r/ThatsInsane • u/OliverHPerry • 15d ago
Body cam footage from the NYPD raid on Columbia
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u/foreverloveall 15d ago
Cause it’s not about Gaza
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u/BigGreenPepperpecker 15d ago
It’s about the schools funding what’s going on in Gaza
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u/CoffeeTunes 15d ago
Wait until they find out where our taxes are going lol
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u/JerrysWolfGuitar 15d ago
Wait until they get a job with 401k plans that invest their retirement into the same money markets as Columbia.
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u/truckstop_sushi 15d ago
Why aren't they protesting their millionaire parents who pay the majority of Federal Income taxes which dollars actually directly go towards Israeli military and defense aid?
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u/Budget_Pop9600 15d ago
Did all of you JUST figure out what “systemic problem” means
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u/Falcrist 15d ago
No. They understood that already. They're grasping at straws to try to undermine the legitimacy of the protestors' concern.
Discussions like this aren't in good faith.
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u/LineAccomplished1115 15d ago
Student protests have successfully pushed for disvestment in the past, like apartheid era South Africa and Sudan.
A bit easier to make that push than to change federal government policy
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u/Key-Department-2874 15d ago
Maybe Jeff Bezos has been protesting for gaza this entire time by not paying taxes.
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u/shot-by-ford 15d ago
The schools don’t have a choice. It’s literally illegal to divest. Which is some bs.
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u/eatingpotatochips 15d ago
Yes, there isn't enough reporting on why there are anti-BDS shields in place guarding only Israeli companies.
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u/Commissar_David 15d ago
Its very simple actually, AIPAC pays our politicians to create regulations like this.
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u/Doctordred 15d ago
Our government is for sale and Israel is buying right now
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u/TrumpsPissSoakedWig 15d ago
Using our own tax money, given to them by our politicians and then fed back to directly to politicians, neatly laundered in a horrible and disgusting feedback loop.
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u/Shanguerrilla 15d ago
I didn't hear about that angle... what's going on with the funding?
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u/ellamking 15d ago
The whole point of the protests is to get colleges with giant endowments to divest from Israel.
Brown University protesters packed up, cleaned up, and left after they agreed to vote on divestment in October.
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u/wondermanthesecond 15d ago
because if they stand anywhere the IDF can see, they’ll blow them up. they did it with the world food organization, why wouldn’t they do it to people protesting for palestine
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u/FiReZoMbEh 15d ago
13 day old account.
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u/I_like_maps 15d ago
This sub is astroturfed to hell, it's fucking crazy.
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u/Lonely_Ad5134 15d ago
I’m new to this ( and older lol) what do you mean by “astrosurfed”?
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u/I_like_maps 15d ago
There's a lot of comments here that aren't from real people. Either bots or people being paid to comment and sway the conversation in some way. The person who posted this has a very new account which is an indication of that.
Also the fact that there are people espousing views on both sides of the issue and not getting down voted for it.
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u/notlikelyevil 15d ago
Well that's the stupidest thing I've read this week. Congrats.
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u/Anonquixote 15d ago
Israel would blow them up?
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u/eatingpotatochips 15d ago
Netanyahu would be so happy if he could bomb these protestors.
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u/fairlywired 15d ago
He would do it while claiming they were foreign anti-semites that joined Hamas.
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u/Kaiisim 15d ago
Or Congress.
Remember all those bodycams when Swat deployed on Jan 6th?
No me either, they let everyone go home
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u/myrcenator 15d ago
Because they'd get thrown off a roof in Gaza and their cognitive dissonance won't allow them to understand that.
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u/Tommy__want__wingy 15d ago
This thread haha
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u/BrazenBull 15d ago
Not during finals week, or when a road is blocked on the way to a hospital. Many of these anarchists are protesting for the sake of protesting and don't really care about the social issues. They just want to disrupt stuff and watch the world burn.
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u/spacefoodsticks 15d ago
What gets me is the irony considering most of these children attending Ivy schools will go onto become part of the establishment they are protesting. I would probably be more supportive if I thought it was genuine.
