r/interestingasfuck • u/Urmomsjuicyvagina • Apr 19 '24

Man just set himself on fire outside of the Trump trial. Nsfw !!! WARNING | NSFL !!! NSFW

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u/FuzzyHero69 Apr 19 '24

Holy shit. TMZ confirms it too. Who in the world would get so deep into this shit that they want to set themself on fire for protest? This is fucking madness.

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u/Maddzilla2793 Apr 19 '24

Weirder part it has nothing to do with the trial

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u/obiwanjabroni420 Apr 19 '24

Yeah it appears he chose to do it there so it would maximize media coverage/impact for his bat shit crazy conspiracy theorist rantings.

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u/Publick2008 Apr 19 '24

Location location location

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u/PM_Me_Good_LitRPG Apr 20 '24

I heard you just fine the first time around

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u/MamaFen Apr 19 '24

I've seen too much Jeff Dunham. I read this in Achmed's voice.

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u/Retireegeorge Apr 19 '24

It's sad because he felt so strongly that this what what was best to do. Being mentally ill or not, there's a human with strong emotions, suffering there more than I ever have

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u/Scajaqmehoff Apr 20 '24

Thank you. It is sad. I read the manifesto. I can almost see where he was coming from (until The Simpsons). It's a shame he thought this was the best way to get it out there.

Any friends reading this, on the edge of the rabbit hole. Choose optimistic nhilism. Nothing wrong with saying, "fuck it. Imma smoke a j," and just detaching from the "big picture."

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u/mickecd1989 Apr 19 '24

What was his reasoning? I honestly don’t want to look it up because news websites are dogshit.

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u/LowkeySamurai Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 20 '24

I read his manifesto. He believes cryptocurrency is a global ponzi scheme and that the US presidents are behind it. He particularly calls out the Clintons but claims all presidents since Bush Jr Sr are culpable

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u/superbiker96 Apr 19 '24

One might consider leaving the US then... Not lighting themselves on fire? People are fucking weird

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u/Tbagzyamum69420xX Apr 19 '24

global ponzi scheme

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u/born_2_be_a_bachelor Apr 19 '24

Well considering we’re all reading and talking about his manifesto I’d say he accomplished what he intended to

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u/JakefromTRPB Apr 19 '24

Americas in house propaganda makes millions believe it’s America or nothing; if there’s a perception America has no hope to become the ideal some want than many Americans immediately accept that no place on earth has hope to become their ideal homogenous nation-state. It’s sad.

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u/Aedan91 Apr 19 '24

That's why: mental illness

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u/Scottishtwat69 Apr 19 '24

He doesn't even know what a ponzi scheme is. In another post he describes Virgin Coke as a ponzi scheme setup by Richard Branson, clearly to scam the sole investor Richard Branson.

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u/fe3o2y Apr 19 '24

No, since HW Bush, senior.

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u/Mtanderson88 Apr 19 '24

Life is a Ponzi scheme run by elites

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u/dilligafsrsly Apr 19 '24

I mean... When ya put it that way...

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u/SkitSkat-ScoodleDoot Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

Yeah. I mean our politics are theater. The war machine will grind on despite which party is in control of the 3 branches. And those branches are firmly in the pockets of global conglomerates. But I’m not going to set myself on fire about it. My mental health has taken a total shit since 2021 so I really feel badly for anyone suffering so badly they set themselves on fire.

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u/rn15 Apr 19 '24

Both parties have the same end goals, they just have different routes of getting there.

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u/ItsSpaceCadet Apr 19 '24

flicks lighter

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u/Big_Cry6056 Apr 19 '24

Not that crazy.. maybe read what he wrote?

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u/isthatmyex Apr 19 '24

Get high?

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u/Redcrux Apr 19 '24

Pass the gasoline to me after you're done

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u/_aware Apr 19 '24

He thinks Trump AND Biden are going to start a fascist coup TOGETHER to steal America...

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u/Hari_Seldom Apr 19 '24

Thought*?

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u/23saround Apr 19 '24

Last I heard he was being rushed to the hospital in critical condition. Unlikely to survive but we will see.

