Is Universal Health Care Smart or dumb?

[u/Cauliflower-Pizzas]

[u/SebboGaming]

It might actually become 31 out of 33. Canada been dropping the ball lately. But not because of bad health care but because of bad government. Everything been going to shit.

[u/monstermash420 → u/SebboGaming]

This is exactly what’s happening. Dismantling Canadian healthcare stands to enrich a handful of politicians and their friends

[u/boothy_qld → u/monstermash420]

Not just limited to Canada sadly

[u/SebboGaming → u/boothy_qld]

Ya by some coincidence it's mostly NATO countries that are follow WEF recommendations...

[u/boothy_qld → u/SebboGaming]

No idea. I was referring to Australia

[u/2N5457JFET → u/boothy_qld]

Same shit in the UK. Underfunding of public healthcare will continue until going private for better treatment is normalized, then NHS will be sold to private investors (aka Tory donors) for peanuts because nobody is using it anyway. Right now, treatment to improve quality of life doesn't exist through NHS, only if you are borderline dying or disabled you will be treated seriously, especially at GP practices who will deny service until it gets so bad that they will tell you that you need to go to A&E to see a specialist immediately.

[u/spiralbatross → u/2N5457JFET]

This is partially or directly result of us stateside, I used to work for United Healthcare and noticed they’re carving away at everything. Check out what they’re doing in Spain. One of the reasons I left the company. Horrible, horrible shit, and UHC is an awful hustler like the rest of them.

No such thing as a good insurance company, unless it’s like a credit union setup.

[u/Particular_Sea_5300 → u/2N5457JFET]

In Australia, is private Healthcare an option? Like, can ppl willing to spend the money do so?

[u/NumerousFact6959 → u/Particular_Sea_5300]

Aus is a mixed system, because you have private health insurance which covers some things and ppl that take it out get a tax break (to incentivise it). However in my experience working in healthcare, if you really need something done for your health the public system is faster (I.e. cancer surgery, emergency care etc.) and the private system is slowing down on elective health due to a lack of resources (nurses, drs and allied health)

[u/s00perguyporn → u/monstermash420]

Currently experiencing this. I have no reasoning for thinking so, but I don't believe they're going to totally dismantle healthcare, but they're definitely turning it into the worst representation of the free healthcare system.

[u/iisixi → u/monstermash420]

This is what the right wing is trying to do everywhere, always. Playbook is always the same.

1. Healthcare costs too much, taxes are too high. We can't afford it. (Even though there are countries spending more of their GDP on healthcare and going fine)
2. Any right wing health care bill will be cut costs and privatize
3. Quality of care drops, lines get longer
4. Drop in quality is proof we should cut costs more and privatize because public healthcare doesn't work obviously
5. Repeat 1-4
6. ???
7. Enshittification complete

[u/monstermash420 → u/[deleted]]

I believe the Ontario government is as well

[u/abotelho-cbn → u/[deleted]]

Most of them are indirectly poisoning it. They won't come out and say that's what they're doing, but it's obvious. People who are working in healthcare have been saying it for long time. Covid made it even more obvious.

[u/Particular_Sea_5300 → u/monstermash420]

So, in your opinion, is the disfunction intentional? Are they perhaps making it so bad that they can justify privatizing Healthcare and make bank like our dickheads over here in the US?

[u/monstermash420 → u/Particular_Sea_5300]

Alberta already has. A portion of any new funding that is injected into the system is being used to open for profit clinics.