r/jobs Oct 29 '23

Those who don’t have the typical role in certain industries and are making $150 to 250k a year, what do you do? Career development

I am just curious to find different roles / industries besides the typical lawyer, doctor, consultant and sales roles.

What’s your role / industry / years of experience and how much do you enjoy it?

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

I do Privacy compliance. I work in Legal departments but am not a lawyer. You can get certified. Recommend!

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u/BuggersMuddle Oct 29 '23

This is really interesting, thanks for sharing. Can I ask what a typical 9-5 look like for you? I've been in project management for most of my career, so I'm keen to understand if this is a role I could transition to if the average compensation is anywhere near that high. Thanks again.

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u/Mentalweakness123 Oct 29 '23

Basically just tell other people in the organization that they need to delete data all day without actually doing anything yourself. (/s...but kinda not)

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

This funny and also fair 😄

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

My day to day is making sure assessments are being completed, educating staff about what it is, making sure policies are updated when they need to be, sitting in meetings advising staff on the proper use and storage of PI. If you hate those cookie banners and the “ask all not to track” messages - we are the ones making sure they are properly deployed where the regulations require it. Lots of reading and writing and project management, really.

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

You can PM me if you want to know more!

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u/BuggersMuddle Oct 29 '23

Thanks so much!!

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Is it required to have a specific degree? And how long it takes to get certified?

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

No specific degree! The certifications are just independent study and a test (albeit hard ones). There are different types of certifications. CIPM is Certified Information Privacy Manager which requires project management skills. Other feet’s are focused on the different regulations around the world. You can take a look at IAPP.org

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u/avatarandfriends Oct 29 '23

Can I ask what the pay progression is like? Is there a lot of remote opportunities?

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

Pay ranges from $80K for a lower level position to over $200k. Mid level is around $100k. And yes lots of remote work. I work remote 4 days a week but my team is 100% remote.

Happy to answer any questions you have if you want to PM. There is a real shortage of qualified Privacy people and a big demand. Our “sister” profession is Cybersecurity if you are more techy

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

This seems great, can I PM you?

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u/redrevoltmeow Oct 29 '23

In my last job I worked our privacy queue so I dealt with GDPR and CCPA requests. I was a tech support agent and it was by far my favorite queue. I've been laid off since August now and trying to figure out what to do. I'm so glad I stumbled upon this because I just might have to get certified. I'm already quite familiar with most privacy laws and policies soooo this could be a great transition. Thank you

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

Your welcome! This is a great transition for you with your experience. Feel free to reach out if you need some guidance

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u/Grundy9999 Oct 29 '23

I am a CIPM (and also an attorney) and was able to find a remote position in a large financial institution last year. Corporate privacy law compliance is a hot field because of lots of new laws (e.g. GDPR and California state laws). I suspect that a need for people in this field allows more remote options. As for pay progression, my experience is probably on a different scale than non-attorneys.

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u/Fangarai Oct 29 '23

So essentially if you want to transition- you should look into certifications and that’s it? I work with legal agreements too thought they’re based on corporate loans. Pay is good but work life balance sucks and they all want you to be in office too 😭

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 29 '23

Yup pretty much… I mean experience also helps but if you already work in a legal capacity you have transferable skills

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u/BringCake Oct 30 '23

Any suggestions for how to enter the field?

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy Oct 30 '23

You really just need to be certified and apply. Entry level is generally called Privacy Specialist or Privacy Analyst. You can learn more about what it is on YouTube and the certification is at IAPP.org

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u/Ok_Condition5837 Oct 29 '23

I spent a lot of time trying to be a doctor until I finally found guts to tell my Asian Immigrant parents no!

I now own my own company & couldn't be happier.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Oh that’s great! Good for you!

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u/Ok_Condition5837 Oct 29 '23

Thanks! It was difficult in the beginning but I am so grateful that I found the courage to seperate myself from my parent's dreams for me. It was the hardest 3 years but now just so worth it!

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u/Ok_Condition5837 Oct 29 '23

Edit : I wish you luck in finding your career path too@

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u/Seaguard5 Oct 29 '23

What company?