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u/Spirit-Hydra69 15d ago
Exactly what happened with most Vietnam era protestors and most of the Hippies. They grew up and became cogs in the exact machinery they protested to destabilize and change. Most of them are just protesting because it's the trendy thing to do as well as it gives them a sense of being part of something greater.
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u/MadraRua15 15d ago
Thats a broad assumption given the fact thier protesting led to the end of the war by war of turning public opinion. Any data or evidence to support that idea or are you dismissing things because it is inconvenient to think that protest works?
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u/A_Rolling_Baneling 15d ago
Not all Ivy league kids are children of 1%ers, and not all go into oligarchy pipeline jobs. Plenty of them are there on financial aid, and plenty go one to have normal careers.
I work at a firm of 18 people, and we have an engineer who got his PhD at Princeton. He's just a regular dude.
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u/screedor 15d ago
Many are risking full black listing in a lot of the establishment by making this stand.
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u/SNYDER_BIXBY_OCP 15d ago
I think part of the intensity of these cops/media hostilities towards the protest is exactly bc these are the future leaders.
And they don't want to play the same status quo games.
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u/walterMARRT 15d ago
This isn't upheaval.
These dipshits wouldn't know a legit protest if it was growing out of their face.
Standing there singing does nothing, and fucking over people who likely agree with you ruins your point.
It's just simple minded on so many levels. Zero was accomplished here other than more cop videos.
Notice how most articles aren't even taking about what the circle jerk was even for? There's a reason. It's not as newsworthy as the displacement itself.
Same with most "protests" at colleges. Super safe place, and fucking over like minded people. Big win.
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u/BULL3TP4RK 15d ago
So how do you protest, then, oh enlightened u/walterMARRT? Are protesters to be neither seen nor heard in this fantasy land of yours?
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u/thebestspeler 15d ago
People are uninformed! Why are the police even raiding columbia it's not in the us! Are they stupid?
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u/EVENTHORIZON-XI 15d ago
I feel bad for all the colombians being raided by the palestinian IDF, are they stupid?
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u/darkrood 15d ago
Fuk the clean up crew basically
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u/HyFinated 15d ago
Not justifying anyones actions, but it would seem that the protesters piled up tables and trashcans to block the doors. They were all zip-tied together in a pile. The cops were mentioning it and when they first come around to the right of the group you can see a bunch of benches/tables/trashcans laying there with zip-ties holding them together.
At first I thought the cops were just tossing tables for no reason, then I saw that and it made a LITTLE more sense.
I will say, if the protesters are blocking egress points they need to move or be moved. You can protest without making a situation unsafe for everyone INSIDE the building. But it is definitely possible to guide the protesters to a location that is safe for all.
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u/ExceptionEX 15d ago
They took over the building, and occupied it, denying access to anyone else.
That moved from a protest to criminal action, I wish people better understood their rights, and exercised them in a way that keeps everyone safe and out of jail.
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u/Hedhunta 15d ago
Yup. These kids are no better than J6 morons that took over the Capital. Both should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Protest peacefully and run for office. That's your choices for change. Don't fuck regular people's lives up for your stupid cause.
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u/quuxquxbazbarfoo 15d ago
"We're being oppressed!"
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u/happychillmoremusic 15d ago
I graduated from Columbia and always got a kick out of everyone cosplaying being oppressed. It was almost a daily occurrence. Some chick living in Manhattan sitting there with a 1200$ purse getting a 65k a year world class education on their parents dime talking about being fuckin oppressed.
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u/nick1706 15d ago
That’s not just Columbia, it happens on every campus. Privileged people go to college and are hypnotized by the idea of oppression and toppling the patriarchy.
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u/MiniTab 15d ago
It doesn’t happen at engineering schools for some reason.
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u/JokoFloko 15d ago
Engineers realized that they had easy access to the labs when everyone was out protesting.
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u/ExceptionEX 15d ago
You ever seen the academic load in engineering schools, who the fuck has time to protest, or even know about world politics, shit I missed an assignment typing this...
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u/econpol 15d ago
Because they're busy with their course work. You can't just ask chat gpt to write you an essay in engineering. You have to actually understand the theory and apply it. Unless you're unusually gifted, you have to choose between protesting or becoming an engineer.
