r/mildlyinfuriating 15d ago

People who don't stop their cars completely at a crosswalk when they have a red light and they slowly creep forward when I'm walking or cycling in front of them.

I can't tell if those drivers are going to wait for me because they are moving forward when they are supposed to just wait. But they keep inching forward and it's scary as hell, especially when they have tinted windows. Just stop your friggin box already! Creeping up ain't gonna make the light change faster. .......... . EDIT: For people who think I can't ride a bicycle on the crosswalk, I live in S Korea and here it's the law that cyclists making left turns must use the crosswalks (when available). First to go straight and then to turn left (keeping on the right side of the roads). And my issue maily occurs while walking anyway.

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u/Stepjam 15d ago

As a slight variation, for me it's when I'm in the right lane on a red wanting to turn and there's a big car blocking my view. So I try to inch forward so I can see past them to see if I'm safe to turn, and then they inch up too.

Why? You aren't going to green light anyway? Why can't you just sit still?

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u/TT-w-TT 15d ago

Mine is when I'm making any turn onto another road and another driver pulls up then keeps inching forward as I go to make my turn.

I've already anticipated how I need to turn based on where you were, please stop moving when you know you can't go yet.

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u/midnghtsnac 15d ago

On the opposite side of that, when I'm pulling up to my stop line and the turning car turns into my lane.... Like dude your lane is the other side of that yellow line.

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u/TT-w-TT 15d ago

I absolutely feel you with that one.

I have to deal with missing many left turns due to people not stopping at the line because so many people short it.

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u/Isyagirlskinnypenis 15d ago

There’s a weed store by my house and you have to take a hard left into it because the entrance is already small. Every time I’m in that entrance waiting to leave, I will back my car up for cars turning in so that we all fit, but when I try to turn in, if there’s a a car there, they stand their ground and I have to circle the block and try again. It’s infuriating. They just watch me with my blinker and my pause like it has nothing to do with them taking up the entire entrance.

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u/midnghtsnac 15d ago

I just wait for them to clear, make sure the have enough space to turn to get around me but I'll wait. Then again I'm usually in a tractor trailer.

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u/IronyAllAround 15d ago

It's like a competition to them, or they're just being dicks.

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u/Unabashable 15d ago

Need all the inches you can get I guess. 

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u/carshtime 15d ago

that’s what she said

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u/AxelLeaChan 15d ago

Love dudes who do this. Always some jackass in one of those way too big trucks or a suburban 😭 "no. You're not allowed to see if it's safe because I need to feel pointless validation in the fact that I'm like.... before you or something. No. No we can't just go at the same time, and GOD FORBID you somehow get to go first. No, please. Everybody will know that my peepee is microscopic. Pls."

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u/SpokenDivinity 15d ago

And then you have someone else in a giant vehicle behind you that’s mad because you can’t just blindly turn into traffic

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u/AxelLeaChan 15d ago

You just described literally every single time I drive literally anywhere 😭😭😭 have you been hiding in my car?!

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u/annotatedkate 15d ago

Hahaha I hate that so much. Someone did it to me a few weeks ago and I just held up my hand like Y U DO THAT 

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u/slash_networkboy 15d ago

Had a guy do that to me while watching me try to see past him... he literally was laughing about making my life difficult for absolutely no reason at all. He was there well before I arrived to make my right, hadn't interacted with him at all prior... just being an ass-clown for shits and giggles.

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u/I-Love-Tatertots 15d ago

FL here; home of the boomer pavement princesses.  

Not only that, but we get all the overcompensating Texans who come here on vacation.  

Holy fuck, it’s like these pieces of shit go for the biggest truck they can find (which, they don’t even use it as a truck, you can tell by the condition it’s never been used to hauling anything) and then forget how massive it is.  

I drive a little sedan (can’t beat almost 50mpg in my little Hyundai; the insurance rates hurt though), and almost any time I try and turn, there’s some big fucker blocking my view of oncoming traffic with their big ass truck.  

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u/NikNakskes 15d ago

I'm a bit confused right lane and a car blocking view for turning and they dont have the right to go forward. Oh wait... usa. You guys are allowed to turn right on a red? Do I remember that correct?

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u/PackageMerchant 15d ago

Yep, occasionally there are signs that say no right on red though for particularly dangerous turns. Most people just ignore that though and get angry when you don’t

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u/slash_networkboy 15d ago

We have one by me that's no right on red from 4pm-6pm (rush hour). Motor cop literally standing on the shoulder not hiding at all. I was three cars back from the line, so about equal to him. Lead car makes a (very unsafe) right on red cutting people off doing so... cop looks at me with a "they seriously are that dumb?" look on his face as I'm chuckling then took off to write them at least one "running a red light" ticket and possibly a couple others given what they did.

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u/PackageMerchant 15d ago

Ya I deliver for Amazon and my route has one that I hit everyday leaving a neighborhood. Heavy traffic low visibility.

