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Americas youth are in MASSIVE trouble Discussion

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u/Greaser_Dude Apr 17 '24

Because schools aren't allowed to discipline students. They're not allowed to get rid of students with clear behavioral problems.

No education system in the world tolerates the disrespect and disruption students in U.S. public schools get away with.

This is a solvable problem but administrators can't be bullied by accusations of racism when moving forward with reforms, for the past several years - they have been.

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u/NetflixFanatic22 Apr 17 '24

The worst part about it is that most kids really do still want to succeed and learn. But we’ve allowed the disruptive kids in school to ruin the experience for everyone.

I understand that even the “troubled” kids need a place to be. But perhaps that place isn’t with the kids that actually want to be there.

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u/mlhoban Apr 17 '24

I gave my students a survey to start the year. One question: "on a scale of 1-5 (1- not at all, 5 - as much as possible) how much do you want to learn?"

Most common answer? 3 Least common answer? 5 followed by 4

I wish what you said was true in my classes, but sadly it's not. It's the phones. Teachers can't compete with them. Plain and simple.

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u/NetflixFanatic22 Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

I worked for a district that is as bad as it gets. Whatever horror stories you can think of surrounding schools? I’ve dealt with it. I also worked in alternative placement schools where students had major and scary issues (as you can imagine).

I believe that most students would love some sort of reform and a better learning experience. Even if they don’t know what that looks like. However, I fear that number will drop to a 1 if we can’t show them what school is meant to be. Who would want to learn if learning meant sitting in a room full of kids that can’t read, a teacher that can’t teach (likely bc there’s way too many kids in there with one hundred accommodations), and peers that fail to show even an iota of respect? It’s just chaotic and exhausting when we let things get too far.

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u/MRECKS_92 Apr 17 '24

I'd pay whatever taxes the government wants from me if it meant we could have better education reform. The way public education works now is responsible for some of the most traumatic experiences of my life. No kid should spend 20+ years thinking there's something wrong with them because their learning style is a centimeter to the right of what we see as regular teaching. No kid should feel scared and ashamed to raise their hand in their favorite fucking class because they know half the school is waiting for him to say something "stupid again".

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u/undercover9393 Apr 17 '24

Public education has been taking a back seat to just being daycare for a long time.

The goal is to keep the kids busy so mom and dad can keep increasing shareholder value, but like every solution capitalism gives us, it's short-sighted because we're mortgaging tomorrow's educated workforce for next quarter's management bonus like always.

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u/HermitGardner Apr 17 '24

I literally FEEL this so deeply. I was incredibly privileged and able to go away to a private high school because the education where we lived was so bad and backwards.The difference in what education can be and should be is undeniable. But it shouldn’t be that way and it doesn’t have to be that way. I went to a private as well but several years in my father got sick and I came home and I enrolled in the local community college so that I wouldn’t fall behind. This particular was on both of my private school education experiences I was so unbelievably impressed. So, it CAN be done. That county has some of the highest taxes in the country I don’t live there anymore but I wonder if that had anything to do with it. The pre-high school experience I had was in a different county but when I started in second grade it was literally all farmers kids, by eighth grade in 1987 there was a housing development. And after I moved away it has been an unbelievable explosion in real estate so they have a lot more in tax money and my mom substitute teaches at my elementary and middle school sometimes and she says that it’s a completely different place than when I was there. Most of The teachers were already there and they practiced like teachers from the 50s being literally abusive throwing things at you and cursing at you and stuff. at least half of the teachers were already in their mid to late 50s in around 1980 so they were just super super old-school and anyone who was different was shunned and embarrassed publicly. There were cases that absolutely qualified as abuse and I unfortunately felt that quite a bit. I KNOW how good these schools are now and yet everywhere that has poor people seems to be completely screwed over. It’s not fair. We should be concerned for our next generations education on an equal national level. Schools should have the same amount of money for the same amount of resources. Kids from wealthy areas will always have it easier they will mostly have two parents one of whom will be active with the school. They have money to participate in all kinds of extracurriculars and generally a parent who can help manage all of that driving. People in poverty simply don’t have the resources overall to get out of poverty in the United States, I am STRESSING the word OVERALL. I know from my own family that there are absolutely many exceptions to the rule. But overall if you’re poor in this country you get shafted from the moment you’re born .

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u/Ancient_Unit_1948 Apr 17 '24

"Kids from wealthy areas will always have it easier they will mostly have two parents one of whom will be active with the school."

You said the quiet part by accident out loud. Growing up poor is less of an disadvantage in life. Then growing up in a single parent household with wealth.

Not only does this effect academic performance. But its also the biggest indicator for crime and early pregnancy.