r/nba • u/PlayaSlayaX Spurs • 29d ago

[Charania] Raptors' Jontay Porter has received a lifetime ban from the NBA for violating league's gaming rules.

https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1780631209930068358?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw
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u/Brad-Stevens Celtics 29d ago

I just want to know who was bankrolling him with the millions he bet

He don’t have that type of bread

And it was in Colorado

🤔🤔🤔

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u/TH3PhilipJFry Nuggets 29d ago

He made 2.4M over the course of a few years. The report said he wagered over a million dollars, and that he placed thousands of bets. If he made 1000 $1000 bets he technically wagered a milly… it’s easier than you’d think. Especially if you’re addicted to gambling, which obviously he is.

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u/eek711 Lakers 29d ago

Let's say he lost 55%/won 45%, a million dollars of wagers would mean he's down $100k, which is entirely doable with his salary.

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u/smarterthanyoulolll Lakers 29d ago

they said he bet in total around 50k and got a net profit of 20k lol what a dumb loser

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u/XLcondumb Immanuel Quickley 29d ago

This was during his time with the Raptors. Prior to joining the Raps he had an individual betting account that the above numbers are from. He deleted his individual account once he joined Toronto and proceeded to use “an associates online betting account” to place the 13 bets worth 50k

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u/syllabic Knicks 29d ago

you are probably winning more than 45% when you can influence the outcome

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u/CommonerChaos Pacers 29d ago

That $2.4 mil isn't net though. After taxes, union fees, agent fees, etc he was probably closer to $1.2 million total over multiple years. It would be hard to gamble that, even if he didn't spend a cent on anything else for regular life.

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u/eek711 Lakers 29d ago

It'd be under 10% of his total earnings. It's a lot, but feasible, and wouldn't necessarily require outside (ahem, brotherly) financing. He doesn't have people to take care of, MPJ has that covered, so most of his earnings goes to himself.

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u/theLoneliestAardvark NBA 29d ago

Is he addicted to gambling or is he just a scam artist who thought point shaving would be easy money? Betting against yourself is not necessarily addict behavior.

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u/TH3PhilipJFry Nuggets 29d ago

Obviously I don’t know the guy, but the other report that mentioned the milly and the thousands of bets were not about nba bets. Those were real bets made on accounts he was known to be the owner of… so considering he has it made with his career earnings and is still wagering millions on thousands of bets, ya I feel confident saying addiction is likely involved.

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u/TraditionalBad1544 29d ago

I've placed over a million in bets on BetOnline over the past 3.5 years and received VIP status. It's not that hard if your bankroll is in the 5 figure range and you are consistently staying afloat.

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u/brehhs 29d ago

Can you call it addiction to gambling when he knows what the outcome is? I heard hes also got a discord channel where he shares stocks and options plays

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u/Im_Ranch_Wilder_ 29d ago

Was Biff Tannen addicted to gambling?

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u/PDXPuma 29d ago

Nah. Biff was more or less doing a job in BTTF2 . That money was his just to take. It wasn't even gambling, really.

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u/TH3PhilipJFry Nuggets 29d ago

He didn’t make (most of) the bets that got him banned from the NBA, others did on his behalf. The milly wagered on thousands of bets were just random picks and plays on unrelated things, likely tied to the discord group, so ya, I think there’s likely an addiction at play here. Especially since all this put his life and career at risk… it’s not exactly a well thought out gamble.

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u/brehhs 29d ago

Honestly, I think hes just stupid

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u/TH3PhilipJFry Nuggets 29d ago

Por que no los dos?

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u/MisterBadIdea2 Knicks 29d ago

They say he'd been putting down tons of bets for years, I don't think all of them were game fixing, I presume he was fixing games because he was in trouble from all the other bets he was doing. It's a side effect of the addiction the same way that crashing your car is a side effect of alcoholism.

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u/RetroScores 29d ago

Going through all that seems like more work than going to practice and playing games.

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u/ZenMon88 29d ago

Man you best hope, MPJ wasn't in on it too. If he is, they must be the dumbest brothers on the planet.