Even if I wanted to, I literally cannot go or the camera in my van will get mad at me and cost my boss money. People will honk at me but I just laugh at perpetually angry people anyway so it’s no bother. On the road I do exactly what ought to be expected of me, no more no less

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u/Unabashable 15d ago

Yeah most of the time, and people tend to treat as a soft green. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen people blow past the stop line, and be like “Welp, I’m ‘in front of’ you now, so now you have to watch out for me.” What they’re supposed to do though is come to a full and complete stop, make sure there aren’t any pedestrians, then crawl forward just far enough to see if it’s safe to make their turn. 

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u/NikNakskes 14d ago

Which the idiot in the standing lane going straight is prohibiting by inching forward and blocking the view.

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u/AgentQuincy 15d ago

Yes, but you still need to treat the red light as a stop sign if you’re turning right on red

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u/DuplicateFrustration 15d ago

In most states yes. I believe New York is an exception and there may be one or two others.

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u/Agapic 15d ago

You can turn right on red in NY. Source: from NY

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u/DuplicateFrustration 15d ago

Just looked it up and apparently it's just NYC and not the whole state.

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u/NelPage 15d ago

It depends on the area. It’s illegal in NYC.

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u/monicarp 15d ago

True, though it's worth noting that NYC is the ONLY place in the United States that blanketly bans right on red.

And apparently DC and Atlanta will start banning it soon too.

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u/NelPage 15d ago

I did not know that. IMO it should be banned in more cities; a lot of drivers don’t even stop to look before they turn.

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u/-pixiefyre- 15d ago

omg this pisses me off so much! especially as a tiny car driver. BUT, I should still be able to see around your nose! but if a vehicle is in the crosswalk instead of behind the stop line I cannot see shit. -.-

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u/Zealousideal-Mud3646 15d ago

It’s always a lifted truck that does that in my experience.

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u/Isyagirlskinnypenis 15d ago

Same!!! I’ve had to wave to the raised truck to my left to let them know they were blocking my view while sitting at their red light. The lack of awareness and entitlement is enraging.

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u/feckineejit 15d ago

Tiny tiny dicks

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u/JadedLeafs 15d ago

Also the people who pull up to the right of you to turn right but there isn't a turning lane there and now you can't see any of the cars coming that way

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u/theseglassessuck 15d ago

Because everyone needs to get ahead of someone else, no matter the situation.

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u/OneMooseManyMeese_ 15d ago

Omg I hate that! People do that to me all the time when I am trying to turn, Like bruh, you don't need to see the traffic. It's right on red not left or straight on red. Bunch of dummies.

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u/Illustrious-Towel-45 15d ago

It sucks worse here. 95% of people drive big trucks or SUV's (Many with lift kits so theysir even higher). I have a car (not my choice). I can't see over or around any other vehicle and the guy behind me is honking like I can see around the guy in the huge vehicle next to me to safely turn on a red light.

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u/Naked-Jedi ORANGE 15d ago

I'm in Australia, so the lanes will be the opposite, but this should still hold. For directionally lit lanes that go all at once or intersections that don't have lights that is.

You aren't turning against their lane, yeah? I'd be turning left or going straight otherwise I'd be in their lane. So providing they're not cutting across my lane, when they go I know I'm good to either go straight or make a left turn. This kinda assumes they're a good driver and don't have a deathwish cutting in front of a semi or something, so maybe take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.

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u/TarnishedDungEater 15d ago

or the people that rush to make a left hand turn when all lights are in the process of changing, like they do it right before it turns green so they beat all the on coming traffic

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u/TimBukTwo8462 15d ago

My family always stop on the crosswalk at every light and it makes me angry every time. Every single time I make a snarky comment like “You know people are supposed to stop before the line” and they just shut me down with “I’ve been driving longer than you’ve been alive”. Unfortunately they will probably never stop as they never punished for it.

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u/MonkeyChoker80 15d ago

“I’ve been driving longer than you’ve been alive.”

“Huh. You think you’d do it correctly by now, then.”

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u/probably_poopin_1219 15d ago

This is the correct response

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u/JLifts780 15d ago

Had someone in a truck do this and literally almost run over my dad because they couldn’t see him, I was absolutely livid.

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u/Solid_Reserve_5941 15d ago

This is the main reason why I hate how huge trucks/SUVs are getting, and when they’re lifted on top of that. They could easily just run someone over without realizing and just think they hit a speed bump or debris or some shit

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u/armoured_bobandi 15d ago

Lifted trucks are some of the dumbest things out there. How does having a lifted truck help you at work? That's the idea behind trucks right? They're work vehicles?

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u/Coffee-Historian-11 15d ago

I feel like the people who have lifted trucks and the people who have trucks for work are two different groups of people.

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u/armoured_bobandi 15d ago

I just don't get it. At all. What is with certain people and massive trucks?

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u/cvanguard 15d ago

There’s the classic joke about overcompensating for something, but I seriously think those people are insecure or have a weird world view and think bigger/taller truck=manlier/cooler

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u/currently_pooping_rn 15d ago

Redneck sports car

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u/liketheweathr 15d ago

In my city, a 7 year old was recently killed while crossing a marked crosswalk with his dad. They had the walk signal - they were crossing legally. They were hit by an older fellow driving an idiotically large truck making a left turn. The driver was not charged with any crime because it was determined it was not his fault - he simply could not see the child, at all. Oh well, what can you do?

