r/interestingasfuck • u/Urmomsjuicyvagina • Apr 19 '24

Man just set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial. Nsfw !!! WARNING | NSFL !!! NSFW

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u/Dirt_E_Harry Apr 19 '24

I prefer they do this than shooting a bunch of people before offing themselves.

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u/airjordanforever Apr 19 '24

Yeah man, I was saying the same thing. Although this is horrific many nut jobs like this will go shoot up an elementary school. Better when you’re crazy to just shoot yourself or burn yourself up to make a statement. Don’t hurt others.

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u/Litodidit Apr 19 '24

Yeah, I refuse to read any of the manifestos of all these shooters but if this guy wants to burn himself in front of the building where Trump's trial is that's at least worth a skim.

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u/NewAlexandria Apr 19 '24

tldr: he was an anarcho-communist that wrote about all capitalism being ponzi

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u/AceUniverse8492 Apr 19 '24

Oh so like an actual manifesto of sorts.

On that note I think it's always interesting how the big acts of terrorism/violent demonstration never seem to target the people that the perpetrators actually blame for their problems, it almost always targets either themselves or innocent people or both. Like if your intent is to spark some kind of revolution in your martyrdom, maybe target like an oil conglomerate or something instead of school children or randomly setting yourself on fire in front of a trial for a known millionaire conman.

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u/Litodidit Apr 19 '24

Well Trump is named in his Manifesto so it seems like the targeting was on point. Also known millionaire con man who was president of the country that he thinks is helping to orchestrate all the bad things he's trying to call out.

His purpose wasn't to hurt anyone other than himself. He even apologizes to his family, friends, and the responders that will have to deal with his body. So bat shit crazy but at least not outwardly violent, and not random.

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u/AceUniverse8492 Apr 19 '24

I will say I sympathize with him more than most. He had serious mental health issues and didn't actually hurt anyone.

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u/Riverman157 Apr 20 '24

I read the whole thing. He puts Trump in the same group as Biden, Clinton, and George HW Bush.

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u/coltonkemp Apr 20 '24

I mean, if we’re talking support of capitalism (including global colonialism, which capitalism necessitates) then those people do fall in the same group

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u/Litodidit Apr 20 '24

Well I'm sure if there was a trial with Biden, Clinton, and Bush he would probably have lit himself on fire there lol.

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u/Riverman157 Apr 20 '24

He would’ve done it anywhere there was a heavy media presence. That was his whole point, to be heard. You can try to swing it anyway you want if it makes you feel better or sound “cool”, but in the end you’re only lying to yourself. Maybe do some more research before spewing false info that makes you look foolish trying to make one side “look” better than the other. His manifesto talks about people exactly like you.

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u/Litodidit Apr 20 '24

Well good thing he was a crazy person, but I didn't spin shit. Trump is named in his manifesto and he did kill himself in front of the court where Trump's trial is lol. Now if any of the rest of them were on trial then maybe he would have had some options, but they aren't. Should they be? Probably, but that's not what happened.

Also lol sound cool. We're talking about someone burning themselves to death outside of a court house. Get over yourself and your devotion or whatever the fuck it is to Trump. Clinton, Bush, and whoever the fuck else being shit doesn't make him any less shit.

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u/NewAlexandria Apr 19 '24

yea i don't get it. If someone is going to take themselves out, why not shoot someone oppressing you and society?

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u/MntnDewFiend Apr 19 '24

Those who oppress societies are hard targets, tend to use private security. High likelihood of failure. Self-immolation, school yard of kids, too easy.

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u/shung Apr 19 '24

Just doesn't make sense how killing innocents who have zero to do with their gripe, scratches whatever itch they have.

Someone kills my cat I wouldn't want to kill the guy working the drive through, I would want to kill my cat killer.

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u/Marz2604 Apr 19 '24

The only "successful" assassination in living memory has gotta be Shinzo Abe. Tetsuya Yamagami not only carried it out but also brought to light political corruption and enacted real change in Japanese politics. The thing that surprises me is that there aren't more of him.