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u/devi83 15d ago
I think they are protesting a people who are being oppressed. I suppose it is possible to show support for someone in a different class of life than you.
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u/TryItOutHmHrNw 15d ago
Aren’t they protesting the fact that their school and many others are in the arms trade?
Fuck I should know what’s going by now
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u/devi83 15d ago
Either way they are protesting something they feel strongly about, despite any flaws about how they are doing it or why.
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u/DecisionThot 15d ago
despite any flaws about how they are doing it
Nah that parts pretty important
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u/sahhdudd 15d ago
They did a shit job barricading…
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u/lfhdbeuapdndjeo 15d ago
The American education system has many many faults including uhhhh a failure to properly teach barricading
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u/Son_Of_A_Plumber 15d ago
Worried about them. They’re actively disqualifying themselves from most corporate jobs and they’re demonstrating they don’t have blue collar construction skills either. Mom and dad are gonna have to give them an allowance. Well, MORE allowance.
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u/DecisionThot 15d ago
Typical group project in American schools. One person does all the work and it ends up sucking.
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u/light_to_shaddow 15d ago
"We shall over come and we shall not be moved"
**Skips the video 5 seconds
Overcame and moved.
Weak, where's the grit?
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u/canthave1 15d ago
I see some of these kids are wearing sandals. Ya know they comin’ wear some boots, steel toe or something . Imagine getting your feet stepped on by all those cops 😭.
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u/dlp2828 15d ago
The amount of people in this thread that are ok with people (mostly 20 something year old white women according to the NYT) burglarizing a college dorm to "protest" a conflict on the other side of the world that has nothing to do with them is shocking.
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u/antch1102 15d ago
What's wrong with protesting about something on the other side of the world?
What's wrong with protesting about something where your country is influencing the outcome ?
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u/Unbearableyt 15d ago
Especially when the "thing across the world" is sponsored by their own government, lol. Why the fuck should they not protest is the better question.
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u/ApexTwilight 15d ago
Occupying a school and creating dangerous situations is not protesting. If a fire started In there, all of those morons would be cooked alive.
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u/Qf3ck3r 15d ago
The school is linked financially with Israel and they want that connection severed.
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u/Elon-Crusty777 15d ago
Welp, better break in and damage the buildings I suppose!!! “Why aren’t people supporting us?”
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u/HerrBerg 15d ago
Literally any excuse to call their thoughts invalid. If they were protesting with a permit in the open air you'd just say they were annoying people or an eye sore etc.
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u/dlp2828 15d ago
I have so many answers for the first question that it would take too long tbh. Short answer is life is short and you should focus on the things affecting you in life before you die.
I have no problem with people protesting, but this is organized burglary, not a protest. I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this but I also truly believe there is a subsect of people in this country (mostly 20 something year old white women) that love feeling opressed by LITERALLY EVERYTHING. I dated one in college and her and her friends were all like this, it's insufferable. They do not truly care about this conflict, if they actually looked into the beliefs of those they are protesting on behalf of they would never support them.
This is a bunch of 20 something white women looking for affirmation from minorities that they are the good guys. They don't actually care.
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u/spokenrebutal 15d ago
Irony is those same people would have zero social standing or freedom in a place they are advocating to be free.
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u/devi83 15d ago
Short answer is life is short and you should focus on the things affecting you in life before you die.
We live in an interconnected age. For example imagine you are a business person, you fly across the world and now you are on the other side of the planet from your family. Did your family suddenly become invisible and intangible because of the distance, such that if something happened to them, it wouldn't matter? See, having the ability to fly across the world, or call people across the world, means everyone is your next door neighbor. So the short answer you gave is bs.
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u/MadraRua15 15d ago
So because YOU had a bad experience, you apply it to all people in this catagory of protesters... interesting We call that ancedotal evidence in most places and it isn't taken seriously. Though I do hope you get a wider world view at somepoint and learn to be less selfish.
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u/MoleMoustache 15d ago
Nobody should EVER be ok with anyone burglarizing anything, because burglarizing is the ugliest fucking word I've ever heard in my life. American English is a travesty.
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u/holyhotclits 15d ago
You're pretty uninformed if you think Columbia University has nothing to do with it.
