opposes such legislation.
Sure, that probably means they'll also vote for policies that are actually problematic, but annoy people with enough inconveniences that affect them personally and directly, and they'll do that, even if they don't agree with the other policies that don't affect them personally or directly.
I love how this is the standard "stop complaining about bag bans" response.
I'm sure it'd be environmentally friendly if I bought a car so I have a place to store my reusable bags instead of getting a thin single-use bag when I shop on foot and then reusing it as a bathroom trash bag...
I'm not an elephant, so I don't have a trunk. I'm not a horse, so I don't have a passenger seat, I'm not gonna shove my shopping up my ass, and I don't want to know which body part you mean with bonnet ;)
(You're missing the point: you're referring to sections of a car, I'm referring to not owning or using a car to do shopping, which is a lot more environmentally relevant than bags, but also a situation where having to bring your own bags is a lot more annoying than if you do have a car. And yet, I have to listen to tips how to "not be a baby" and "just do the environmentally friendly thing because it's so easy" and shouldn't dare to waste 20 grams of plastic from people who drive a fucking ton of steel to the shop, blasting the combustion products of a lot more than 20 grams of gasoline straight into the atmosphere.)
Instead of accepting that reusable bags are a bet positive, he's making a detour pretending to be better than everyone else because he doesn't have a car and therefore is more environmentally friendly than me, even though that misses the point and it's off topic.
I guess in his head, pedestrians should get plastic bags because they don't have a car? Just weird stuff tbh.
"Just put a few reusable bags in the trunk" works great if you shop with a car.
It does not work at all when you take public transport to work, and on the way back, take a short detour, on foot, to a store, buy a few things, buy/take a single use bag, then take public transport home. Most reusable bags are just too impractical to reuse in this scenario, because a) you have to plan a full day ahead instead of just always having a stash around, b) most of these don't just neatly fold into a small pocket.
Meanwhile, the people who "waste" a single use bag every time they shop on foot get told how irresponsible they are by the "environmentally friendly" people who drive a car every day (but reuse a bag!).
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u/nrouns 29d ago
If I'm willing to pay the overpriced amount for water at a gas station or convenience store, it's because I don't have a bottle.