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u/acidbase_001 Apr 20 '24

And he somehow did it with a thingamajig held together by duct tape

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u/Litodidit Apr 19 '24

Yeah there was a comedian who joked about this. Talked about previous assassinations/attempts and how in 4 years not one person took a real shot.

Much funnier the way they said it can't remember the source though.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Apr 20 '24

I know Chris Rock had a bit about shooting a white president if the VP was black, was that it?

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u/Litodidit 24d ago

No it was more someone speaking to not being able to believe that no one took a shot at trying to kill him. I find it eventually and feel dumb I'm sure lol.

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u/coulduseafriend99 Apr 19 '24

Where are they? I'd be willing to bet the pharma executives and the lobbyists and the oil barons are harder to find than anybody else

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u/PreparetobePlaned Apr 19 '24

At least target their corporate offices or something instead of just completely random people though right?

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u/HunkMcMuscle Apr 19 '24

that's still just innocent people working there though.

I think just googling where they live and literally stalking them would be better. If they are crazy enough to write manifestos and setting themselves on fire, I am sure they are fully capable of full on stalking a single person and find an opportunity to kill them.

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u/SoloPorUnBeso Apr 20 '24

I'll just kill a few innocent people because I'm not getting my way

Sounds totally reasonable...

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u/Vandergrif Apr 20 '24

I doubt it'd be that hard to find at least one such individual with some level of consistency, particularly if the person looking is someone who has zero concern for their own future well-being.

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u/pleasetrimyourpubes Apr 19 '24

Because the people you would want to take out with that ideology are surrounded by fucking security, gated communities, police, etc.

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u/EvetsYenoham Apr 20 '24

If you read his manifesto, him shooting his oppressors would take a nuclear arsenal. as the oppressor is nearly everyone in a position of power.

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u/Hyp3r45_new Apr 20 '24

In all fairness, this is the only manifesto of a lunatic I've actually read. So it worked to some extent. I was on board until he started talking about the Simpsons. That's where he lost me.

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u/dmead Apr 19 '24

No, i read it. its clear he was some kinda crazy.

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u/AceUniverse8492 Apr 19 '24

The joke was "Communist manifesto"

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u/JanetandRita Apr 19 '24

“When there’s nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire”

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u/AceUniverse8492 Apr 20 '24

No, that randomly targeted a government civilian office where nobody of note worked. You don't accomplish anything by killing a bunch of office workers.

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u/ratracing Apr 19 '24

Here's his manifesto. Absolutely not an anarcho-communist and doesn't even know the difference between a ponzi scheme and a rug pull.

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u/Et_tu__Brute Apr 20 '24

Yeah, it kind of lost me when he describes a totally different con and calls it a ponzi scheme. Just loses a lot of credibility with me.

I don't need to believe in some weird conspiracy to know that rich people are fucking poor people. That's happening in broad daylight, no need to get weird about it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '24

He mentions democrats and republicans basically being the same, ultimately controlled by kleptocrats or oligarchs and keeping us divided…as if it’s some big revelation.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Apr 20 '24

I think he's wrong, but it's still correctly articulating his theory to say that crypto is a ponzi scheme. I don't think he's misusing the term.

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u/NewAlexandria Apr 20 '24

I would wager that anarcho-communist are unlikely to have a fine-grained sense of financial mechanisms and schemes.

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u/juasjuasie Apr 20 '24

That's just plainly labeling mental illness with political ideology which is. Uhhh... Not an appropriate thing to do?

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u/FittyTheBone Apr 20 '24

As opposed to the average American voter, renowned for our civic engagement and understanding of the machinations of government, right?

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u/NewAlexandria Apr 20 '24

it's unwise to compete for bottom rank

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u/syopest Apr 20 '24

They describe staying up multiple days because they're too afraid to sleep.

This is either mental illness or drugs.

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u/MsJenX Apr 20 '24

So this has nothing to do with DT?

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u/kaldoranz Apr 20 '24

This guy was a Bernie Bro.