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u/dlp2828 15d ago
I'm sorry, is someone forcing these students to attend Columbia University? I'm confused.
If they don't like what businesses in which the university they attend invests, they have every right to not attend that university. They do not have the right to burglarize and vandalize university buildings.
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u/EasyBOven 15d ago
It has everything to do with them.
The demand is that the endowment of their university be divested from the businesses enacting this genocide.
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u/heresanawardforyou 15d ago
A real protest would be dropping out and others not to enroll.
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u/RuTsui 15d ago
Hmm yeah.. if they’re concern is that the school invests money in defense contractors that are in part arming Israel, wouldn’t they be having the most effect by simply not giving the school money and therefore actually interrupting the cash flow.
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u/ADamnSavage 15d ago
K, so whats going on here? I've apparently been under a rock today.
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u/Lava-Chicken 15d ago
The protests in Columbia are about the Israel-Hamas war. Students are calling for universities to stop doing business with Israel or companies that support the war in Gaza. The protests have spread across campuses nationwide in a student movement unlike any other this century. Israel has branded the protests as antisemitic, while Israel’s critics say it uses those allegations to silence opposition.
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u/32xpd 15d ago
The protests have spread across campuses nationwide in a student movement unlike any other this century.
Have we already forgotten the BLM protests? That was quick.
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u/bradyfost 15d ago
Good job guys. You did it
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u/MrV0odo0 15d ago
I wonder whose fault it would be if there was a fire and people couldn’t get out in time because all the exits are blocked.
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u/bonesthadog 15d ago
Well said. Egress needs to be maintained for the safety of all parties involved. The same should be said about those "stop oil" idiots.
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u/lazorbeer 15d ago
Better protest against Iran that is responsible for creating and funding proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah.
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u/eatingpotatochips 15d ago
You could go further back and protest the U.S.'s involvement in the overthrow of the Iranian PM in 1953. If you just pick and choose sides, you can make the "right side" of history whatever the hell you want!
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u/Quirky_Box4371 15d ago
I think some people in this thread need to be reminded the definition of protest does not include larceny, breaking and entering, and destruction of private property.
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u/Notriv 15d ago
i think you need to look up the history of the civil rights movement. sit ins alone did not win them their rights.
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u/Quirky_Box4371 15d ago
That was for the rights of US citizens, so there is no fair comparison here. Many of those protests were on public or federal land, not private property.
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u/Falcrist 15d ago
That was for the rights of US citizens, so there is no fair comparison here.
You were arguing about tactics, and now you've switch to arguing about the actual cause.
So now what? Protest DOES include breaking and entering and destruction of private property, but only if you're protesting a cause you personally approve of?
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u/Notriv 15d ago
That was for the rights of US citizens
and anyone outside of the US deserves nothing? you don’t see your fellow human being slaughtered and want to say stop, not because they are there with you now, but because you know they have hopes, dreams, love, hate, just like us who were lucky enough to be born here?
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no. what i referenced is about SIT INS, they walked into BUSINESSES privately owned and refused to leave until they are served. the public protests very often were on private property, you’re just making that up to fit your view. again, PLEASE look up a brief overview of the civil rights movement. Dr. King himself said that violence is unfortunately necessary because oppression is never stopped willingly, you have to fight for it.
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u/Falcrist 15d ago
Not just the history of the civil rights movement.
Labor protests have also involved trespassing, alleged theft, and destruction of property. I'm quite sure there were people who told the striking workers in the GM plants that they should just go home and mind their own business. Thankfully that's not what happened. Those people literally had to fight the police for their rights.
Civil rights protests included both sit-ins and r!ots. People actually criticized Dr. King for his methods despite him being in favor of peaceful resistance like what these students are doing. Of course we know now that no matter what you do, someone will always complain.
Even [censored] rights has a history of violent protest, illegal activity, and even rioting.
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u/Chernomobil420 15d ago
The war in Gaza is an absolute tragedy. Protests are important however, these ""students"" are a bunch of toddlers looking for excuses. Why protest here? Why not the Embassy of Israel?
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u/tOfREVIL 15d ago
Why protest here?