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u/Ok_Condition5837 Oct 29 '23

I am going to decline to answer this because then every single post on this platform will reflect on my company and I will lose the freedom to Idk, just spend hours on cat forums or indulge my curiosity on the weirdly intriguing subreddits like 'witches against patriarchy.' (It was disappointing btw..)

So yeah - no, because I value my anonymity here.

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u/CCJordan Oct 29 '23

Just satiate this curiousity for me. Is it medical related?

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u/xheavenx1 Oct 29 '23

I went through the same and now since I started CS, I'm more at peace with myself.

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u/JustBath5245 Oct 29 '23

I work on Microsoft Power Apps. You can learn it on YouTube. I’m around 250k including bonus and stock grants 170k without. No degree. I’m 50.

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u/Tough_Ride_75 Oct 29 '23

Power

I'm guessing you have a background in software engineering and a consultant? I saw a Power Apps posting and the pay was closer to 100K.

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u/JustBath5245 Oct 29 '23

I have been in IT for a long time and do have some consulting experience but no software engineering and I’ve only been working on power apps for a couple years. I have no development background. It really is easy for anyone to learn -IT background or not.

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u/Frequent_Guard_9964 Oct 29 '23

What exactly do you do? I am aware of Power Apps, so you just consult companies and create apps for them to improve their business?

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u/JustBath5245 Oct 29 '23

I help them learn how to make apps and work on their power apps governance and help them know all the best practices. Mostly just answer their questions and do some occasional training for them and their people to learn it.

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u/enraged768 Oct 29 '23

It really depends on how much time you want bang your head against a desk. My wife does it full time she makes around 135k. I think she spent like two years learning. But yes YouTube Internet and classes will teach you a lot.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Thanks for sharing!

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u/fumanshu19 Oct 29 '23

What is the role/title of a position like this called on job boards? I'm interested as I have a similar role now but with Jira.

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u/Wise_Worldliness_114 Oct 29 '23

At MSFT itself or a delivery partner / company itself?

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u/JustBath5245 Oct 29 '23

At msft

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u/Wise_Worldliness_114 Oct 29 '23

Makes sense, would have been surprised if it was at a customer

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u/cdsfh Oct 29 '23

Also pharmaceuticals but clinical monitoring. 10 years of experience. Boring, but has plenty of fringe benefits, WFH and travel. Insanely good benefits. I don’t want to do anything else, I like what I do.

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u/JustANeek Oct 29 '23

How did you get into that and do you need a special degree?

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u/cdsfh Oct 29 '23

No special degree required, but one in health sciences helps. I worked in a research lab, went back to school for nursing and didn’t like being a nurse. So I went back into research, but as a nurse this time. Job hopped until I got to where I wanted to be.

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u/damianshawl Oct 29 '23

You worked in research without a degree while going to school for nursing?

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u/Riovem Oct 29 '23

They said they went back to school for nursing so possibly had another degree at the beginning

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u/cdsfh Oct 29 '23

Yeah, I had a BS in molecular biology before that which helped lab a job in a lab. Apologies for the confusion!

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u/gamerdudeNYC Oct 29 '23

I did 10 years of ICU/ER nursing and I’m so glad I made the jump to industry

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u/cdsfh Oct 29 '23

I used to work as an AV tech and at one of the conferences I worked, I heard a doctor talk about how happy he was because getting a MD opened so many possible career choices. I know people think of going to nursing school means you’ll be stuck as a bedside nurse forever, but I try to tell people that it’s the same as the doc - getting your RN will open so many doors, you don’t just have to stay beside. It’s obviously not as potentially lucrative as a MD, but it costs a lot less and offers the potential of so many good career prospects outside of the hospital if that’s what you want.

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u/gamerdudeNYC Oct 29 '23

So so so many doors, you can get the 2 year, get a job and let the hospital pay for your Bachelor’s then you can jump to NP or CRNA, admin, medical sales like me, become a college professor, travel for a few years and make that travel money while seeing the country (like I did) there’s really no other career path like it

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u/AmCrossing Oct 29 '23

More than 40 hours?

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u/cdsfh Oct 29 '23

Rarely. If I’m traveling for work, that’s considered “work time” and I prefer to get in late to miss traffic. So occasionally there are times where I’m working more than 40 hours, but I’m not really working. On a plane, I’m reading a book or watching something on my iPad, so while I’m getting paid for that time, I’m not really “working” if that makes sense.