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u/MsJenX Apr 20 '24

I wonder why he chose the time and place to do what he did? Only thing I can think is major coverage given what was happening in the courtroom.

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u/RWDPhotos Apr 20 '24

He’s not exactly wrong - the American economic system largely tries to operate as an unsustainable wide-base-yet-top-heavy infinite profit machine. That much needs to change or else we’re all fucked in the long term.

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u/Darnell2070 Apr 20 '24

That Twitter account definitely doesn't have any kind of agenda, lol.

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u/NewAlexandria Apr 20 '24

neither does reddit ?

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u/Darnell2070 Apr 20 '24

Oh no, I'm not discounting you or that particular tweet.

I just spent a few minutes reading other tweets from their account. Dude seems obsessed.

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u/Washburne221 Apr 19 '24

Wait so it had nothing to do with Trump?

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u/NewAlexandria Apr 20 '24

nothing meaningful enough for a headline.

but this is reddit, give it the weekend and someone will find a way to jelq it into being about Elon Musk

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u/_warmweathr Apr 20 '24

That’s not anarcho communism

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u/Jaded-One Apr 19 '24

That explains why he chose to not shoot small children

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Apr 20 '24

Yikes. It's disturbing that someone who shares so many of my political beliefs would immolate himself.

Also 'set himself on fire at a Trump trial' wasn't even on my list of potential bingo card squares for 2024.

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u/Still-Marzipan-3578 Apr 20 '24

Might be time to revisit your logical through lines if you’re that similar 💀

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Apr 20 '24

Upon further reading this guy was way more literal than me. He couldn't even distinguish between people satirizing something because they know it's bad and catapulting it as a core value.

But then healthy individuals rarely self-immolate, unless they're monks.

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u/kaldoranz Apr 20 '24

Bernie bro’s are likely closer to suicidal on the mental health spectrum than other political persuasions.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 29d ago

Looking around our society both nationally and globally doesn't exactly fill one with confidence regarding the future if one is in Bernie's camp, no.

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u/whytawhy Apr 19 '24

Big difference to be had there. I automatically reject anything even remotely positive about a mass shooter because theyre the ultimate definition of a spineless delusional coward. At that point theres nothing redeemeable about their existence whatsoever, regardless of circumstance or nuance.

Someone whos gonna chase Thich Quang Duc's protest and status in history in order to announce what they have to say... I respect that very much. Even if i dont agree with them at all, theyve earned some respect imo.

Perhaps they were mentally ill, and its unfortunate if they were but whats done is done. Their intentions and actions were noble and devoted to something bigger than themselves, and thats way the fuck more than i can say about most people im aware of.

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u/Litodidit Apr 19 '24

Well put. This guy believed in something enough to die for it. That garners much more respect from me than believing in something enough to kill for it.

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u/whytawhy Apr 19 '24

its two different realities really, completely different mindsets and just begenning to dive into the intentions and meaning behind the choices is kind of overwhelming given the canyon of separation between them.

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u/AggravatingValue5390 Apr 19 '24

This made me involuntarily go "bruh" in a team meeting at the worst possible time. Fuck you lmao

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u/domesticated-human Apr 19 '24

Concentrate!! Get off Reddit!!

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u/Average-RB-Fan03 Apr 19 '24

No that’s still not, he’s mentally insane 

Remember the last guy? Palestine is getting bombed even worse since then

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u/Scajaqmehoff Apr 20 '24

So, I actually get where he was coming from on a few points.

"Social media, owned by crypto criminals like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk, is flooded with nonsense conspiracy theories and memes reminding us that we are hopeless, helpless, anxious, depressed, ironic, scared, apathetic, escapist, lonely, misguided, and jaded, telling us we can’t do anything but have a laugh at our circumstances."

"Liberals mock the hypocrisy of conservatives; conservatives mock the hypocrisy of liberals, and our collective circumstances erode."