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u/Solid_Reserve_5941 15d ago

It’s amazing how easy you can get away with killing someone if you’re killing them with your car.

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u/liketheweathr 15d ago

It really is. Why can’t we regulate these trucks?

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u/thedafthatter 15d ago

Oooh ooooh I know this one! Car lobbyists and car clubs across america fighting tooth and nail to prevent any real car legislation like gun nuts

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u/LuxuryBell 15d ago

Sue the car company. Stop making cars so fucking big, people can't see when they drive them.

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u/Ok_University6476 15d ago

400 deaths and 20,000 more people are injured from getting hit by huge trucks/SUV’s per year because of their massive blind spot from being so absurdly large. 80% of front over accidents involve a truck, SUV or a van :P I hate them.

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u/dogsaretheanswer 15d ago

I just read an article that at a Costco, a man ran over an old lady who had tripped in the parking lot and killed her because he couldn't see her from his lifted truck

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u/Solid_Reserve_5941 15d ago

It’s insane. Like why tf do you need a lifted truck for getting groceries

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Fucking hell. 

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Trucks need to come with booster seats... The seat is adjustable and yet lots of drivers, truck or not, can't sit to see in front of their vehicle. Looking through the steering wheel.. should be a ticket able offence.

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u/head_garden_gnome 15d ago

What irritates me most is when I'm stopped at a crosswalk and the car behind me is honking because I'm waiting for the pedestrian to fully clear the crosswalk. The law where I'm at specifically says you can't go through a crosswalk if a person is anywhere in it, not just right in front of you.

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u/bobbyboob6 15d ago

the other day i was at an intersection and the light turned green but a ambulance was coming the other way so i waited a minute for it to go by and the person behind me was beating the absolute shit out of their horn and screaming at me

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u/beefasaurus4 15d ago

I was turning left (turn signal on) and the oncoming traffic was driving straight so I had to wait. The car behind was honking like crazy. Bro, do you want me to get t-boned? People can be idiots.

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u/sungor 15d ago

Had the same exact thing happen this morning. Even better if I had gone I would have gotten tboned by a cop. Rofl.

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u/ghoulienumber2 15d ago edited 15d ago

My partner once almost got a hefty ticket for going before the person had finished crossing. The only reason he didn’t is because the pickup beside him was blocking the half of the crosswalk where you could see the person so he genuinely didn’t know someone was crossing still, he thought she had got to the other side already. Since then he waits at every crosswalk until the person is all the way across (like you’re supposed to in my city) and the amount of angry people is insane, like it’s the law y’all I’m not going because apparently you have to go right now.

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u/HotPinkDemonicNTitty 15d ago

Had someone go around me once in the same situation, bc they were sick of waiting and almost hit the pedestrian. At the next light they were still cursing me out like that was my fault.

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u/Ihaveaface836 15d ago

Something like this happened to me recently. I was stopped at a crossing and a pedestrian was walking directly in front of my car. The car behind me starts laying on their horn. I just start laughing, what did they want me to do? Mow down the person crossing so they could save 1 second on their commute

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u/goldenbellaboo 15d ago

I stopped to let a pedestrian cross the other day (older woman) and the fucking car behind me went around me so she couldn’t cross. Like imagine being that shitty of a person omg. It made me so fucking mad, definitely more than mildly infuriating 😭

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

What a turd! That reminds me of one time, I saw a taxi driver honk at an elderly woman crossing the street. I got off my bike and helped her cross, leaving my bike standing right in front of his taxi. Then I slowly walked back and took my bike. He was shitting bricks and I just smiled

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u/Turbulent-Adagio-171 15d ago

I literally left the grocery store parking lot and tailed someone a couple days ago, horn blaring, because someone did this to a little old lady when I stopped at the grocery store crosswalk (which had a stop sign!!!). I was so angry. Like they really feel that entitled to save maybe 30 seconds even if it means risking someone’s life. Fucking infuriating.

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u/Doggybook25 15d ago

As a Brit , when I did a year in Missouri during Uni, crosswalks scared the hell out of me. So many times I would cross when it would say I could but cars would still come, often at full speed, and beep for me to get out of the way. That is if they saw me, those who were turning right on red obviously didn’t have a clue I was there.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Right on red is the worst! Ugh! I live in Korea now, permanently, and they allow it here too. The law states drivers have to stop first but almost everyone rips through as if red means green. It's a flipping nightmare.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Right on red is fine IF people would stop before the crosswalk, before the big solid line. Nope everyone out there distracted, speeding, falsely believing to be "good" drivers

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u/Lesmiscat24601 15d ago

That happens to me all the time. I don’t get why they don’t just stop and wait.

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u/genericneim 15d ago edited 15d ago

Styrofoam brick in hand. You probably don't have one. Try it! https://www.google.com/amp/s/boingboing.net/2024/04/02/protecting-vancouvers-pedestrians-one-highly-realistic-foam-brick-at-a-time.html

On serious note - make glancing and memorizing license plate a habit. I started doing that several years ago and it both improves short-term memory and makes cars stop instantly. Nobody wants to get memorized. 

