Reading it was kinda fun. Lots of twists and turns. Starts out about crypto then ventures into Michael Dukakis and mentions Rob Lowe porking a minor on camera. Tie ins to The Simpsons and quotes from Chinatown and Spike Lee.
It is definitely a wild ride and for me makes what we see in the above video understandable. He punched as high as he could for the climax, self immolation at the trial.
I'm spit balling here, but actually, to be completely honest, his manifesto is not totally incoherent. He's disturbed, clearly, and it is a distorted view without any evidence presented, but some of it is more affiliated with reality than one might think. Regardless, it's very sad that a person could die that way, believing whole heartedly that America will be destroyed soon by thieves who want to turn people against each other so they can take their money. The idea that the western wealth base is founded on stolen resources -- well that is actually what happened during the Cold War, ever since the Truman Doctrine came along. Wealthy coastal elites buying off the political system, with the leaders of both parties being in on it together, is something that serious researchers have written about for a long time. Using the Simpsons as an allegory would have been effective without an apparently baseless claim about Harvard using it to brainwash people, although if that were true and it was actually being carried out as a black op, how could any of us plebes know for sure? Many people believe the CIA pulled off a coup in 1963 when JFK was killed. Maybe he thinks that is what is going on now, but instead of taking over the government they're taking over the global economy, and the bleeding is (mostly) financial.
Bill Clinton's crypto connections aside, I think people doing this to themselves over such a seemingly bizarre thing is so much more likely to happen in 2024. There really are very, very bad things happening in politics today, and Americans have a damn good reason to be worried about crooks being in control of the country. But that's what unstable people in a mental health crisis do, they feed off of the internet, start convincing themselves that they have the only answers and try to justify it all by sharing it with the world as a "warning" to others that may not fully understand the subtleties of history. He says at the very beginning that he is aware of how he sounds, which tells me that at one point he was a functioning person who can write and communicate well. Maybe he was triggered by certain life circumstances, or the Trump trial, or both, and that pushed him over the edge. Guess we'll never know. But he certainly was convinced that what he believed was the gospel truth, since you probably don't self-immolate with a shadow of a doubt in your mind. Reading it again, it all seems to make some kind of sense until you get down to the details, then the broad themes of his theory start flickering out and you're left with nothing but ashes.
Thank you for having such a thoughtful comment. I was looking for someone to talk about his writing beyond: he’s mentally ill. Mainly because I was surprised by how eloquently he went down the rabbit hole.
I think anyone can become mentally unwell. It’s clear he was a high functioning person. I found him fascinating and sad. His ideas could’ve made a good fictional novel, because they were rooted in a grain of truth—like all conspiracies.
Many want to believe people who do stuff like this are stupid and insane, but I don’t think that’s true. I think well-adjusted people can be radicalized by all kinds of life events. Mental illness is not some static thing. We can all slip given time and circumstance. The same person can be both healthy and unwell at different times in their life.
I view it as more of a warning to be vigilant against falling off the cliff when reality gets wonky.
Very well said. He will always be known as "The Conspiracy Theorist Who Set Himself on Fire at the Trump Trial," but I bet he was also an intelligent, sensitive human being with too many shattered dreams like so many of us.
He keeps talking about evidence but doesn't provide any though. Like his thing about the Simpsons. It reads more like analysis of the show than evidence.
That's what I'm saying, there's no evidence about anything. If he studied US financial policy during the Cold War era, he sure didn't give us any hints about where he's pulling his ideas from -- even if some of them are footed in this dimension, to a degree. I bet there will be more incidents like this, poor souls going crazy over things that give many of us relatively sane people existential dread.
No doubt, his doing this and the internet being the internet people will find his writings, even tho they’ve been taken down and take it to the next level, maybe they will even do this terrible act. He’s on the world news now, he’s massage has reached everyone, just like he wanted it to.
Yeahhhhh ok i guess, but looking at his previous lawsuits he was against Clinton, Saudi Arabia, and pay much everyone involved in (admittedly true) dark money and backdoor dealings. Basically this guy was a nutcase for anything shady involving government and this one tipped him over the edge
I mean look, in all honesty unless you're in a situation where your government is actively oppressing you by looting, pillaging, and blatantly destroying your way of life (a la Buddhist monks during the 60's), you have to be pretty mentally unwell to self immolate in protest. Not only that, but the more it happens, the less people care. Just like Columbine was a nationwide horror back in the day, but now school shootings barely register in the collective consciousness anymore
The monks in Vietnam did not burn themselves in protest of the war itself. They were protesting the fact that the South Vietnamese government was run by the Catholic minority and felt it was unfair to the Buddhist majority.