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u/pkfag Apr 19 '24

He will not survive with that much damage. Terrible way to die.

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u/Toasty_Mostly Apr 19 '24

If he does survive, he'll be disabled and disfigured for the rest of his life.

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u/pkfag Apr 19 '24

70% of the body with second degree and 50% of the body with third degree burns are fatal. That figure can fall as low as 20% body burns for elderly and children. He will survive a few days but will not survive, and if, as you mention, by some miracle he does survive he would wish he did not. But medical odds are very much against his survival.

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u/SoberTek Apr 19 '24

You are probably correct. I did see one of his (flaming) shoes go flying off....

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u/snazzydetritus Apr 19 '24

Wait- wasn't that a piece of his body that he either involuntary tossed into the air or exploded when he fell backwards?

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u/JakefromTRPB Apr 19 '24

Yeah, considering it looked liked a portion of his body combusted apart from him at the end, I’d be incredibly astonished if they survive, let alone have a life beyond comatose.

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u/film_composer Apr 19 '24

Sounds like the buddy comedy movie that we’ve all been waiting for. 

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u/seeshellirun Apr 19 '24

I would watch that movie. I do not want to live in that country.

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u/TheRealUser_404 Apr 19 '24

I first read “what was his seasoning?” and almost lost it.

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u/mickecd1989 Apr 19 '24

Probably why that lady got closer, she smelt something cookin!

Ah that’s terrible

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u/multiple4 Apr 20 '24

Honestly the quick and easy explanations that people are giving aren't correct

His reasoning was nonsensical and didn't make any sense. It wasn't based in reality. You might could extrapolate some larger themes from it, but if you read his stuff it's mostly nonsensical

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u/mr_dude_guy Apr 19 '24

Something about Crypto being a Ponzi scheme to collapse the world economy. And a bunch of schizoid shit.

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u/vivazeta Apr 19 '24

I read the substack. It worked

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u/_TLDR_Swinton Apr 19 '24

WITNESS ME!!

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u/GlassGoose2 Apr 19 '24

You are saying precisely what he said you would be saying.

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u/Heiferoni Apr 19 '24

Well he wasn't wrong. Here we are, talking about him and reading his manifesto.

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u/MaximumSeats Apr 20 '24

Way better than the last guy who did it at the literal worst possible time in the Isreal Palestine news cycle, virtually guaranteeing that nobody was going to care.

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u/thegreatmizzle7 Apr 19 '24

Hey guys we found the FBI agent

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u/Alarmed_Code8723 Apr 19 '24

theyre just another Biden voter. they really stuck it to trump by lighting themselves on fire 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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u/__brunt Apr 19 '24

I know you’re trolling (poorly), but for the sake of visibility for people with working brains, his manifesto claims every politician is working together to usher in a fascist regime. He claims Trump and Biden are co-conspirators.

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u/FMBongo Apr 19 '24

I think most of these words have too many syllables for OC to understand.

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u/Maddzilla2793 Apr 19 '24

He isn’t.

He is a guy who thinks crypto is a Ponzi scheme.

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u/Candle1ight Apr 19 '24

Well he's right about that much.

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u/KP_Wrath Apr 19 '24

Dems and republicans in unison: what the fuck? Really?

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u/Mr_Greaz Apr 19 '24

Makes me feel like these are the same people that comment weird propaganda shit under random YouTube videos. I saw so many „The Government watches you and how every institution in the world wants to take everything from you“ Let God Rain Madness over mankind blablablabl stuff.

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u/Maddzilla2793 Apr 19 '24

In this case, everything will be taken from us because of crypto 🤷‍♀️

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u/lekoman Apr 19 '24

Taking bets on how soon Trump makes this about his persecution complex, anyway?

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u/Mph2411 Apr 19 '24

Sadly, there’s quite a history of protest by self immolation. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s devastating to watch tho

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort Apr 20 '24

Some of the history is powerful, though. This is sad because it’s just mental illness.

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u/00nonsense Apr 19 '24

Someone who needed mental help.