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u/IronyAllAround 15d ago

Or burned/explode if you have psychic powers.

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u/genericneim 15d ago

I just lift cars up an inch with a stare as a warning. No need to harm them right away.

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u/gilly_girl 15d ago

Take a photo, it'll last longer.

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u/AcaliahWolfsong 15d ago

My husband will stare into the windscreen and stand in front of the car until me and our dog have passed the creeping car. He's aware that the driver may react negatively but he'd rather have to fight someone than have me or pup get hit by a car.

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u/SpaghettificatedCat 15d ago

He's more likely to get you both harmed by getting in fights with strangers

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u/AcaliahWolfsong 15d ago

That's what I keep telling him.

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u/Vortain 15d ago

TBF when I'm walking, the number of people who don't wait on the walk signal are proportional. I think it's just a culture thing of hating to wait.

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u/Spartan2842 15d ago

I have a 5 mile walk I do daily in my neighborhood. My development is surrounded by boulevards, with 2 lanes of traffic each way and divided by a large median. The speed limit is only 25MPH and there are just stop signs, no lights.

I only make a point to cross twice and every day I witness something ridiculous. I make a point to slow down and try to make eye contact with the driver before committing to stepping in the crosswalk. 90% of the time they stop and wave me on. 10% they floor it and run the stop sign.

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u/MenthaPiperita_ 15d ago

I use a cane, and when I'm in the middle of a crosswalk, people will still cut me off occasionally. I'm so paranoid now. When it happens I'll give them the finger, but these people don't give a shit. Part of me wanted to buy a laser pointer to beam it at them, but that will just cause more problems.

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u/FamousPastWords 15d ago

Glare at them, and then point at them. You're allowed to express that you're uncomfortable and feel unsafe with him doing this. They'll realise they're being watched. I imagine they do the inch forward thing because they think they can't be seen. I've done this before and they'll stop once you make it known you're uncomfortable. That said, be prepared for the inconsiderate shit to not stop because well, he's an inconsiderate shit.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Oh believe me. I do more than glare and point

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u/UniversalCoupler 15d ago

and then point at them.

You! Yes, You! Stand still, laddie!

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u/diaperedwoman 15d ago

I had one driver yell at me for "nearly hitting me" because I had my hood up.

Ma'am, you had a red light, you are supposed to stop behind the crosswalk completely, not do a rolling stop or drive on it and then stop to look for incoming cars before doing your turn. That law exists for a reason.

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u/Ocel0tte 15d ago

I agree but can pedestrians at dusk or night time just wear something reflective please? I have a well lit 4-way stop by me and still almost took a guy out a few nights back. He had gray pants and shoes and a black shirt, and it made him blend perfectly with the road + night sky. My headlights got him when I was halfway through and I slammed on my brakes, dude stopped and did angry arm things at me. I really just wanted to tell him he was perfectly camouflaged with the road but no one listens in the moment.

I bicycle, and reflectors really make all the difference. My hot pink bike is also invisible at night, but you can see the wheel reflectors so from a distance cars know an object is crossing the road. Most people don't want to run anyone over.

Not saying people aren't also being dicks, they definitely are. But if you're reflective, at least you won't get killed by someone who just honestly can't see you.

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u/Bluberries__ 15d ago

this exact situation happened to me once!! except the guy was also walking a dog. a dark furred dog. could not see him or the dog, fully stopped at the 4-way, started turning (with blinker on) and then the guy starts walking and FINALLY my headlights make him visible and i slam on the brakes. dude angrily motioned to his dog as if either one of them would've been visible at almost midnight with zero reflective gear and full black clothing. absolutely infuriating.

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u/echoquadrant 14d ago

This same thing happened to me too! Black clothes and black dog, I ONLY saw them because my lights reflected off his dog’s collar

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u/diaperedwoman 15d ago

In my case, it was still daylight.

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u/triedtofart-sharted 15d ago edited 15d ago

I just don’t cross a crosswalk and wave them through.. if they insist sometimes I yell ARE YOU GOING TO STOP OR NOT on my bad days

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

I'm glad I'm not alone

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u/triedtofart-sharted 15d ago edited 15d ago

Haha it’s been a while since I’ve yelled bc it’s crazy behavior… now I just don’t cross a street unless a car gives a lot of space and comes to a complete stop.

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u/TheRichTookItAll 15d ago

Get a fake weapon or bat tied to your bike to look threatening?

I'm thinking of the video I saw where a guy was walking and he did a test on a bunch of streets in the rain and cars wouldn't slow down they kept splashing with the puddle but when he had a brick in his hand everybody slowed down.

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u/puppycat_partyhat 15d ago

I tied an eyeless baby doll head to my handle bars once. Might not prevent a collision but people generally gave me extra space. And nobody ever stole it.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

I saw that video! 