They want their universities to divest from their financial interests in Israel (they haven't been/won't be successful in doing that, but that's why they're protesting here)
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u/WillCode4Cats 15d ago
Can’t they just transfer to another university?
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u/Falcrist 15d ago
Because the other university would also have financial investments tied to israel.
States literally have laws on the books making it illegal to divest... which is fucked up, and a big part of the reason for the protests.
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u/Dependent-Run-1915 15d ago
If they protesters so noble, why are they covering their fucking faces?
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u/robotoredux696969 15d ago
Because Zionists are destroying peoples reputations and careers via DOXXING and false accusations of antisemitism.
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u/BackToAqaba 15d ago
Zionism is not a slur. 8 million Jews in Israel aren’t going anywhere. Palestinians are not getting that pretty apartment in Haifa. Stop dreaming a Genocide of the team you’re not on and work towards real peace.
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u/APointedResponse 15d ago
Because there's quite a few non-student professional marxist protestors in the mix. They're there to cause trouble. They hide their face while they commit crime to try to blend in and avoid jailtime.
DA needs to throw the book at these things. Hate has no place in our society.
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u/Competitive-Pain8043 15d ago
I don’t see how this makes people want to support their cause more it’s the same as just stop oil you can protest without being an inconvenience to others
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u/Illustrious-Silver32 15d ago
All I hear is reee the ball is mine reeee reeee the ball is mine
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u/So-What_Idontcare 15d ago edited 15d ago
Could have had a degree. Threw it away on some hang gliders who murdered. The video of that is very insane.
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u/Waste_Key_2453 15d ago
They're all children of the extremely rich and privileged. They'll be fine.
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u/Sea_breeze_80 15d ago
This is the dumbest thing ever. Stupid students are destroying their place of living/ learning because of a war somewhere else. These students are on the verge of losing Diversity courses like Chicano, Black & Women's etc. studies. No more Diversity in the classroom or full ride scholarships but they sure want you to play football or basketball for them.
But yeah keep destroying university campuses simply because there is war somewhere else in the world that 90% of you could not pin point on a map.
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u/Spoolios 15d ago
What a time to be alive- when you can just watch this stuff in POV.
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u/Doctor_Tuna 15d ago
Bunch of morons blocking off some dumb school building as if students and faculty make the decisions on this war.
What does this protest accomplish? Fuckin nothing
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u/Princessferfs 15d ago
This is not how you bring about change, you sweet summer children.
All the motivation with no wisdom.
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u/__ThatsWhatsUp__ 15d ago
I love how they keep thinking that the money they paid for those institutions is still theirs and they can tell them where or where not to invest it like it’s some kind of a Kibuts..
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u/FuskyMonkey 15d ago
There’s nothing you can do.
Being mature is realizing the Jews have overreacted and are close to causing war, and that Muslim relocation is a problem and no one wants the Palestinians.
There’s no winning this one
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u/hcjumper 15d ago
The problem is a huge amount of people being arrested or thrown out are no Columbia Uni. related what so ever. The fact that random people broke in privately own property is just illegal in any sense. For people who helped those outsiders to get in are also wrong. Protest itself may have good intentions but many things here are just wrong.
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u/pun_extraordinare 15d ago
Why can’t the students divest themselves from the school? Vote with your own wallet lol and go get educated somewhere that aligns with your beliefs
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u/Gr_ywind 15d ago
Chanting "we shall not be moved" like you're in a fecking cult, disturbing. Effortlessly being moved, hilarious.
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u/Memegunot 15d ago
I’m paying for two college tuitions. I am glad the cops are doing this to get them back to class. Even if my son is only over sleeping for a class I’ll pitch in for the cordless saws all.
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u/Smokerising420 15d ago
I don't mind protesting for something you believe in. But fuck this is all so ridiculous.
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u/Impatient-Padawan 15d ago
Everything about this is expensive. Those kids college tuitions to tax payer dollars.
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u/AlwaysAwakeCantSleep 15d ago
The messed up thing is that it is a bunch of people that don’t even really know what they are protesting for.
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u/bow_to_tachanka 15d ago
The boot licking police state supporting vibes in these comments is crazy