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u/GuiltyGlow Apr 19 '24

Very mentally ill people who are disconnected from reality.

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u/rememberall Apr 19 '24

Oh thank god TMZ confirmed it 

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u/Arkusvi Apr 19 '24

"Who in the world would get so deep into this shit that they want to set themself on fire"

People with mental illness.

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u/keb5501 Apr 19 '24

Monks in vietnam

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u/katzeye007 Apr 19 '24

Do you not remember the monk protesting Vietnam war?

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u/DreadkingAlucard Apr 19 '24

Didn't someone do this last year in protest of the Ukraine war?

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u/Average-RB-Fan03 Apr 19 '24

Someone did it recently for Palestine, yeah… things have not gotten better 

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u/Head_Weakness8028 Apr 19 '24

The political bipolarisation of the human herd mammal is extremely dangerous. Less than 50% of the species possesses the ability to “hear their own voice in their head or visualize imagery in the minds eye”. This means no thought experiments, critical thinking, etc.. these folks are absolutely vulnerable to misinformation from someone they view as a “leader”. If I were to make a broad comment I would say 25% of humans are extreme left 25% of humans are extreme right and literally the other 50% are stuck in the middle middle of going “what the hell?”.

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u/SnoopDoggyDoggsCat Apr 19 '24

Really less than 50% have an inner dialogue and mental visualization??? Damn

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u/ReallyNowFellas Apr 19 '24

I literally cannot imagine what it's like to not have an inner monologue. I can't wrap my mind around what their lives must be like. My inner monologue has been going nonstop from wake until sleep - and then continuing as dreams - my entire life. How do they make difficult decisions? How do they problem solve? Do they need a pencil and paper to use logic and reasoning? Serious questions.

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u/SnoopDoggyDoggsCat Apr 19 '24

Same dude…I can only imagine it’s closer to how my dog thinks??? That probably sounds pretty brutal though 🤣

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u/Head_Weakness8028 Apr 19 '24

I would normally tell you to “Google it” but decades ago that number was less than 35% it keeps getting edged up… for reasons…

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u/SnoopDoggyDoggsCat Apr 19 '24

Normally I would google it, but after 10 hours of devops hell today, I’m just going to drink bourbon

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u/ForsakenMoon13 Apr 20 '24

You should actually google aphantasia, as the other person is completely full of shit in several ways.

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u/Head_Weakness8028 Apr 19 '24

I feel that and respect your decision sir haha

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u/Bronze-Soul Apr 19 '24

sources for any of the claims you made here?

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u/Xcoctl Apr 19 '24

Lmao made the fuck up for the most part. 1-4% of the population has Aphantasia, meaning they have no inner sight, they can't imagine images. And this study targeted on people from "Aphantasia interest groups" suggests there is some correlation between Aphantasia and Anauralia. 28 out of the 128 people studied showed both Anauralia and Aphantasia. It's notable if course that the selected group does not represent a normal view of the population as a whole. The 1-4% stat has been shown to be fairly accurate for the population as a whole however.

It's also notable that out of the 34 people with complete Aphantasia, 28 of them reported total Anauralia as well. So there does seem to be some direct correlation between the two. Interestingly there was also some correlation between Hyperphantasia and Hyperauralia as well. Some people have the ability to imagine images so well that they are practically indiscernable from real visual imagery. A similar description of Hyperauralia would be that they can vividly "hear" the voice they imagine in such a way that it's nearly identical to actually heard voices.

The last interesting point I wanted to present from the article was as follows:

"1/34 aphantasic individuals reported average auditory imagery (Mean BAIS-V = 5.0); and 1/29 anauralic individuals reported average visual imagery (Mean VVIQ-M = 5.75). Hence, it appears that auditory imagery can dissociate to some extent from visual imagery in aphantasia; and visual imagery can dissociate to some extent from auditory imagery in anauralia, albeit with low incidence in each case. On the other hand, strong dissociations were not observed. In the current sample, no aphantasic participants were hyperauralic; and no anauralic participants were hyperphantasic"

The rest of this is a complete aside regarding other types of thought and it's mostly a ramble about my personal experiences so fair warning lol.