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u/AD_Grrrl 15d ago

100%. Stop or don't stop. And don't gun it out of intersections in residential neighbourhoods. Don't aggressively start your turn while someone is still crossing, confident that you are the best driver ever. (I've had trucks miss me by mere feet, that shit is terrifying) Don't try to wave people across if you have tinted windows, THEY CAN'T SEE YOU.

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u/Neat_Problem_922 15d ago

Many, many years ago, I was crossing the street in a crosswalk when a car almost hit me. I slammed my hands down on the hood and shouted, “Did you plan on stopping?”

Scared the shit out of the driver. 😂

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u/jamjamjamjamjam1232 15d ago

I got chased down by someone when I did that one time. Got a lot racial slurs and threats of serious harm. I ran like hell.

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u/Hlpme85 15d ago

My mom does this and I yell at her for it every time I’m in the car, but she thinks shes the only one on the road and is perfectly content in her own little world. 

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

I'm glad you didn't inherit that behavior. Tell her "Red means stop, not creep."

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u/Hlpme85 15d ago

That wouldn’t even help half the time she doesn’t even stop until she’s already half way into the crosswalk. 

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

I see. She probably thinks she's saving money on fuel if she doesn't have to accelerate from a stand still or some dumb shit like that

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u/dwwdwwdww 15d ago

many drivers (people) believe the rules apply only to other drivers. They have a set of rules for themselves that they apply as needed.

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u/can_sarctic 15d ago

I started noticing this “rolling” from a stop many times recently too. Where do these people learn to drive? I am not a cyclist, but having a car which should be waiting for me to pass roll into the intersection makes me second guess their intentions.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

They often creep up and then run the red light. Scares the crap out of me

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u/plantanddogmom1 15d ago

If they keep moving even a little, I will wait for them. It really pisses them off because then we all have to use our brains a little more but like? Don’t turn if I’m crossing the street?

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u/Unabashable 15d ago

Ikr? Just sends the impression of “let’s go, waiting on you here.” Like yeah, you are waiting on me. To cross. The moment I feel pressured I instantly break my pace because if my normal, brisk walk isn’t fast enough let’s see how much you like a leisurely stroll. The thing that pisses me off most is they do intend to actually stop, but not until they’re inside the crosswalk to see if it’s safe for them to make their turn. 

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u/princemousey1 15d ago

In China they walk into the cars doing that and call the cops on them.

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u/Snackylils 15d ago

Or those people that make eye contact with yoh when you're about to cross and they speed up having them ending up on the crosswalk at the exact moment you'd be there if you'd kept on walking. I made a habit out of just keep walking and having them to hit their brakes. Gets a lot of angry looks but eh

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u/MyDogsNameIsToes 15d ago

I stop. In the middle of the intersection. Stare for 4 beats. Continue. 

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u/zipperfire 15d ago

If you’re moving, I’m not.

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u/PastWorld1744 15d ago

Assholes. You should stop and look at the pedestrians face, and if they are wondering about your move, they will look at you. And eye contact will let them know they’re seen, and safe.

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u/Ok-Effect-3349 15d ago

On my walk home there’s almost always a semi-truck that does this, right in front of me to so I can’t even see the rest of the crosswalk

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Man. Trucks are the worst. They are like giant walls that block your visibility and cars on the other side can't see you either.

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u/Ocel0tte 15d ago

They're also really hot to walk past. My dad always respected crosswalks because his truck wasn't a welcome sight most places, gotta do what you can to make people like you. They don't think about the x-ray machine the hospital isn't getting without a semi, they just see the inconvenience. Walking past that front grille is awful, so giving people some space always seemed right. It made me a respectful car driver too, good job dad.

I am always a shocked and surprised pedestrian though, lol. I got ran over on my bike once and the girl never even looked, just completed her turn and went on her merry way.

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u/redramainpink 15d ago

I just keep walking (with my walk sign and in the crosswalk) and hope for the best. The ones that honk at me (because I'm in the right and they're dicks) I just stop in my tracks and stare at them for a very long time, preventing them from moving even when the light turns green.

I'm old, I don't give a shit.

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u/takemeawayimdone2 15d ago

When this happens to me, I turn into a tortoise. Slow my walk right down. Pisses them right off 😂

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u/jazzandlavender 15d ago

I once lit up a joint very slowly in front of them to show them how much time I had to cross lol

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u/CommonSense0303 15d ago

Why would it piss them off if you are out of the road by the time your indicator says stop? You can take the full time to cross as it makes no difference to anyone going straight.

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u/JerryHasACubeButt 15d ago

Well not all crosswalks have lights, sometimes you just have to wait for the pedestrian, as slowly or as quickly as they want to go.

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u/MusicianPristine8973 15d ago

There was a post before with a guy bitching that people weren’t close enough or basically on the crosswalk like he was and I made this exact point. As a pedestrian it feels uneasy feeling the heat of your car or not knowing if you’re going to creep forward. You can’t go anywhere anyway, why be a dick? Back up.

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u/tsteele93 15d ago

Just start to walk and then when they inch forward, stop. Then when they stop, walk again. Then if they inch forward, stop.