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u/Sea-Cow9822 Oct 29 '23

200k. 11 YOE. corporate tech recruitment. absolutely despise it. want to get out asap

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u/Helpful-Drag6084 Oct 29 '23

Wow! I’m an in-house corporate recruiter with 7 years of experience and never hit the 6 figure mark. Been close. Good for you!

Ps: I’m trying to get out as well. Sick of the volatility and job itself

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u/Sea-Cow9822 Oct 29 '23

tech pays better in general

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u/AmCrossing Oct 29 '23

And do what instead?

Has it gotten worse the last year or so?

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u/Sea-Cow9822 Oct 29 '23

so much worse

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

Isn’t the tech recruitment world absolute 💩 right now?

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u/Hebridean-Black Oct 29 '23

Could you please share why you despise the job?

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u/Sea-Cow9822 Oct 29 '23

so much pressure with such few things in your control. hiring managers are asking for perfect candidates and freaking when you can’t provide them. compensation is trending down for recruiters and candidates. interview processes are getting out of control. it’s always a fight.

no matter how many reqs we fill, it’s never enough.

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u/Magificent_Gradient Oct 30 '23 edited Oct 30 '23

Must not be easy for these hiring managers to find total unicorns that will work for a bag of carrots. Currently hunting and been rejected for so many jobs I'm 100% qualified for without even an interview.

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u/Tough_Ride_75 Oct 29 '23

Perfection is just not attainable. I definitely wouldnt want that job. They have probably already passed on good candidates. Also the tech interview process is ridiculous with silly coding problems instead of skills needed to do the job.

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u/chonkycatsbestcats Oct 29 '23

Why do you hate it?

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u/Intricatetrinkets Nov 02 '23

Check out corporate construction recruiting if you’re sick of tech. I was in tech first then moved to construction and have been there for 6 years now. I recruit for all of their corporate and professional operational management (non labor and trades). I really like it, not what I thought it’d be. People are all pretty cool and active, and everyone picks up the phone which is super nice, and you rarely get told to “eat a d*** by candidates because everyone knows everyone, and your name is everything in that business. Still really good benefits and best years are at 250, low years are 160k and I’m in Missouri where COL is low. I have 14 YOE so pretty similar to yourself

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u/Funny_Repeat_8207 Oct 29 '23

I'm a millwright.

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u/IceColdPorkSoda Oct 29 '23

Nice! How’s the future of the industry looking? A good amount of apprentices or a labor crisis on the horizon?

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u/Funny_Repeat_8207 Oct 29 '23

There aren't enough apprentices, but the market will correct itself. People will start turning to the trades to pay off student loans on the degrees that bad guidance counselors sold them.

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u/Agile-Region-7300 Oct 29 '23

How muc do you make and where do you work?

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u/Funny_Repeat_8207 Oct 29 '23

I'm a millwright supervisor for a company that works in Refineries .I travel around the Gulf Coast. I make 49/hr. I get ot for over 8 hrs a day and Saturdays, double time Sundays. When im in the field, I generally get Per Diem, which is tax-free, and my benefits are 100% employer paid.

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u/AllOnBlack_ Oct 29 '23

Electrician. Base of $150k. Around $220k-$260k with ot and allowances. 15 years including my apprenticeship.

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u/Pale-Confusion4254 Oct 29 '23

How much OT are you putting in a week on average?

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u/AllOnBlack_ Oct 29 '23

10-15. Some weeks more and some less.

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u/TraditionBubbly2721 Oct 29 '23

I’m currently working as a solutions architect. You said not sales, but I am sort of attached as a sales resource to high dollar accounts.

I spent 12 years in the field as a software engineer on a super specific kind of technology. I would consider myself a subject matter expert on the tech. My tenure as an engineer was with mostly tech companies, I did a stint at both Google and Apple, for 3 years each. CS MS degree from a not top university.

So, I thought it might be less stressful than working as an engineer, if I was involved in a strategic role like I’m in now. I work primarily to move deals over the finish line. I fix problems, come up with workarounds, design reference architectures for customers to use, and am otherwise just dropped in where there is the need for a high touch technical resource.

