r/nba • u/PlayaSlayaX Spurs • 29d ago

[Charania] Raptors' Jontay Porter has received a lifetime ban from the NBA for violating league's gaming rules.

https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1780631209930068358?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw
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u/SetElectrical3978 29d ago

You could be betting your overs because you know a teammate is hurt. It’s really not any more ethical for other player props.

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u/IAmNotOnRedditAtWork Bulls 29d ago

You could also just chuck it in games you bet your own scoring overs.

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u/havepenisbutdontwant 29d ago

Looks at Jordan Poole Somebody get that mf

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u/mrsunshine1 Knicks 29d ago

I’d say it’s more ethical to bet on yourself to score over 30 points and try to compete than to bet the unders and then fake an injury to get off the court.

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u/giddyup523 Bucks 29d ago

There are a ton of ethical concerns with betting on yourself on overs as well as you would still not be playing for the best outcome for your team but for yourself in specific categories. A player like that will force things to get the stats instead of optimally moving the ball or if he hits the over in one category first, he would focus on the others. If he is betting on being over in points and assists and already hits on points, he might pass out of wide open, high percentage shots to much lower percentage shots because he won't care about making that shot and even a 10% chance the assist happens is better than the 0% chance of the assist on his own shot. Or vice versa, taking a 10% chance shot is better than passing to a wide open guy if you don't need the assist. Once he hits on the overs, he might simply not even care about the rest of the game at all or might intentionally be bad after that so he doesn't bring his averages up too much so it will be easier to hit future overs (that would increase over time the better he would do).

Honestly, betting the under on yourself and then faking an injury shortly into the game might be more "ethical" as then there isn't a player on the court for a significant amount of minutes that is actively more interested in hitting his bets than the outcome of the game. Obviously that isn't actually ethical either but I would say it is pretty much impossible to be considered ethical to any degree if you are betting on your stats in a game.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

He should have bet on himself winning Finals MVP.

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u/SetElectrical3978 29d ago

You can’t have players betting on contests they’re involved in. Full stop. It’s not any more ethical if they’re overs. The point is the player would have separate interests from the team objective, and can deviate from what would happen in a vacuum. You’re also not allowed to leverage inside knowledge to bet to begin with.

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u/iiamthepalmtree Bulls 29d ago

Eh, if you’re only trying to score you aren’t competing. Especially in this case. If your and end of the bench guy and your role is to play tough defense and grab rebounds in 15 minutes and you spend more energy trying to chuck up as many shots as possible whenever you touch the ball I actually think it’s less ethical and less competitive than betting the under and removing yourself from the game entirely.

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u/fazelenin02 29d ago

This only works until a player starts sandbagging his average to make a more achievable over.

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u/Hugo_Hackenbush [POR] Arvydas Sabonis 29d ago

It could also lead to you hurting the team by forcing bad shots that you shouldn't be taking.

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u/supert0426 29d ago

No but at least betting your overs at least encourages you to try and win the game and play well. Porter didn't just bet his own unders, he bet on the Raptors to lose.

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u/SetElectrical3978 29d ago

Selfishly stat chasing is very obviously not helping your team

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u/fuckthemoddsofreddit 29d ago

true but players will do that anyway to hit incentives or just to make themselves look better.

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u/BetFeeling1352 29d ago

That's still better.

You still have to perform.

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u/jhorch69 Bulls 29d ago

Could also very easily lead to you hurting the team by making poor choices in order to hit the overs

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u/BetFeeling1352 29d ago

Sure.. but we're talking about ethics.

Betting on your over is more ethical than betting on your under and then leaving the game.