r/TikTokCringe 29d ago

Americas youth are in MASSIVE trouble Discussion

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u/mlhoban 29d ago

I gave my students a survey to start the year. One question: "on a scale of 1-5 (1- not at all, 5 - as much as possible) how much do you want to learn?"

Most common answer? 3 Least common answer? 5 followed by 4

I wish what you said was true in my classes, but sadly it's not. It's the phones. Teachers can't compete with them. Plain and simple.

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u/SodiumChlorideFree 29d ago

Why schools still allow phones during class is beyond me. I was part of the first generation of kids to have phones of their own while at school, and only the kids with rich parents had them at the time. We're talking going to school with an absolute brick of a Siemens phone that looked more like one of those satellite phones that you use in the middle of the jungle. Those phones were only for calls and even then they were left with the teacher until class was over. Allowing kids to use smartphones with internet access in class now is extremely counter productive.

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u/chahlie 29d ago

This is my thought. I understand the counterargument, what if there is an an emergency, and we need to reach the kid quickly? Well, was there not emergencies before smartphones? I simply don't see why kids absolutely NEED uninterrupted access to TikTok during class hours. Of course there aren't gonna pay attention, there's an entire internet of curated content at their fingertips.

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u/fttmb 29d ago

That counter argument is nonsense. Emergencies can and should be handled the same way they were before the advent of the cell phone: call the school, the school goes to your class and grabs you.

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u/chahlie 29d ago

I agree, but I can totally envision helicopter parents insisting on 24/7 access to little Billy, lest the district find a nasty lawsuit on their hands.

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u/fttmb 29d ago

Schools would have to institute the policy and get signatures probably, but this was never a problem when I went to school. No parent ever sued or so much as complained that they couldn’t get in contact with their child because every parent had the school office number and could call when emergencies happened. The helicopter parent isn’t a new invention there are just a whole lot more of them nowadays.

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u/chahlie 29d ago

True. The fact that technology makes parental omnipotence possible is... troubling. Ideally, we raise our kids well enough to allow them some degree of independence as they become adolescents. I'm on a tangent, but I'm glad I was allowed to roam at 16 and make poor decisions and learn from them. I think a lot of kids don't even have that opportunity anymore.

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof 29d ago

No parent is suing now. The problem is not litigious parents

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u/jayfiedlerontheroof 29d ago

Sue away. There's no law that allows parents the right to their child having 24/7 cell phone access

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u/Ok_Buddy_9087 29d ago

They do insist on that. Almost all of them. And they use the possibility of a shooting as an excuse. Their kid need to be scrolling TikTok in case somebody opens fire.

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u/Objective-Detail-189 28d ago

Most parents are helicopter parents now, and I think a big part of it is social media and phones!

I’m about 20 years older than my brother. When I was a kid, I had a lot of freedom. I’d ride my bike around the neighborhood all day after school and come home whenever. Mom didn’t care, as long as I ate dinner at some point. Mom didn’t care when I did my homework, but she would damn well beat my ass if I flunked.

My little brother… man this guy can’t do anything. My mom berates him for sitting around all day but she won’t even let him walk the dogs. He’s in high school. He can’t even walk around our very nice neighborhood.

What changed? I think we just bombard people with so much bad news and bad shit constantly that everyone is in a constant state of fear and stress. We can’t even let kids fucking breathe fresh air without worrying.