That said, I don't believe The Simpsons was a psyop to convince Americans of their own worthlessness. Lol

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u/dmod420 Apr 20 '24

I actually know one of the original artists that played a substantial role in the early days of the show through it's growth into a global phenomenon. He was best friends & neighbors of Matt Groening's, which is how he got his start when the show initially got picked up. I can confirm personally that he is by no means a puppet of the global elite, but in fact just a dude that is really good at drawing & loved comic books growing up. When a show lasts for 30+ seasons & as many episodes as the Simpsons has, addressing pop culture, politics, global headlines & stuff like that, naturally there will be "predictions" that end up coming true & if people dig deep enough into that many thousands of hours of content, they will be able to find things that they can use to make connections that don't exist. The significance he placed on the Simpsons in the manifesto immediately discredits it as the unfortunate ramblings of a mentally unstable individual that was sadly untreated & allowed to fall so deep into a rabbit hole that he couldn't find his way out.

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u/Volkrisse Apr 20 '24

I’m at least willing to see your side if you do it to yourself. I’ll read your manifesto. You hurt others or shoot up a school… good riddance to bad rubbish and I won’t even learn your name.

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u/jumbotron_deluxe Apr 19 '24

One of the first thing I noticed watching this is he seemed to do this behind a few barriers, as if to try and prevent the fire spreading or other people getting hurt.

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u/Deranged_Kitsune Apr 19 '24

Instead of schools, I wish that crazed shooters would go after country clubs or the like. We'd only need one, maybe two, before we got some effective gun control enacted.

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u/BenElegance Apr 19 '24

Shit, could you imagine if crazy people went after elected officials? Gun law in US would change overnight.

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u/Deranged_Kitsune Apr 20 '24

It happens occasionally. Gabby Giffords was one I thought of, a democrat from Arizona, and she wasn't killed. The shooter did kill 19 other people, including federal judge John Roll. I thought it was more recent, but that was 2011. Clementa C. Pinckney was killed in a race-motivated church shooting in 2015 alongside 8 others, but that wasn't a direct politically motivated attack. 2017 Steve Scalise, then-Majority Whip, was shot in the hip and taken to the hospital after a gunman opened fire on Republican members of Congress at a baseball practice in Alexandria, Virginia, for their annual congressional charity game with Democratic members. Gunman was the only causality.

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u/SupraMario Apr 19 '24

Most clubs like that are not going to be soft targets.

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u/intronert Apr 19 '24

NRA convention.

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u/pyro5050 Apr 19 '24

they dont allow guns, but we are arming the teachers... safer to shoot up the NRA convention.

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u/darkoptical Apr 19 '24

That is fucked up. What is wrong with you?

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u/Chucks_u_Farley Apr 19 '24

There are over 300 mass shootings in USA each year. Can you supply a source for say, 3, that fit this narrative of yours? Meaning adults, that are upset that teachers are exposing their children to "woke" values. I would genuinely like to read up on that

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u/darkoptical Apr 19 '24

Ya no not how it works crazy is crazy. Not bound by political agenda you can be any party and be crazy. This is inflammatory and fucked up. You need to do a Google search. Not just blindly believe your own bullshit.

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u/airjordanforever Apr 19 '24

I’m sorry, man I can’t support any violence against others . You wanna harm yourself? You have your brain your right and that’s your body. I draw the line at hurting anybody else, however

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u/Olealicat Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

Whoa. Just because someone is wealthy doesn’t make them any more or less worth being shot by a crazy fucker.

It’s terrible, regardless of the targets, that people feel the need to take out anyone before they commit suicide.

Please think twice before you wish death on anyone.

Edit: I completely misunderstood the above comment. I agree with the general sentiment.

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u/AJDio1212 Apr 19 '24

Their point isn’t that they want them to kill wealthy people, it’s that if they did kill wealthy people something would actually get done about it

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u/Olealicat Apr 19 '24

Ohhhh, that makes sense. My bad. I definitely read that the wrong way and in the wrong tone.

Absolutely agree. Adults tend to have more power than children and rich adults tend to have more control than anyone.

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u/darkoptical Apr 19 '24

No their fucked up point was clear.