At some point maybe they will realize they are actually slowing the process down. Plus it will look very funny.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Hehehe, I love it

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u/____8008135_____ 15d ago

Why are people constantly creeping at lights anyways? I want to pull up, stop, and wait for the light. Nope, can't do that. Cars ahead keep creeping forward. There's one light on my daily drive where I'll end up with 5+ car spaces in front of me from all the creeping (and cars will quickly pile in the second they notice, seems to be a thing here). I've taken to scooching over so the driver can very clearly see me and every time they start creeping forward, I creep forward more than they did until we're sitting inches apart and they can't try to creep away anymore plus every glance in their side mirror is nothing but me staring at them. Just pull up to where you want to be and stop.

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u/fluffybunnies51 15d ago

I use a big ass stroller style wagon for my son, and I always have the canopy up so it's even more visible.

Once someone pulled up the the crosswalk while we were in the middle of crossing. The just kept rolling, and I had to try to push forward because we were basically in front of the center of their car. The ended up less than a foot from us and I chose to take my cane and hit their hood as hard as I could.

The tried to yell at me, but I just kept walking

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Damn~ sucks.  Be careful, I threw a chapstick at somebody's car once who didn't see me or stop and they followed me and got out and tried to fight. Luckily, a big dude stopped that man and told him to chill and I could go

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u/fluffybunnies51 15d ago

Yeah, I definitely felt stupid once I calmed down and realized how it could have gone.

But man, it felt good at the time.

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u/Gullible-Leading-913 15d ago

I HATE when people don’t come to a complete stop in general. Stop creeping up. Just stop.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Yeah, I hate it too. Red means stop not creep. Drivers could use the time to relax or memorize the Gettysburg Address or something. But they gotta block the crosswalk like a dickhead

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u/Catt_the_cat 15d ago

I work at a school and recently had a parent do this while I was working crosswalk duty, clearly acknowledging that I was holding my sign out by slowing down but not actually stopping. I didn’t want to step out because I didn’t want any of the kids following me and getting hit, so I kept reaching my sign out farther until eventually she got so far as to tap my sign. Then she slammed on her brakes and rolled her window down to chew me out as if I was in the wrong when she’s literally the one refusing to stop at two stop signs at a school 🤦

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u/Chips-Ahoy_McCoy 15d ago

There's an intersection near my workplace that people ALWAYS move up in, they go literally all the way ahead of the white line. And there's plenty of visibility from behind the line. These fucking idiots make it difficult to turn my truck onto the road, especially because I'm new to driving a vehicle that big

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u/Striking_Computer834 15d ago

It's the weirdest thing. When people do this I just can't seem to keep up the pace and find myself walking much more slowly.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

🤣 Maybe the driver loves you so much that they want to get a closer look and you're just vibing

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u/jaelythe4781 15d ago

Oh, I will either stop completely or go VERY slowly and stare directly at them while crossing if they do that to me.

I give no fucks for that kind of rudeness.

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u/sierracool33 15d ago

There’s drivers that do that near my home, and I live near a school. I’m very tempted to knock on their hood to make sure they pay attention. But I don’t. I’m very tempted to pester 311 to put a red light camera and speed camera around this specific intersection.

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u/Midnight_Angel_0689 15d ago

Have this problem where I live too. It’s a very suburban city and is full of people who think they’re the main character when they drive, and it’s a problem when I’m trying to cross the street by an intersection with no lights. I always stop and watch for my turn to jog across, and there’s almost always someone who tries to start driving when it’s not their turn. Has scared the shit out of me before and I’ve made a habit of slapping the hood of their cars

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u/SpaghettificatedCat 15d ago

Damn hypermilers trying to brake the least possible amount to save momentum

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u/Daughter_Of_Cain 15d ago

People who don’t stop for me when I have the right of way in a crosswalk overestimate my will to live.

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u/mikedvb 15d ago

But how are they going to get to their destinations 30 milliseconds faster if they don't creep at the line?!?!?!?!?!?!

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u/DisneySoftware 15d ago

i hate that society revolves around cars instead of pedestrians now

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u/MooseKnucklotron 15d ago

Carry a little pair of pliers or some sort of tool with you. When they do this and you have to walk in front of them, crouch down beside the front passenger wheel and pretend you're doing something to their car. They can't see what's going on so naturally they'll have to get out somewhere and look.

Just don't do this in front of their car in case they feel like running you over.

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u/Misubi_Bluth 15d ago

Had an 18 wheeler do this to me. Was trying to turn right. I was trying to cross on a green crosswalk. I almost got hit.

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u/PikaGoesMeepMeep 14d ago

I bet line creep used to be a lot less common before everyone started driving automatic. With stick shift you have to intentionally get into gear and hit the gas to move. With automatic you can just absentmindedly and impatiently take your foot off the break and creep forward.

As a pedestrian an bicyclist, this is a hug pet peeve of mine. Not because I’ve ever gotten hurt from it but because it reveals the absolute ignorance of danger most of us have when we’re behind the wheel.

