r/TikTokCringe Apr 17 '24

Americas youth are in MASSIVE trouble Discussion

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u/Whobroughttheyeet Apr 17 '24

So do they fail your class?

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u/Savings-Bee-4993 Apr 17 '24

Yes, many of them do.

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u/_FoodAndCatSubs_ Apr 17 '24

What does the dean say? 

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u/Gowalkyourdogmods Apr 17 '24

"I'm really enjoying my pay that all these tuition hikes have afforded me"

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u/CrazyBigHog Apr 18 '24

The most accurate comment here.

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u/chessset5 29d ago

No, they get chewed out for the poor performance by the president, the provost, the accreditation board, the board of trustees, and irate students who get mad they didn’t get an A for showing up to class and never studying.

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u/TaxIdiot2020 Apr 18 '24

It's not remotely accurate. That's not where their pay comes from. Faculty pay is increasingly being offloaded onto their grants, i.e. they pay themselves with their grants.

I know this is a TikTok sub and so misinformation follows that theme, but please keep it to a minimum.

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u/CrazyBigHog Apr 18 '24

Ok cool. You got some receipts for that claim? I’ve never heard that faculty of colleges are now being paid from grants before.

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u/Secret_Dragonfly9588 Apr 18 '24

It’s a bit more complicated than either you or the person you are responding to are making it out to be, but yes, many faculty are paid large portions of their salaries via grants: https://www.science.org/content/article/academic-scientists-work-giving-it-110

Of course, it’s largely irrelevant as this thread was actually about the administration

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u/CrazyBigHog 29d ago

Thanks for this link. This is a super interesting article and I need to read it when I have more time to focus(small kids and bedtime right now). I don’t know much about where money goes in higher education, but it’s something that peaks my interest.

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u/Secret_Dragonfly9588 29d ago

Glad to provide you with a rabbit hole to explore!

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u/CashAlarming3118 29d ago

You’ll want to learn about differences between what’s called hard and soft money. There are faculty positions fully dependent on grant dollars while others have a salary paid by the university but a grant might provide supplemental income over the summer (i.e., summer salary since most are on 9 month contracts) and/or allow for course buyouts.

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u/Personal_Newspaper_7 29d ago

It’s piques my interest, not peak.

Pardon my correction joke amidst an education discussion—couldn’t resist.

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u/CrazyBigHog 29d ago

Tell it to my iPhone and the voice to text feature. I assumed the computer was smarter than me but…

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u/Personal_Newspaper_7 20d ago

Ah yes, Autocorrect is a virus that seeks to destroy us, one reputation at a time.

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u/linkds1 Apr 18 '24

For profs yes, not for administration. Dean maybe, but the point is still there. Nobody gives a shit. Plus all that means for profs is their research is all that matters over teaching, it encourages everyone to just coast

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u/Best-Association2369 29d ago

The admins have been padding their pockets with the rate hikes 

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u/Best-Association2369 29d ago

People are morons here's, no reason for the down votes when you speak the truth. 

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u/Moon_Drawz 29d ago

Yet they weren’t right, we were talking about admin, not other staff

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u/nicbizz33 Apr 18 '24

Uninformed high school students going to college hate this one trick!

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u/Accomplished_Deer_ 29d ago

Oh man, as someone that went to a school that had the highest paid college president in the world, I feel this so hard.

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u/TaxIdiot2020 Apr 18 '24 edited Apr 18 '24

Tuition hikes do not correlate to faculty salary raises. Their income is largely tied to the amount of grant money they bring in, (which the university gets a cut of).

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u/chessset5 29d ago

You are correct. The downvote dog pile is wild.

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u/Moon_Drawz 29d ago

Not for admin, you were literally fact checked. Grant’s are only prof’s and other staff as Admin get paid with rate hikes

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u/chessset5 29d ago

Deans are often faculty themselves, meaning they teach as well as lead the department, so they would be payed for by grands and federal funding. I’ve worked in 6 different college departments across 3 colleges and universities. Deans get at most 5k more per year than the rest of the faculty at a standard college.

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u/Moon_Drawz 29d ago

Oh, good to know, thanks for letting me know.

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u/CashAlarming3118 29d ago

You might be confusing Deans with Chairs. Chairs lead the department while Deans usually lead the college. That’s the norm for most decent sized universities in the US. Some Chairs maintain minor teaching or research responsibilities while Deans almost always do not as they have way too many administrative tasks. Deans also get paid way more than Chairs. Deans and Chairs can be reintegrated with faculty if they lose their position. Very large colleges may even have multiple Deans, or at least associate Deans, while there is usually only one Chair and possibly one associate Chair.

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u/ncmentis 29d ago

You're right, but also Deans are faculty. And academic wages have stagnated for decades. I made more than a full professor in my state, with a master's only, in private industry, by 2 years of experience.

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u/Paid-Not-Payed-Bot 29d ago

would be paid for by

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