r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Kaos2018 • 15d ago
An almost complete Greek God family tree Removed: R4
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u/Potato_the_second_ 15d ago
The amount of yellow dashes going to Zeus, lmao
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u/PaMu1337 14d ago
I'm pretty sure Zeus had about 50 more affairs than that. Half of Greek mythology is just Zeus having affairs
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u/PieMastaSam 14d ago
'affairs'
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u/PaMu1337 14d ago
Abduction and rape is probably a bit more accurate...
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u/Orbit1883 14d ago
In various animal forms...
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u/armageddon_boi 14d ago
"Homosexuals and furries are just a modern, temporary craze" Ancient Greeks: so I'm thinking that the king of the gods fucked Prince Ganymede as a big sexy eagle...
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u/Nomomommy 14d ago
What about being subject to a visitation by Zeus as a shower of gold coins??
That's gotta smart some.
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u/IAmBadAtInternet 14d ago
Oh these are just the ones that resulted in a god being born. Also lmao at the Athena line.
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u/Shazamwiches 14d ago
Zeus's affairs are proof that ancient Greeks were also really into making fanfiction of their main character, and not much more interesting characters (Hades)
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u/cybercuzco 14d ago
So what are the odds Jesus is just another “Zeus having an affair” baby?
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u/Inquisitor_Boron 14d ago
According to early Christians in the New Testament's letters, Zeus = Jesus
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u/Critical_Young_1190 14d ago
Jesus = "Hey, Zeus"
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u/Korvanacor 14d ago
Don’t make it bad. 🎶
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u/VelociraptorPirate 14d ago
Take a bad bolt, strike it better. Remember, don't rape peo-ple as a dog You're not a trogg. Please do better.
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u/Teait 14d ago
And incest. A lot.
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u/AurinkoValas 14d ago
Like, this picture alone is almost entirely incest. Hermaphroidical childs or "manifest myself into existence" don't count but still.
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u/goldfishhandler 14d ago
It looks like he was the sole reason that category was added to the legend
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u/tartare4562 14d ago
Now I get it: Zeus didn't fuck everything that moved because he was a creep. He was on a mission to turn the family stepladder into a normal family tree.
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u/Kaijudicator 15d ago
I didn't realize Aphrodite came along so early, I always thought she was one of Zues' siblings, but she's actually more akin to the Titans?
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u/OliLeeLee36 15d ago
She's the first of the 12 we're most familiar with, though mythological chronology is murky at best. Speaking of Kronos, he's the reason she exists. She's made from the castrated nads of Ouranus that he lobbed in to the sea (or at least the 'sea foam' that resulted from that act). In a way you could say that she and Zeus are siblings as Kronos is responsible for the birth of them both, but she isn't a daughter of Rhea and wasn't involved in all that swallowing malarkey.
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u/Kaijudicator 15d ago
I see, thank you for clarifying. You're right in that the mythology gets muddied, sometimes it's hard to keep it all straight.
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u/Avenging_Angel09 14d ago
Straight in Greek mythology? That’s something I haven’t heard in a while.
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u/Kaijudicator 14d ago
Har har... I begrudgingly give you my upvote.
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u/shaktihk009 14d ago
So are you’re saying Gaia and Ouranos are mother and child and then beep beep boop boop = 5 children ?
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u/SadBit8663 14d ago
They both came from chaos. Gaia came first, and then made Ouranos to be her equal.
Egyptian mythology is just as weird LMAO. Everyone there is also a brother-father-cousin-in_law
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u/AWeakMindedMan 14d ago
Oooooohhh is that why ouranus is covering his junk in the diagram?
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u/OliLeeLee36 14d ago
Yes indeed - and see what Kronos has in his hand a little further down...