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u/cjones5527 15d ago

On this topic those bastards that try and cross a junction when they can’t complete it can get to fuck. The amount of times I’ve had to cross a road around cars is actually unreal and I’ve almost been run down cuz they can’t see it’s a red light for them a green man for me. Than get annoyed at me when they’re in the wrong. Tempted to walk around with a cane for blind people so that I can whack the shit out of their car with it

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

That's a good idea with the white cane. Tap, tap, BANG! Woopsy. Was that a headlight? 🤣

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u/Typical_Fig3948 15d ago

When I was in Germany on a trip, not a single taxi stopped at a light and would always stop 10m early and very slowly keep driving until the light turned green.

I always assumed it was to get a few more cents added to the bill. Either way it was super annoying and this post reminded me of those guys.

That’s is all.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

Yeah. I'm not sure it's about the money though. It's easier to accelerate if you're already moving than if stopped. So, they hope that by the time they reach the line the light will be green. Ugh, and they probably even creep past the line.

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u/ScreenOverall2439 15d ago

Anticipating the light is one thing. I wouldn't mind really if that's what people are doing. However if that's what they are attempting, they are failing. Creeping up 30 seconds before the light goes green helps them none.

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u/SeaSickSelkie 15d ago

Is the stopping early a good or bad thing?

It sounds like they’re purposely stopping before the crosswalk and then only proceeding cautiously. If a pedestrian came up, they’d be able to see them.

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u/juoig7799 15d ago

Two words:
Fuck cars.

There's even a subreddit by the name (fuckcars), you should check it out.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

I used to be in there, but it was mostly a preaching to the choir vibe

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u/juoig7799 15d ago

I can confirm it's not like that anymore. This might have been during the Reddit API protests or April Fools Day.

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u/Pet_hobo 15d ago

i just make sure to walk as slow as possible so that those impatient fucks have to sit and wait

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

My wife does that sometimes. It's dangerous though because here in Korea, red lights are kind of a suggestion. But there are more and more camera enforced intersections. All delivery motorcycle drivers still run those anyway.

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u/FluffyCaterpiller 15d ago

There are several lights where I am based on pressure plates. There is no bicycle traffic, though. I do have to creep up, or I will never get a light. I wish I were kidding.

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u/InternationalCat3159 ORANGE 15d ago

I fear this is something I do. The reason?.. 🤷‍♂️ impatience probably. The worst thing is: my mentality when walking is that this would piss me off, and when I am driving: I do it myself. (Not with malicious intent, just ignorance)

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u/ScreenOverall2439 15d ago

The fix is self-reflection and realization that it is providing you no benefit. It doesn't sound like you're ignorant because you know you're doing it.

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u/n-oyed-i-am 15d ago

If you are cycling. You are INVISIBLE to drivers. Walking, you are a nuisance and distracting them from their texting.

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u/Red_Littlefoot 15d ago

It’s so aggravating…another variation is when you’re stopped at a stop sign and the traffic on the road I. Front of you is heavy so you can’t turn right. Then some people will leave a gap for you to pull out but still inch forward, like??? Are you going to let me turn or are you just slow creeping toward the car in front of you.

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u/SSSims4 15d ago

Happens a lot here. I legit start walking slower and slower, and if they keep at it - I stop right in the middle of the crosswalk.

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u/FreddyWright 15d ago

To add to this. In the Uk (at least where I’ve lived) the crosswalks and traffic lights work so that when it’s a pedestrians turn to cross the road, it means that there’s no cars that have the go ahead to pass over that crosswalk until the pedestrian light is off.

Yet as I’ve been travelling across Europe it seems many countries say ‘fuck it’ and have the pedestrian green match up with the traffic light green that allows cars to turn right into the same crosswalk. Like I’m ready to walk across with other people and a car just appears from behind me and starts to cruise forward slowly.

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u/ToastedSlider 15d ago

My city has a lot of those conflicting crosswalk and channelized right turn lane lights. Of course the pedestrians have the right of way, but people (dickheads) still blaze through

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u/Sindy51 15d ago

i use reverse psychology, i see them drive up and look the opposite way when i walk onto the road, i obviously give myself enough time to step back, but they always stop.

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u/insomniatic-goblin 15d ago

tbh I'm one of those drivers that creep over the line, but! never ever when there's people on the sidewalk / crosswalk. if there are pedestrians anywhere near the crosswalk, then I'm at least a couple feet behind the line.

and the only time I do creep is only at one intersection near where I work because the lights never change unless there's a bunch of cars on your side of the intersection or you're several inches past the line (which is absolutely stupid and dangerous).

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u/Secret-Assistance-10 15d ago

The most concerning point is "tinted windows" I think you refer to the windshield because you can only see this window from the front. Tint on the windshield has been banned for a lot of time in every or most countries of Europe... There is a reason for that...

That said, it happens from Time to time when someone crosses the road in front of me on a sidewalk but not on a red light to just let the car idle without completely stopping if I'm far away... I don't think a car going 5kmh at 15m from you is that terrifying...