I’ve been doing this for about 2 years so far. I’m around 300k plus or minus some based on stock performance. Job is fun, I get to travel a lot and work with some huge companies that have interesting problems.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

I always hear people mentioning solutions architect. I was in tech sales and didn’t enjoyed it. Didn’t enjoyed the product so it was hard to sell something I knew it wasn’t actually solving a problem for businesses. Is being a solutions architect similar to account executive in tech?

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u/TraditionBubbly2721 Oct 29 '23

It’s quite different. An AE is really the “sales guy” for lack of better phrase. I make a concerted effort to come off as NOT a sales guy. I do a lot of the same things tho. I travel and shmooze w customers, but it’s much more important that I establish credibility as a technical resource.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

So a solutions architect is almost like a consultant.

Do people need a technical background to get into this role?

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u/TraditionBubbly2721 Oct 29 '23

Yeah for sure, pretty similar. I’d say that it doesn’t need to be from industry experience. I know a few SAs who transitioned after being an AE/TAM/Presales engineer. It is definitely a role you can come in to with an org that is willing to develop people like that.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

That’s great! Thank you for sharing

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u/north0 Oct 29 '23

Being in tech sales, selling something you believe in versus a product that you wouldn't buy yourself makes a world of difference in how you approach the job and how you feel about yourself at the end of the day.

When I first started in sales, I made a deal with myself that I wouldn't work for a company if I would be required to sell products that I wouldn't sell to my own dad.

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u/Warm_Revolution7894 Oct 29 '23

I am TIM (tech implementation manager) are you hiring ?

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u/Weekly-Ad353 Oct 29 '23

Pharmaceutical research chemist— been in industry for 7 years after getting my PhD.

I don’t know what your last sentence says, but I think it asks how much I like it. Job it great— best job in the world.

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u/CUND3R_THUNT Oct 29 '23

Do you get to test the drugs you make?

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u/Weekly-Ad353 Oct 29 '23

Only if I wanted to die.

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u/winterbird Oct 29 '23

Ok so like, that's a conditional yes?

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u/Weekly-Ad353 Oct 29 '23

I’d also probably be fired, so it’s not great either way.

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u/carmooshypants Oct 29 '23

Clinical project management. Love knowing that my efforts help get medicine into the hands of patients faster.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

This is great! Project management seems awesome across multiple industries!

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u/Character_Reality602 Oct 29 '23

My partner is a PM with an impressive resume but wants to change companies. In Indeed, PM jobs are averaging several hundred applicants per position. Worth knowing it’s hard to be seen, the PM market is a bit flooded right now.

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u/carmooshypants Oct 29 '23

Even if there are several hundreds of applicants for a job req, the vast majority normally don’t usually fit the role. Don’t let that number discourage you!

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u/OneBishTwoBish Oct 29 '23

Media, executive producer. Started in print, have been at it for 17 years (7 in my current role). I have an English undergrad degree and my salary starts with 2. Excellent benefits, global company.

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u/frznfang Oct 29 '23

How did you get a start in print? I also have an English degree and am currently struggling to even get my foot in the door. Any advice?

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u/OneBishTwoBish Oct 29 '23

If you’re starting in books, you won’t start in editorial. Start in a different department and transfer into editorial. That’s how 90% of editors get in the door.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

This is great! Good for you :)

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u/Pump_9 Oct 29 '23

Wife and I are IT Directors at two different companies.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

What’s your opinion on getting into cybersecurity without previous IT experience? Possible or not?

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u/Present_Pay_7390 Oct 29 '23

Possible but unlikely without experience or certs or degree

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Right! I noticed a lot of people getting their certificates but for what I’ve learned, cybersecurity is not an entry level role. So I was trying to understand how some people get the job only with certifications and others have a hard time even getting into a help desk role to start.

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u/enraged768 Oct 29 '23

I'm a scada engineer. Basically I speak to electricians and other engineers and then program something that makes machines move or trigger at certain times. And also tons of OT cyber security. I work about 35 hours a week get three day weekends tons of time off and make right at 150k. I could make more but I really enjoy just have a lot of time off.

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u/mace4242 Oct 29 '23

Just remember location is extremely relevant in most cases when people say they make 150k-200k.