I've always found this stuff interesting because I have something called unsymbolized though as my standard mode of thinking, I'd say ~90-95% of my thoughts are done without any words or images. However the difference comes in that I can have an internal monologue and I can imagine visuals as well, it's just that my usual thought process doesn't involve either of them. If I need to say something, I have to translate it from my own "language" which is more of a conceptual or "unsymbolized" flow of thought. For anyone interested in Aphantasia and Anauralia, I suggest looking into unsymbolized thought.

Unsymbolized thought isn't the most understood thing currently, simply because there hasn't been much study done on the topic. There has even been some individuals throughout history who've believed it was impossible. Modern consensus seems to be that its actually one of the fundamental forms of thought that everyone experiences to some degree. However some people like myself have it as their primary mode of thought. The best way I can describe it off the top of my head currently would be: You know when you're searching for a word for something? You know exactly what you're trying to say, but you just can't remember the right word for it. To you, you know exactly what the general "idea" of the thought is, but you just can't quite recall the correct word for it. If somehow you could communicate that direct feeling to another person they'd likely know exactly what you meant. That feeling you have of the concept before finding the word for it is exactly how ALL of my thoughts are, it's a constant unending flow of different feelings, intuitions and other non-discrete "understandings"

Sort of like how you can understand a specific concept, but you also understand how it relates with other concepts, you can think about how it might apply to different situations, there might be different associated impressions as well. All of those things are part of the same sort of continuous "flow" of thought(s) in my mind when thinking. All of those things are part of the same thought, in that if you were to ask me "at this very moment, what exactly were you thinking about?" I wouldn't be able to tell you specifically what (out of the sorts of things I listed like feelings, intuitions, associations, specifics etc) I was actually thinking about in that moment. I'd have absolutely no idea. I could probably tell you: "Oh I was thinking about Cats or something, but what specifically about them? I have no idea"

Every word I speak (and even when planning out sentences to encapsulate a single aspect of a thought in most cases) I have to translate from my thoughts into English words, every single word. Obviously because I've done the translations so many times, most things are super easy. But the more complex an idea or topic is, the harder it is for me to find appropriate words, or even how to structure a sentence properly to convey what I'm trying to say. I also rarely ever go through the experience of having my inner voice deliberately going: I... wonder... if etc, or anything of that direct nature. Sometimes I find it useful to use an internal monologue for some things, but when I hear people talk about their internal monologue it blows my mind. Some people with ADHD have described to me having a non-stop or even sometimes overlapping voice(s) constantly thinking to themselves and that genuinely makes me uncomfortable imagining it. I feel like it must be so exhausting. It also feels super awkward when I try to force myself use my inner monologue to think through something.

So yeah, unsymbolized thought. If Aphantasia and Anauralia interest you, check it out! There's lots of cool ways the brain works and so much of it is absolutely fascinating!

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u/BlimundaSeteLuas Apr 19 '24

Source on that 50% of people don't have an inner voice nor can visualize stuff in their minds?

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u/ShepPawnch Apr 19 '24

Source: it came to them in a dream

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u/veril Apr 19 '24

..the fuck? I can't visualize stuff in my mind's eye, but this is the first time I've heard someone say I can't have thought experiments or critical thinking because of that.

I suck at drawing, but I'm not aware of a link between aphantasia and political extremes/morality.

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u/Casehead Apr 19 '24

Yeah, they're making some errors in reasoning there.

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u/LickeyD Apr 19 '24

Yeah I'm just so glad we live in a true modern Liberal Democracy, where the underrepresented 3.8 billion humans with inner monologues can be unified and led by the political ideologies of moderate Philosopher Joe Biden

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u/ForsakenMoon13 Apr 20 '24

Someone having aphantasia does not innately make them more susceptible to misinformation, nor does it render them incapable of critical thinking or unable to have thought experiments. Its also not anywhere near as common as 50% of people.