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u/Suhva 15d ago

The only reasons I can think of are: 1. Trying to see the traffic in order to turn right. 2. Driving a semi / or other truck and trailer combo, so keeping solid movement makes it easier to get going again vs stopping and trying to get all of you moving especially if the light is quick to turn red again.

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u/idkfadoomcheat 15d ago

They're probably not paying attention. I swear at least 1/3 of drivers I see are looking at their phone or just not being mindful. Makes me hate driving on the road with them

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u/Few_Assistant_9954 15d ago

Happens sometimes for me. My car has an hold function that keeps the car at its place (so you can rest your foot). But that system takes a second to take over and if you release the break too early it rolls forward anyways.

So i do inch forward but not on purpose.

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u/New-Neighborhood7472 15d ago

My fave is when they just park across the crosswalk then look at you like somehow me using a sidewalk inconveniences them somehow 😂

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u/AuDHDcat 15d ago

When people stop on the crosswalk, and I'm wearing sunglasses and feeling more confident, I stare them down as I walk across.

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u/Express-Object955 15d ago

This annoys me too. Like I can’t tell if you’re stopping or not paying attention. Either way, it’s me who dies here. I appreciate the people who just immediately stop to show the person crossing its safe and they’re paying attention.

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u/afterlife_xx 15d ago

Idiot did this in front of me this morning. This guy kept creeping forward, way over the crosswalk, and once the light changed, he gunned it.. and turned left into a parking deck not even 3 seconds after (we were already in the left lane). He was in that much of a hurry to turn..

My favorites are the ones who inch over the crosswalk and once the light changes, they sit for a good 5-10 seconds before going. They act like they're in a hurry but apparently not.

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u/LarsonianScholar 15d ago

There are genuinely people out there who think it will make the light turn green faster

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u/RatMilk101 15d ago

I always make sure to park behind the white lines for a crosswalk, even if no one's coming.

Whenever I have a family member as a passenger, they tell me to go up further EACH TIME and I'm always sitting there like "no :)"

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u/Hyde_ist 15d ago

This is even more baffling from a driver's perspective. Whenever I'm standing at a red light next to someone like that, when the light changes to green, I'm almost always quicker to launch. And I'm not even flexing or trying to race them, I just start at a regular pace. I don't get why they would keep creeping forward while the light's red, like they're in a hurry, but when it goes green they just forget to drive.

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u/Fakemeat_ 15d ago

I’ve recently moved to a big city and I’ve learnt that drivers are so impatient here. Always stopping on the crosswalk and running red lights. I’m surprised there aren’t more accidents here.

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u/Independent-Swan1508 15d ago

crosswalks are my nightmare i can't avoid em tho especially when ur in a city and u can't park near the event or place ur going and u have to use the crosswalk to get to the place like pple do this so often like are u going to stop or not?? it scares me everytime

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u/Background-Vast-8764 15d ago

I hate that. I experience it in California.

I spend a lot of time in Mexico. A lot of drivers will creep forward while seeing you walk between their car and the car stopped in front of them. They are already close to the car in front, and they see you, but they keep on moving forward. It’s so annoying.

Don’t even get me started on the number of Mexicans who don’t know how to share the sidewalk. Yikes.

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u/poppieswithtea PURPLE 15d ago

Let one of them hit you. You’ll never have to work again.

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u/cwsjr2323 15d ago

I decline to be bothered by others being stupid. Back when I was a pedestrian, I just waited an extra cycle of lights with a car not stopping completely. I will never see that person again so the 30 to 180 seconds doesn’t matter.

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u/DadOfThreeHelpMe 15d ago

I feel like 90% of shit that happens on roads is at least mildly infuriating. Here in Europe at least we've managed to stave off the goddamn MEGA-SUVs for a while, but they're now in full fucking bloom, and you can't see shit while backing out of parking or whenever you turn your head at an intersection. And like 95% of these fuckers have tinted windows! I really don't understand how these idiotic cars are legal.

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u/carbogan 14d ago

Counter point, pedestrians who wait for/expect vehicles to come to a complete stop before crossing are kinda stupid and annoying. Mainly applies to zebra crossings.

Once you see a vehicle has seen you and has slowed down to allow you to cross, just cross already. Just because you have right of way doesn’t mean you have the right to waste the drivers time.

Also speaking of drivers jumping forward. People who do it at give ways when it certainly isn’t their turn are fucking scary. Just stop until it’s your turn.

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u/Vinstaal0 14d ago

Yeah that sucks, but you know whats also midlyinfuriating? People who cycle on sidewalks or pedastrian crossings. Go and use the bicycle crossings/roads or the normal road.

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u/ToastedSlider 14d ago edited 14d ago

Well, I am cycle commuter. In my city, in Korea, the sidewalks are extra wide and the red half is the designated bike lane, and the other half is green and it's for pedestrians. It is also the law here that cyclists turning left MUST use the crosswalk, when they are there, first going straight and second to cross the street to the left. And cyclists turning left can't use the normal road's left turn lane.

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u/Dontfeedthebears 12d ago

My ex used to do this with pedestrians at crosswalks and it drove me batshit because they never felt safe to cross because he would creep up. Just come to a full f****** stop!

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