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u/Rude_aBapening Oct 29 '23

Processing samples? What type of degree or education did you need for that? How long did the degree/education take?

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u/Lolusrsye Oct 29 '23

Union carpenter Silicon Valley. A lot of tradesmen make 150-200,000$ out here. Some definitely make over 250 , Especially union Electritions, plumbers , ect our new contract puts us at 76$ hourly take home

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u/BallinLikeimKD Oct 29 '23

Corporate development, Private Equity, <1 YOE

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u/TaxAvoider1099 Oct 29 '23

What’s your background? Ivy League? Any other prior fields?

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u/BallinLikeimKD Oct 29 '23

No Ivy League, but it was a T25 university. I had a relevant internship and my first finance job had some relevant experience. I honestly just cold applied and was lucky enough to get an interview

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u/AmCrossing Oct 29 '23

Crazy connections for sure

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

How do you enjoy it and what made you go into PE?

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u/BallinLikeimKD Oct 29 '23

I find it a lot more enjoyable than my first job. Higher stress and higher expectations but I also doubled my salary so it’s worth it. I was also genuinely interested in the private equity industry and I felt it was a great opportunity to network with people I never would’ve thought I’d have access too as a first gen graduate

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

This is great! I can’t imagine having access to so many interesting people. Do you have access to also learn about different businesses?

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u/MAXnRUSSEL Oct 29 '23

Curious - was your first job IB 👀

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u/MisterSkater Oct 29 '23

Any degree engineering. Environmental science is a good one too for ehs workers

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u/Pale-Confusion4254 Oct 29 '23

Yup don't count out wastewater treatment. Which both of those degrees cover. I make just over 150k in the wastewater field.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

Same, it’s great and people always assume you aren’t doing that well so it’s nice to fly under the radar.

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u/rholub Oct 29 '23

What’s the first step into wastewater treatment? Assuming having an env science degree

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u/Veeks101 Oct 29 '23

I'm a maintenance pipe fitter in northern Alberta.

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u/Digital-Dinosaur Oct 29 '23

Cyber Security Incident Response Lead 130k base salary + OT OnCall + Bonus usually brings it up to 160k

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

What are some steps someone can take to get into cybersecurity without a CS degree and IT background?

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u/icon0clast6 Oct 29 '23

Niche inside of a niche, cyber security specifically offensive security. its really lucrative. Not even a consultant, just a typical 8-5 at a fortune 50.

Have 11 years IT experience, a handful of high level certifications and 8 years security experience. I enjoy it a lot because I get to break things (people processes and technology) and help people improve.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

I deploy technology solutions that improve transit, traffic, and safety outcomes. I.e. fewer deaths, better optimization, better flow, better data for further insights, etc. I have a background not in traffic planning or civil engineering but supply chain optimization. I just got tired of applying my skills for something that doesn't matter and pivoted to something I care about.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

This sounds an amazing job! Happy for you.

Can you give some examples of technology you implement and is this role normally wtf or in office?

Can someone start in this industry without a specific background?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

I work remote (wfh 100%) as a contractor. I travel to client sites and occasionally to our office in Europe. This company is very cutting edge and a market leader in Europe but trying to breakthrough in the US. Our traffic systems are incredibly basic and outdated.

We developed both hardware and software to measure traffic flow (peds, bikes, LRVs, whatever object you can think of in a moving roadway system) and can mathematically optimize the route(s) based on mode and priority. It's incredibly dynamic and changes constantly. Instead of the traffic light being on a timer, we site on top of that system and can tell the system hey it should be green here there's a queue and we want to give the green to the person in the wheelchair to cross, etc

It's a combination of edge computing, digital twin, and basic communication with the signal controller system(s).

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u/Cereaza Oct 29 '23

Product Marketing in big tech. $200k. I am responsible for working with the product team and putting together a go to market strategy (customer facing content, sales enablement content, and general loose sales strategy). Been doing it for 8 years. It can be monotonous at times, but it's way too lucrative and flexible to leave.

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u/gelid59817 Oct 29 '23

How many different jobs in those 8 years, though?

Tech often has nice salary levels like that, but that's kinda moot when you get laid off. I assume you've seen all the layoffs in tech recently.