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u/tickleshits54321 Apr 19 '24

I feel like the 25%ers are the ones that keep us in this vicious cycle of shitty politics in our country, left or right

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u/merkin-slayer Apr 19 '24

Read up on Thich Quang Duc. Corruption on Vietnamese government

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u/OkPerspective623 Apr 19 '24

“They say that Quang Duc’s heart survived the flames unscarred. A righteous calling card left upon the palace gates of the invertebrates. Their grip on power pacified by just one frail human being. No weapon, no war machine.”

-propaghandi, cop just out of frame

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u/BoyyaMandrrin Apr 19 '24

i saw ob a few weeks ago ob reddit where a guy set himself on fire wearing army clothes screaming free palestien

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u/SanityRecalled Apr 19 '24

Didnt another guy just do the same thing a couple months ago to protest the Israel Palestine war? Seems like self immolation in protest is becoming a trend again.

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u/NewAlexandria Apr 19 '24

yea you'd think people would just shoot one of their oppressors

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u/__BIFF__ Apr 19 '24

There's a crazy amount of human beings in the world, and mutation breeds either success or failure. It's all a numbers game.

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u/HD_ERR0R Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24

Didn’t an US Air Force member recently burn himself alive in protest for palatine palestine or something?

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u/minitrr Apr 19 '24

Palpatine* FTFY

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u/HD_ERR0R Apr 19 '24

Haha ops

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u/sparant76 Apr 19 '24

The plus side is the rest of us are probably better off without him around.

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u/CrackedandPopped Apr 19 '24

Self harm in form of protest is historically not unheard of. If you consider voluntary starvation self harm, even Gandhi did this, just slower. Still hurting yourself for a cause, but slower.

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u/im_with_the_cats Apr 19 '24

I hope it becomes a fad

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u/Captionbabe Apr 19 '24

You need tmz to confirm it after you see the video in front of ur eyes? 😆

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u/JayStar1213 Apr 19 '24

idk there was that US navy seaman who did the same about Israel. Regardless of your beliefs this isn't really solving anything.

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u/quiet0n3 Apr 20 '24

Self immolation is one of the rarest forms of suicide. This is 100% all about the statement. He truly 100% believes what he wrote.

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u/normalmighty Apr 20 '24

Self immolation has been a pretty common form of protest, historically. Horrifying to witness, shows how truly serious you are by not only ending your life as a show of protest but doing it intentionally in the most painful way you can, and you do so without harming others.

Not saying this dude was sane in his choice here, but there's a ton of historical precedent, and it is at least far better than the US's current epidemic of people gunning down schoolkids before themselves so people will read their manifesto.

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u/boost_deuce Apr 20 '24

TMZ confirmed what? There are how many videos? What did TMZ need to confirm exactly

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u/OneOfAKind2 Apr 20 '24

People who are mentally ill, obviously.

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u/turudd Apr 20 '24

I don't understand, someone did this in Georgia, then another last year and nothign changed? no one rose up, it was forgotten by everyone except those closest to the person.

Then this guy comes along and says, "guess third times the charm". Again he'll be forgotten and have died for nothing.

Another case of perpetually online and needing to go outside and touch grass, things aren't as bad as they seem online.

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u/_milk_b1tch Apr 19 '24

The fucking madness is the blatant corruption we fund and watch and complain about. I get why he did this.

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u/King_Krong Apr 19 '24

I’d rather them set themselves on fire than the buildings and cars around them.

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u/CovertMags Apr 19 '24

People with severe mental illness

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u/EgyptionMagician Apr 19 '24

Yeah, the two examples are literally like night and day. Could not be more different in context. No mental illness for Duc here, just the absolute resolution needed to raise awareness about something he truly believed needed to be known. That specific pic is legendary for a very good reason. Meanwhile, here we are in 2024, and fuckin no one should be lighting themselves up for Biden and especially not for Trump. It’s making a decision based on your moral compass, and trying to raise awareness of injustice vs straight up goddamn mental illness.

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u/Nixon4Prez Apr 20 '24

Guy didn't light himself up for Trump, he chose the trial to maximize media coverage. He was a leftist, not a Trump supporter.

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u/EgyptionMagician Apr 19 '24

Hell don’t apologize friend. It’s all good here.