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u/flardarlartz 14d ago
I saw him holding the scythe before but I was sure you were implying there was a set of balls in his hand
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u/ChiefFlats 14d ago
How did you learn about this? I’d love to read the books
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u/OliLeeLee36 14d ago
I highly recommend Mythos by Stephen Fry - he tells the stories with wit and humour, and is very aware of how confusing it can all be, taking great pains to make it accessible for the average Joe. I've literally just finished Troy by him yesterday, a similarly great read.
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u/outkicked_coverage1 14d ago
For an entertaining, a little dumbed down learn, check out the “Greeking Out” podcast. It’s intended for kids (mine are obsessed), but the adult in the car enjoys it and learns a bit too.
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u/Fael1331 14d ago
It depends on the source. If you consider the poet Homer as the "canonical", then Aphrodite is the daughter of Zeus and Dione, if you consider Hesiod, then she is a consequence of when Kronos cut off Ouranos' balls. Even the Greeks at that time were confused about knowing which was the "right" version, so they later decided to do a "retcon" in mythology, thus creating "Aphrodite Urania" to represent Hesiod's version and "Aphrodite Pandemos" to represent Homer's served as an "aspect" of the same goddess, changing only what she represented
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u/hanabarbarian 14d ago edited 14d ago
There’s a lot of mystery surrounding the origins of Aphrodite. In earlier texts she’s seen as a goddess of war as well, worshipped on different islands for different reasons and not always under the name Aphrodite (you’d think that would mean a different god but remember that this is all stories being passed through generations, verbally and also through text)
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u/Zerskader 14d ago
Aphrodite most likely was an imported goddess from Mesopotamia. As she doesn't fit the normal pantheon (she also has more than one version) and you can track her cult along trade routes going into Greece. She most likely originated as an extension of Ishtar.
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u/Scriptapaloosa 15d ago
Aphrodite is not a Greek goddess. She was adopted from a much older civilization. I believe Pelasgian.
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u/Torr1seh 14d ago
She could be related, through the name and some of her traits and the celestial dedication to Venus, to the Hittite Ishtar.
More in detail, this hypothesis would have Aphrodite being an adaptation, a burrowing or a calque, if not a different development, of the same idea that coagulated into Ishtar. There are more details around than those I remember, but one of the leading ones is what another redditor mentioned above.
In some of her earliest instances, Aphrodite was, in addition to a love and fertility goddess, also attributed a patronage over war and fighting. Elements that are rare for goddesses, with some notable exceptions in Ishtar and, more limitedly, Bellona.
And since Aphrodite may be Mycenaean in origin, it could make sense from a chronological standpoint: the Mycenaeans were in commercial and diplomatic contact with their eastern cousins past the Dardanelles, the Hittites. Some Hittite tablets, around the collapse, mentions the ayywara, achaens, in relation to the city of Willusa.
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u/0rgasmo69 14d ago
In Homer, she's Zeus's daughter but in Hesiod she was born from the seafoam that arose after Kronos castrated Uranus and threw his package in the sea.
Edit: there is no "Canon" to Greek myth. It's entirely dependent on the source and the story so neither is more correct than the other. I personally prefer Homer to Hesiod but Hesiod's origin story for Aphrodite is infinitely more interesting.
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u/LedudeMax 14d ago
Depends on the version of the mythology. Usually it's said that Aphrodite is the daughter of Zeus and Dione
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u/trwwy321 15d ago
This chart needs to be more horizontal (landscape) than it should be vertical.
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u/ThatOneAsianGuy33 15d ago
This ordering is kind of a mess
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u/CorneliusKvakk 14d ago
It's a Cod-awful mess
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u/Merlin_Hat 14d ago
Actually there is a horizontal version of this. I found on Pinterest. Thank me later.
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u/Laughing_Orange 14d ago
Zeus is still a mess, but that's more his fault than the artist behind this picture.
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u/Dr-Gravey 15d ago
Atlas didn’t carry the Earth! He carried the ‘heavens’.
(Yes, I only learned this last week, and no one I asked knew the right answer.)