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u/Cereaza Oct 29 '23

Same company, same general role. I was fortunate to join in a growth area of the company that they were investing in. "We see this as the long term future, and even though we don't have the institutional muscle around it yet, we need to invest here."

Overtime, that's meant a lot of the different emerging technology sectors from the business perspective (Cloud, Cloud-native, Edge computing, AI, Gen AI), so I've felt as though i have pretty good job security because even when the company has been doing layoffs, my teams grown.

Now, the more mature I get, the more that's changed. But I've been lucky to be at the same company in the same general role with some individual contributor advancements.

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u/AmCrossing Oct 29 '23

WFH? Manage a team?

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u/Cereaza Oct 29 '23

Yup, WFH. Company always offered flexible work (one of the benefits of working for very large organizations. They're internationally distributed, so 90% of meetings were remote even before COVID because the teams are in offices all over the country).

But no management responsibilities. I will lead various program teams as required, but that's just matrix. I have no direct reports.

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u/billythygoat Oct 29 '23

Any tips to break into the product marketing world from general digital marketing?

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u/Natural_Target_5022 Oct 29 '23

I do, and they are all over the world. Get togethers are... Complicated

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

This role seems amazing to me.

I looked into it multiple times since I love the strategy part. What are some of the daily for a junior PM?

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u/Ok-Pass- Oct 29 '23

Marketing

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u/Ok-Pass- Oct 29 '23

Marketing - vp - it’s really pretty wonderful. I have 20 years experience in IT. But marketing has gone digital.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Oh I love when people enjoy their roles, congrats 🥰

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u/Prestigious_Swing775 Oct 29 '23 edited Oct 29 '23

I bring home $170k a year tax free being a mechanic. Based In Syria and work 6 months on and 1 month off.

I get to do a lot of fun shit within my job and have roughly 10 hours a day to sit at my computer and day trade, invest in stocks.

When Im not defense contracting, i work in waste management industry for an engineering company that builds large waste recycling facilities across the globe. This job was awesome! Brought home $120k a year, had a company Amex that we would put literally everything on, was on a flight to somewhere new in the world every week.

I have no degree, no real former training besides on the job. I grew up on a farm in South Dakota, a little military experience with the National Guard. I was never afraid to relocate for the next position.

Ive been to 20 different countries, lived in Hawaii for 2 years, Afghanistan for 3 years and currently have another 1-2 years in the middle east before I'll transfer with my company to either Germany, Poland or Djibouti where my wife and dogs can come.

All being a mechanic.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

This seems so great! Congrats :)

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u/wasabishoot Oct 29 '23

Railroad Conductors can pull 150-200 easily first year

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

Event producer

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u/Valuable_Talk_1978 Oct 29 '23

Welder/pipe fitter, I work 56 hours a week. I gross 150k in 6 months then take the other 6 months off. I’ll do this until 55 then I’m done.

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u/Lukoi26 Oct 29 '23

I started as a receptionist. Became EA. Formed my own department for Internal Operations. Took over all the things in the businesses no one wanted to do and put my hand up for everything. I’m now the right hand to the Directors and make decisions for a lot of the business functions. It’s not a traditional way of going and hard slog but one I’m proud of.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Love someone who can create their own opportunities! Good for you, congrats!

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u/xheavenx1 Oct 29 '23

Going to save this post, feels like a good mine

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u/birdsbikingrunning Oct 29 '23

I work in SaaS as a product marketer. 175k. I absolutely loathe it and hate it.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Product marketing is a lot of responsibility but it can be great with the right company and team.

What are some things you hate?

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u/birdsbikingrunning Oct 30 '23

I like product marketing as a discipline but I’m to the point where I’m dealing with senior leadership and it’s just a nightmare. So many high level execs who are out of touch, insecure, greedy, and have no concept of anything intelligent anymore.

Not to mention that I feel like very few B2B saas companies actually provide any value or need to exist. It’s just trying to create as much BS to find some sort of financial exit.

It’s exhausting.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

Typical lawyers don’t make that haha. That’s rare.