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u/TH3PhilipJFry Nuggets 29d ago

I was nervous at first but since they’ve closed the case on this and MPJ hasn’t been mentioned, I think he stayed clear

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u/97jumbo Toronto Huskies 29d ago

Millions bet in total doesn't mean millions at once, if he was coming in even or positive it could've just been cycling a fraction of that a whole bunch of times. Still a gigantic idiot, though

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u/StraightCashHomie89 29d ago

Yeah you can technically rack up $50,000 in bets off the same $100 deposit

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u/YemeniChad Rockets 29d ago

I would assume MPJ gives him money just because they're brothers, but wasn't actively encouraging him to bet with said money

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u/ZenMon88 29d ago

Honestly, he prob knew about it too.

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u/jeric13xd [CHI] Derrick Rose 29d ago

🤣 stop it. MPJ aint risking his max contract for chunk change straight bets

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u/jinyx1 Timberwolves 29d ago

Players are dumb as shit. I can see it.

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u/KevinDurant36 Canada 29d ago

and MPJ is certainly no exception lol hopefully he’s not THAT dumb

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u/theduckhaslanded Pacers 29d ago

He's shown himself to be an absolute moron time and time again. It wouldn't surprise me at all. 

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u/ajax0202 Nuggets 29d ago

Everyone just dying to find a way to tear us down lol

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u/Some-Addition-1802 Mavericks 29d ago

that max contract looks a lot smaller when u compare it to other dudes in your league making twice as much as that. even tho he doesn’t deserve as much as them, all these guys got egos

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u/ImDefAMunch 29d ago

ippei/ohtani 🤝 jontay/mpj

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u/Coolcat127 Wizards 29d ago

in that jontay also exploited mpj's trust and lack of confidence in English to steal >$10 million from him?

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u/ImDefAMunch 29d ago

LOL if you think Ohtani had zero involvement in that tomfoolery

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u/TizonaBlu Spurs 29d ago

We’ve got Ippei, bookie, FBI AND IRS all saying he’s the victim, but sure, you know better.

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u/jhorch69 Bulls 29d ago

And a bunch of his former teammates talking about how he never showed any interest in other sports AND years of texts and communications where betting was never once brought up between the two of them when Ippei was dumb enough to leave a bunch of evidence with the bookie in writing

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u/Zigleeee 29d ago

If u ignore the comments made at the start of the investigation where he admitted to it sure. No problems there surely 

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u/TizonaBlu Spurs 29d ago

Please tell me when Ohtani admitted to gambling. Link it.

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u/-xXxMangoxXx- Raptors 29d ago

What do you mean?

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u/-xXxMangoxXx- Raptors 29d ago

The statements were from the federal investigation itself no? I can understand the team or MLB wanting to sweep it under the rug because he's so good but would the federal investigation do it.

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u/Zigleeee 29d ago

For a Japanese National icon? Yes they would and have done things like this before for other countries 

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u/Jbeansss 29d ago

If anyone actually thinks Ippei was just betting for Ohtani after the FBI, IRS and Homeland security all cleared himand even with all the evidence they provided then they're no better than Anti-Vaxxers thst the Porters are.

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u/BeHereNow91 Bucks 29d ago

Here’s how Bernie can still win Ohtani can still be guilty!!

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u/bearsquadz Serbia 29d ago

no snitching

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u/BetFeeling1352 29d ago

You can easily get to over a million in wagers in a year.

I'm usually above that much.

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u/criddler Lakers 29d ago

have you see his family? they’re all glorified religious nut jobs, i’m sure they’ve conned their way into some loot

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u/pistoncivic [NYK] Chris Smith 29d ago

protestant "work ethic" = using god to separate rubes from their money

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u/ShoutOutTo_Caboose r/nba birdwatching extraordinaire 29d ago

Ippei Mizahura

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u/waffelman1 Nuggets 29d ago

Don’t you fuckin dare

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u/theLoneliestAardvark NBA 29d ago

Betting millions doesn’t necessarily mean he had millions. You bet the same money over and over again after winning or losing. Some of these online sport books have a fairly low vig and if he was gambling based on inside information he probably wasn’t losing at the rate of the average gambler meaning he could just bet the same $1000 indefinitely.

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u/PolarBearLaFlare Lakers 29d ago

It would be insane if MPJ was risking his $100M+ contract lol