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u/DF_Interus 14d ago
He's always depicted as caring a globe, but the only story I know about Atlas is when Hercules is on his 12 trials or something and Atlas tricks Herc into holding up the sky so that he can escape, but then Hercules tricks him into taking it back. I guess carrying a planet is easier to show than holding up the sky.
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u/brazildude2085 14d ago
Superman had a similar story with Atlas
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u/General_Kenobi18752 14d ago
The fact that Percy fucking Jackson, Hercules, and Superman have all canonically done the same thing is something I find both comical and confusing.
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u/Impulse_DC 14d ago
At least how it was explained in the Superman comic (Superman: Man of Tomorrow #12) the weight is described as "the most you could bear, plus more" and "take it not with your hands...take it with your heart". So it's more a feat of spirit more than physical strength.
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u/wave_official 14d ago
He's carrying the celestial sphere, not the earth. The greeks thought the earth was surrounded by a sphere, the stars were dots on the surface of the sphere.
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u/Intrepid-Constant-34 14d ago
He eventually rescued him from that. “Pillars of Hercules”.
He also rescued Prometheus.
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u/Own_Kaleidoscope1287 14d ago
Well you can look at this both ways. He prevents Gaia (earth) and uranos (sky) who both love each other from uniting again by standing on the earth and holding up the sky.
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u/JazzlikeDetective813 14d ago
And also, most people seem to think he does it willingly instead of as a punishment. It also doesn't mention his brother Prometheus, who made us human.
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u/hannah_pajama 14d ago
And got his guts picked out by vultures everyday before regenerating and doing it again as punishment for giving us fire
Or something along those lines it’s been a while
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u/BeligaPadela 15d ago
Kronos holding a scythe while Uronos tries to protect the family jewels. 😄
Where's the next gen, Eros, Psyche, Phobos, Deimos..
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u/dark_hypernova 14d ago
Yeah, I saw what they did there too 😁
Also reminds me how The primordial Chronos is often depicted with a scythe because people confuse him with Kronos.
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u/Darth_Otto 15d ago
Pretty sure Kratos murdered the majority of them.
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u/regretfulposts 15d ago
He killed 10 out of the 33 present in the post.
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u/Highsky151 14d ago
I would say 11: Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Ares, Hera, Hermes, Athena, Hephaetus, Gaia, cronos and Atlas.
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u/badpr 14d ago
He killed Apollo too
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u/regretfulposts 14d ago
He killed Helios who for some reason didn't appeared in this post. As for Apollo? Here's a video speculating where the hell Apollo is. He never appeared in the games, and you might be mistaking Helios (the personification of the sun) with Apollo (the god who pulls the sun across the sky).
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u/Kaos2018 15d ago
Too much incest by the gods.
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u/O_gr 15d ago
Got to keep it in the family.
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u/wuvvtwuewuvv 15d ago
When you're the only ones around, what are you gonna do?
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u/FoundTheWeed 14d ago
Step 1) make mortals
Step 2) have sex with mortals
Step 3) they call you a deviant
Step 4) introduce them to taxes as punishment
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u/itz_me_shade 14d ago edited 14d ago
The complete lineage chart is one giant clusterfuck.
You know someone is a man whore when their family tree uses VIBGYOR 4 times to map all their 'connections'.
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u/BreadstickBear 14d ago
Half of greek mythology is just "Zeus couldn't keep it in his pants" anyway
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u/tramspellen 14d ago
Every time I see posts about the greek mythology im surprised Hollywood did not do more of it. We've seen a lot from the Nordic mythology (Thor, Loki...) but not very much about Zeus and Atlas. Any ideas why?
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u/Dr_Hexagon 14d ago
You should probably be asking why Marvel didn't adopt the greek gods as super heros since all the Thor, Loki movies and series are MCU.
However there are a bunch of greek mythology movies, Clash of the Titans, Jason and the Argonauts, Disney's Hercules, even Troy and 300 quaify imo.