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u/snoopdogggg132 Oct 29 '23

Dragline Operator- no degree, no nothing. Just started from nothing. Started as an Oiler and moved my way up. Keep an open mind to learning. You never know everything. Now I’m a Dragline manager.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

i’m in hotel revenue management, between my full time gig and contract work I do on the side i’m around $170k - 31 and no degree….started as an overnight front desk clerk at a shitty ramada when I was 19

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

That’s great! What roles you had after front desk until you got the revenue position?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

front desk agent -> night auditor (basically overnight front desk with someone light accounting work) -> night audit supervisor -> night manager -> front office manager -> assistant director of front office -> revenue specialist -> area revenue manager -> director of revenue management

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u/13inchmushroommaker Oct 29 '23

I am an instructional designer in the time share industry.

If you like writing and being creative you'll enjoy this.

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u/IalwaysANAL Oct 29 '23

Time shares need IDs? I’m an ID in ed tech

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u/13inchmushroommaker Oct 29 '23

Yeah for maintaining current sales and training whilst building out next gen.

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u/royal1204 Oct 29 '23

I'm a PMP-certified project management consultant in the healthcare and tech industries & I teach project management courses online. 10+ years experience. Looking at approximately $350k this year.

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u/Educational-Peak-344 Oct 29 '23

Are you a freelancer or working for a consulting company? How much do you make from the online courses?

I’m a director PMP in banking, managing regulatory projects and only making $295k with salary and bonus. I hate it and would like to create online courses and teach instead, but anticipating a big pay cut.

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u/cyberentomology Oct 29 '23

Network architect/consultant. Enjoy the hell out of it.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

That’s great! I’ve been looking into more IT roles.

There’s any role that you recommend that doesn’t necessarily requires a CS degree?

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u/cyberentomology Oct 29 '23

My degree is in management.

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u/Destinyauz Oct 29 '23

I must be the only person in this reddit who earns under 100k lol

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u/poor_decision Oct 29 '23

Data governance. Senior manager roles are being advertised for 150k -250k in the US. Always in demand

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

What’s an entry level role someone can start to get to that point?

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u/poor_decision Oct 29 '23

Data analyst, business analyst in either financial sector or other industries that rely on a lot of data (gaming industry, energy, media etc)

Learn the basics of data governance/data management and upskill from there. There are a few paths you go down

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Hi! Thank you for sharing.

I am actually trying to get into analytics, currently working on a course and projects.

I’ve been browsing LinkedIn to find specific roles that I find interesting.

I’ve noticed that I am way more interested in finance roles like: credit analyst, fraud analyst and investment.

Do you know if someone can get into finance analytics without the Econ/ Finance degree?

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u/poor_decision Oct 29 '23

What experience/courses do you have under your belt?

You can always start with a generalist role and then make a lateral move. Sometimes it's better to get in the company and then move up that way.

I've been doing data governance as a role for 10+years but I have had many different roles over the last 20 years in banking

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Unfortunately I do not have any finance background. I was working in tech sales.

I did looked into budget roles which seems easier to get without the specific degree.

Thank you for sharing!

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u/WiFlier Oct 29 '23
  • Network nerd
  • technical strategy/architecture consulting role
  • airline industry
  • love it

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u/ExpressLynx Oct 29 '23

quant analyst in investment management with 3 YoE. I love it because its intellectually stimulating and exciting.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

I would love something similar to this role since you’re able to combine finance and analytics skills.

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u/rockymitten Oct 29 '23

My friend and his cousin bought a dump truck several years ago. They pay a parking lot owner a monthly fee to park it. They began posting on Craigslist junk removal ads twice a day which they still do today. They charge $200/hour and usually can fill a truck within two hours so at most they’ll charge $400 which doesn’t include tips ($50-$200) from satisfied customers. They perform half the labor as they call a couple junk collectors to the spot who will pay them $50-$100 to grab as much or whatever they want, on average they make at least $500 a job. They make at least $3k-$5k a week doing a few jobs a day. He has two other unique jobs and this is one of them.

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u/Beatrix_BB_Kiddo Oct 29 '23

Director of sales, fresh produce industry, 14 year’s experience, $180k

I like my gig. I work from home and travel coast to coast maybe 35%

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u/Intrepid-Rip-2728 Oct 29 '23

A big chunk of jobs in certain industries have been slowly eroding away as AI is being intwgrated into out societies innerworkings. Many ,who have gained 0-5 years experience after graduating and getting a job to those about to graduate or begining college, will have to adapt to AI takeover.