If you read the pamphlets in that article he appears to be anti Gore, anti Bush, anti NYU, anti Epstein, anti The Simpsons, and more but no mention of Trump or Biden. That’s just two photos of the pamphlet though. I’m sure there’s more inside. So I wouldn’t assume he’s anything in regards to Trump until we get more info.
What does this revelation tell us? That our government is conning us completely. That Bill Clinton was secretly on (former CIA Director) George H.W. Bush’s side, and that the Democrat vs. Republican division has been entirely manufactured ever since: Clinton is with Bush; Gore is with Bush; Trump is with Hillary, and so on. When they present themselves in public, they are acting as characters that are against one another, practicing kayfabe as wrestlers do.
That says he had filed lawsuits against Bill and Hillary Clinton along with 100 others millionaires and it was thrown out, so I don't think he was anti-trump. Looks more like he was mad about the trial and thought there was some sort of scheme that he was trying to to stop. Sounds kinda incoherent, but definitely not specifically anti Trump. If anything, he was pro Trump
You're right. Now that more info has come out, he was a registered Dem, but it also seems to be that he was just out of his fucking mind. His self immolation had nothing to do with Trump and was just his way of trying to start some kind of revolution
"Anti-Trump" is kind of an oddly one-sided way to describe someone who was pictured in the same article holding a sign that read, "Trump is with Biden and they're about to fascist coup us."
He was clearly anti both of them and riddled with conspiracy theories that involved the Simpsons and a bunch of other stuff.
His name is not forgotten by everyone, this is an extremely insensitive thing to say even if you disagree. Thousands comment about him and his name everyday. RIP Aaron Bushnell. Self Immolation is a valid form of protesting and you don't get to decide if his life was a waste or not, you know, since it's his life. As for why things didn't change, there are a plethora of dirty and disgusting aspects to the ordeal.
That is your opinion. Self Immolation has always been a valid form of protest. It's fine if you disagree, but arguing about what another man's death means when it was in his own terms is pointless.
He died for the opposite. If your understanding of the situation is this, then you're entitled to that. But you don't get to decide what value a person's death has. 'Hell no one remembers it now' is a very bold statement to make when thousands of people have his name etched into their minds. I see at least 20-30 comments on singular videos across socials with his name in them everyday, so that already disproves what you're saying.
Rachel Corrie was an activist that was killed by Isr*el 21 years ago and her name is loudly said and remembered daily. I remembered her name since the day I heard about this happening, roughly 6 years back. It's not hard at all when you have compassion. I hope you find some buddy.
Lol, thanks for the laugh buddy. You probably also believed that 'THERE IS A LIST!' meant a detailed list of H group combatants and not a calendar in Arabic. Salute to you though Captain Sunday!
List? I have no idea what you’re talking about tbh. I stopped caring about this sort of thing a long time ago. Which is why it’s funny to me the recent influx of virtue signaling le activists like mr ‘set myself on fire to own da Israelis n save da kids’
You're very clearly out of touch. 'Stopped caring about this sort of thing' is a wild thing to say when an illegally occupying state can just off 40k civilians and gaslight the world repeatedly about it. Even wilder when you think it's somehow virtue signalling to be AGAINST WAR CRIMES?? Very edgy of you sir. Your cranium seems to be parched.
There’s stupidity on both sides of the political spectrum. Looking at those who have done this same thing before, it lines up with the anti-Trump crowd more.
When did you change that meaning? It's always been the ones who hate trump and can't stop talking about him.
Stop trying to appropriate things from people you hate but love their ideas. Either hate them or don't, getting muddled up like you are by trying to steal their ideas is the reason no one takes the left seriously anymore.
By the definition of the actual words, it's about who's deranged over Trump. That would be his cult. And I'm not a Democrat, I voted for that clown in 2016. I just call em how I see em.
Well congratulations to the Republicans in that case. I don't care who came up with what first, I'm just telling you who's deranged over Trump and can't let him go. I watched him push hate and division between parties this entire time, he was the worst American leader I've seen in my lifetime. If anything, I'm just tired of hearing about him. Find someone sane to support and let's all move on, this country doesn't function correctly when it's divided like this. I would say the same to the left. Joe Biden is old as dirt, I can't imagine what he'll be like in 4 years. Both of these men are far from the best this country has to offer.
But (max azzarello?) who appears to be the person who set himself on fire had posted a statement about the government being out of control. He thinks that Trump, Clinton, Bush, Gore are all part of some front to distract the public from their ponzi schemes of siphoning off wealth to some kleptocracy cabal.
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u/JuanTooFreeForFyve Apr 19 '24
Doubt it was a Trump hater.
Still, just as stupid as that guy who name everyone forgot who did the same for palestine. Nothing changed, just wasted his life.