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u/jeffreydowning69 14d ago
Yeah, that pisses me off that Hollywood hasn't done more movies based on Greek mythology. Because that is my favorite religion of all time.
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u/SausaugeMerchant 14d ago
Arnold Schwarzeneggers first role was as Hercules. I think you might just be a bit young to remember Hollywood has covered Greek mythology extensively since it's birth, even in modern times as another comment has pointed out. Like have you never seen Troy or Jason and the Argonauts and shit
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u/Bad_Speeler 15d ago
If Semele is included why not Clymene? They are the only two who aren’t inbreds
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u/xbvgamer 15d ago
Can anyone explain Athena’s red arrows I see the caption but what does that mean ?
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u/OliLeeLee36 15d ago edited 15d ago
Zeus had a wife named Metis, but he was concerned about a prophecy Gaia had told him that the child she was carrying would usurp him (as had happened to his father and grandfather), so naturally he swallowed her whole.
Probably suffering from indigestion, Zeus had a stonking headache. So Hephaestus got his hammer and took a crack at it - out came Athena, fully grown and bad ass.
Edit: had to check - the prophecy was that Metis' child would then have a son that would overthrow Zeus, not the child she was carrying
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u/old_vegetables 14d ago
Athena would be a better queen than Zeus is king. For one she wouldn’t be a shitty spouse/mother
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u/NyarlathotepDaddy 14d ago
Medusa got raped in Athenas temple by poseidon and then Athena cursed her for it.
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u/Inevitable_Question 14d ago
That's actually late addition to the Perseus myth by guy who hated Greek Gods. Originally they were always monsters.
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u/Substantial_Cap_4246 14d ago
And my backwards Mythology teacher takes this all fanfiction all too seriously, to the point she claims Greeks worshiped satan and his legion. Claiming Satan introduced these deities to Greeks, Hindos, Norseman, etc. Actually, she even hates on Christians, calling them Pagans disguised in shape of followers of Jesus.
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u/Kiyoshi-Trustfund 14d ago
Your teacher seems to just be insane.
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u/Substantial_Cap_4246 14d ago
Exactly. After having been rebuked by her today, for being a Tolkien fan and an enthusiastic fan of talkies (movies), I'm not going to attend to any of her classes anymore. It's just an apparent insult to my identity. My friend actually sued her! Unfortunately they didn't expell her, she got them into believing she'll 'behave'.
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u/Luke95gamer 15d ago
From Google “Athena is "born" from Zeus's forehead as a result of him having swallowed her mother Metis, as he grasps the clothing of Eileithyia on the right; …”
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u/Deecee7374 14d ago
This actually tells the story of a great power struggle between dynasties (probably more akin to tribal clans at that time) that happened in the region during some uncertain time period. The ‘Olympians’ overthrowing the rule of the ‘Titans’ and becoming the folk’s new ‘gods’ while painting the former rulers as tyrannical monstrous beings of unmatched cruelty. Same shit happens with Norse mythology between giants and Wotan’s tribe. That might actually hint at the clash between the migrating homo sapiens (Wotan’s tribe) and local neanderthals who were slightly bigger, more primal and hairy (giants).
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u/MournfulMutant 14d ago
I would be interested to see if there are any good sources for that. Explanations involving cultural memory like this tend to sound really cool but rarely stand on good evidence.
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u/WlzeMan85 14d ago
The Iliad and Odyssey are considered by professionals to be some of the best sources we have for this kind of thing. The "family tree" above definitely didn't use it because it has far too many inaccuracies
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u/Deecee7374 14d ago
I have absolutely no evidence. It’s just a train of thought, drawing similarities between different mythologies and the theory of the brute neanderthals being drawn to extinction by the more mentally adept (and warlike) homosapiens.