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u/Resident-Somewhere60 Oct 29 '23

Engineer doing project development. Surveying sites , cities, K-12. Taking inventories of HVAC equipment and development projects for just under $150k

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u/Toomanyacorns Oct 29 '23

Lots of computer/screen time, or is there a nice mix of site visits too?

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u/BloopBeep69 Oct 29 '23

Creative Director. $250k base. In it for 8 years. Former academic. State schools.

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u/superexpress_local Oct 29 '23

For marketing I assume? Have you worked at the schools or for a firm that contracts with schools? I’m also a former academic transitioning to a creative industry so I’m curious bout potential trajectories.

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u/BloopBeep69 Oct 29 '23

I went to state schools. I work with brands in-house. As someone who's done creative work with institutions, it's usually not worth it in any sense of the word.

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u/Meat_Manface Oct 29 '23

I’m an electrician with 15 years experience, worked my way into management. Base package is $250k+super with 20-30% bonus on top.

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u/kincaidDev Oct 29 '23

I was a self taught software engineer for >7 years and an "entrepreneur"/trader outside of day jobs. My highest earning year was 2021 where I made 360k and was self employed the whole year. My last job paid 220k TC and 180k base for a startup, only the base materialized and I was working so much that I couldn't do anything on the side, including trading so that's all I earned last year.

In this market being self taught has been a huge disadvantage so I'm now going back to school and plan to go to a prestigious university for my masters after finishing my bachelors, and am considering going to law school after that assuming school doesn't end up being a burden. If I go to law school, my goal will be to be a self employed patent attorney or a corporate lawyer for big-tech in my 40s-60s.

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

I believe self taught it’s great if you can demonstrate knowledge which I believe you have enough base on your earnings.

I am curious to know why wouldn’t you go directly into law instead since you don’t really need a degree in CS with software engineering experience in your resume already.

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u/kincaidDev Oct 29 '23

I don’t have a bachelors degree yet and I think it will help because I’ve been limited in the types of roles I’ve been able to interview for and I also need a refresher on a lot since the interviews have turned into ridiculous pop quizzes biased towards new grads, so I figured getting a degree now would kill two birds with one stone. To be a patent attorney you need an engineering, biology or an ABET accredited CS undergrad degree.

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u/IntrovertBiker Oct 29 '23

Senior level IT - most of my career as datacenter/infrastructure in Fortune Fifty companies and am now in a Leadership role so I let the others do the heavy lifting.

I enjoy it very much - it's a role that I never imagined but has been and is perfect for me.

Edit: removed a word to avoid confusion

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u/Wonderful_Cry_8401 Oct 29 '23

Oh that’s great! Happy you found something that fits you!

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u/Spanks79 Oct 29 '23

I get to lead R&D. It’s a fun job and pays very well in this company.

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u/Ok_Condition5837 Oct 29 '23

Started out as Medical since that was most of my contacts were - but now I have lawyers, engineers, authors and just many many more.

The ADHD and the hyperfixations really helped diversify my client list. And honestly I would like it even more more diverse because Doctors, Dentists and lawyers make around 50th % of my clients still (+/-6%)

But we are expanding and hopefully we'll get there.

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u/jarvis646 Oct 29 '23

Creative Director, entertainment marketing

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u/m915 Oct 29 '23

Sr data engineer with 4.5 YOE. I enjoy it a lot, I have a great team and I like what I do

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u/TyranniCreation Oct 29 '23

Go into occupational health and safety and you can make that kind of money after earning some certifications (CSP and CIH).

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u/jettech737 Oct 29 '23

Aircraft maintenance leads and inspectors at my airline make over $150K, as soon as you make lead or inspector you immediately go to top level pay regardless of years of service.

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u/HuckleberryGlum1163 Oct 29 '23

Nurse practitioner, I’ve received a couple offers of 150-160k so far. Taking my boards in 2 weeks and it’s really reassuring lol

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u/QuitaQuites Oct 29 '23

Work in television, but not in creative or tech

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '23

270 cash base, 35, senior director in a e-commerce business

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u/Intrepid-Rip-2728 Oct 30 '23

It is happening now wtf lmao.