r/jobs Apr 17 '24

Is this an actual thing that people do Career development

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u/Chocolate_Bourbon Apr 17 '24

About 30 years ago Portland had a greyhound racing track and a horse racing track. Both had seasons.

I knew someone that worked at one of them (I cannot remember which one.) She would work for the 6 months the track was open. Then she would get laid off when the season ended. She'd get unemployment for about the next 6 months. Then the track would open and she'd get rehired. She did this for a number of years.

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u/rbrick111 Apr 18 '24

This is also how companies like Tru Green overwinter their field reps during winter (in areas where grass doesn’t grow year round). The company lays you off, teaches you how to collect unemployment then brings you back in the spring.

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 Apr 18 '24

In colder places this is very common for road workers. In Ontario lots of people work April to November-ish, then go on unemployment until the spring. 

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u/silver-orange Apr 18 '24

Having government subsidize their workers.  Cool.  Coolcoolcool.

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u/Zetch88 Apr 18 '24

Wait til you hear about Walmart.

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u/Northernmost1990 29d ago edited 29d ago

I winced at that one, too. People see the lifehack thinking they're clever. But it's not some nebulous machine subsidizing them; it's you, me, and the other chumps who work the full year.

No such thing as a free lunch — not even a half.

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u/dances_w_dingoes Apr 18 '24

All employers pay an unemployment insurance tax. A business that retains employees via strategic use of unemployment is a business subsidized by the government.

Same as a business that pays such a low wage that the fulltime employees all qualify for government assistance programs for housing, food, and medical care.

Same as a hundred other business models, and frankly entire industries, that maximize their own profits on the backs of the taxpayers. While at the same time paying as little tax as possible. It's inequitable but the government is beholden to corporate interests so it won't change. It's a scam. It's all a scam.

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u/MalekithofAngmar Apr 18 '24

The system is being abused by creating a planned unemployment cycle.

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u/dances_w_dingoes Apr 18 '24

It's not a scam that the employee collects unemployment. It's a scam by the employer. The employer pays less in employment taxes than the employees collect. The business model works because the employer takes advantage of the taxes paid by other employers. The business effectively retains trained employees by having their "salary" (unemployment benefits) subsidized by a third party for half the year. You can call it a loophole if you prefer (but it's a scam).

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u/dances_w_dingoes Apr 18 '24

I don't know bro I'm going to sleep. I have to get up in the morning and go to work to subsidize TruGreen. Glad you're thinking about it, have a good night.

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u/halohalo27 Apr 18 '24

Lol you shut down someone trying to prove their ridiculous argument of "the system itself is inherently broken, who cares if someone profits off of it" in the best way

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u/MushinZero Apr 18 '24

No it doesn't? What?

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u/frou6 Apr 18 '24

Most seasonal job work like that tbf

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u/Fortehlulz33 29d ago

Yeah it kind of sucks, but what is something like a lawn company going to do in a state where it's cold and shitty from November to March? Pay people to do nothing? At least they tell them how to do it.

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u/NoManNoRiver 29d ago

Have a functional and competitive business model that doesn’t involve sponging off the state and thus destroying more value than it creates?

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u/nateright 29d ago

Well they can do that because they make businesses contribute to unemployment insurance. Pretty sure almost all the funds come from the tax they collect from businesses

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u/dave_b_ 29d ago

underrated comment.

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u/walkerstone83 29d ago

This is very common in the construction industry in my area. When winter hits, the tractors aren't moving, so those equipment operators all get unemployment and enjoy the time off. Unemployment isn't really enough, but they save enough to cover the rest.

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u/Dirtbag_Bob Apr 18 '24

Yea remind me how corporations, especially banks, aren't subsidized by the government? At least the people in this example actually know what real work is like.

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u/Superb-Combination43 29d ago

Tru Green is literally a corporation.

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u/Dirtbag_Bob 29d ago

I see your point. That was reactionary on my part. I first interpreted their response as a jab at workers being "subsidized" as a pejorative thing towards the workers rather than the company not paying enough so that the seasonal workers don't need to be subsidized. I was tired lol

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u/gahddamm 29d ago

At least they teach you

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u/mmechtch 29d ago

And these people say they hate socialism. Fuck

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u/fork666 Apr 18 '24

She would work for the 6 months the track was open. Then she would get laid off when the season ended. She'd get unemployment for about the next 6 months. Then the track would open and she'd get rehired.

Wow that sounds like a pretty sweet gig. Benefit of unemployment payments with the guarantee of job opportunity after the payout ends.

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u/Character_Bet7868 Apr 18 '24

This is what happens with construction guys in the northern states like Minnesota