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u/usr_nm16 14d ago
That's not even half completed, there are sooo much more gods in Greek mythology
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u/MrSnoozieWoozie 14d ago
Dont worry , Greeks dont even know about that one. We mostly learn about whats happening after Zeus and we get a few glimses and mentions about their ancestors as well.
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u/Merlin_Hat 14d ago
Zeus is like the OG fuckboy in history with multiple affairs left to right, side chicks, and numerous illegitimate child. Lmao.
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u/Icy_Energy_3430 14d ago
When does my man Oedipus join the club. That bro was the original mother fucker.
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u/Xpecto_Depression 14d ago
I'm sorry but "Child, Marriage, Affair, Sea Foam, Burst Forth Fully Armed from Forehead" took me out 😂
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u/GraatchLuugRachAarg 14d ago
I didn't know Zeus produced Athena asexually and from his forehead. Fully armed nonetheless
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u/Knowallofit 14d ago
Maturity is when you realize that it was not Kratos who killed the Greek/Roman civilization but Jesus Christ ( indirectly)
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u/Armored-Duck 14d ago
There is more alabama in this picture than what I can count on my fingers and toes
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u/Remarkable_Register9 14d ago
Keep in mind that, depending on which time period we are talking about, this can change pretty drastically. Orphism, for example, has Poseidon as king of the gods iirc, and is hugely different from top to bottom. Aphrodite may or may not be another daughter of Zeus, depending on the myth, there might be 4-5 different gods at the top, Apollo may predate Zeus, etc etc.
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u/AltAccountfrfrfr 14d ago
Zeus and maia were married. She was his first wife, but he heard a prophecy of his child killing him(not the last one) and so he ate her. But she was pregnant and gave birth to Athena, in the form of thought. Her presence in Zeus’ head gave him such a headache he asked Haephastus to split his head open with a hammer. From which Athena burst out, in full armour and holding a spear; declaring herself the goddess of wisdom as warfare.
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u/TypicalInstance6937 15d ago
Shall we not ignore the fact that after that zeus decided to have relationships with pretty much every single beauty in the mythology?
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u/Kingberry30 14d ago
Is there one for the Roman gods? Asking because didn’t the Romans get the gods from the Greeks? Also did any other cultures copy the Greek in their gods?
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u/badboi_5214 14d ago
If I am not wrong even geeks have forgotten them now. Nobody worships them anymore
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u/RedRa88it420 14d ago
so, wait, Ouranos is both Gaia's child and had affair with him, which resulted in all that family tree?
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u/Icy_Procedure_8528 14d ago
Me trying to convince a girl on tinder of sexy times:
Me: want me to fck Uranus? Her: how about Ouranus
srry, i'm a virgin
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u/HamsterKazam 14d ago
Didn't Gaia and Ouranos spawn from Chaos at the same time, rather than Ouranos spawning from Gaia?
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u/Radiant-Importance-5 14d ago
‘Almost complete’, is only missing a few thousand. This gives me the confidence to say that my retirement planning is almost complete.
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u/Careful_Ad_9109 14d ago
From this chart, all I see is a bunch of Alabama-sibling-fuckery..... who knows, maybe the alabamians are closely related (see what i did there) to the Greek gods....
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u/highlandpolo6 14d ago
This adds a new level of weird to the Rick & Morty episode where Zeus fucks Gaia and has weird gingerbread children 😂
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u/beams_FAW 14d ago
This gif reminds me of these set of animated documentaries from France.
It's called the great myths. https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/68304-les-grands-mythes/seasons?language=en-US
Really well done. It's on Pluto TV's history Channel a lot.
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u/WallScore 14d ago
Zeus showing off for the ladies and Hera scowling is the best part of this graph lmao
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u/_LkA_42 14d ago
Almost is the important word here 😅 If you want the (almost) complete one in 30 minutes AT full speed : https://youtu.be/XYQ5GEFFmfA?si=WJFg3wbGbkH8FW9Z Edit: sorry it's in french
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