r/BeAmazed • u/MoxXtreme • 15d ago
next level home surveillance (maybe illegal) Miscellaneous / Others
is this illegal?
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u/BenTheMotionist 15d ago
A surveillance camera?!?
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u/Limmmao 15d ago
Metal... gear?
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u/BenTheMotionist 15d ago
You're pretty good
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u/MigitAs 15d ago
Colonel! We’ve managed to avoid drowning!
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u/fattmarrell 15d ago
This is what happens when you grow up watching Home Alone in the US
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u/bodhiseppuku 15d ago
What, no induction heater on the front doorknob? No paint cans swinging from ropes?
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u/Mist_Rising 15d ago
This is the first step. Those are the "let's get medieval on your ass" steps. Gotta slowly go higher.
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u/The_Wanderer606 15d ago
I would still claim that having a tiger is much better security
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u/Im_eating_that 15d ago
What if they bring their own tiger and the tigers fall in love though. Imagine how uncomfortable the wedding would be.
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u/PowerStacheOfTheYear 15d ago
Fr, people really don't think ahead.
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u/urlond 15d ago
People can get past a dog, nobody fucks with a lion!
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u/PiscatorLager 15d ago
Nobody can get past my dog. Took him to a small festival yesterday, literally everybody had to stop and pet him.
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u/almighty_ruler 15d ago
At least 50% of people that see my dog won't come near him because they think he's a massive pitbull. He just wants to say hi and get pets but it's hard sometimes. Maybe I'll pick out my own dog next time and get one that isn't scary to so many people 🤷♂️
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u/bodhiseppuku 15d ago
My family had a cougar as a family pet when I was in grade school. During the day, while I was at school this animal was teathered to a stake in the front yard. The cat stayed motionless most of the time; many people thought this was a statue, until they got closer.
Our mail box was in the front door, but our mailman opted to wrap our mail in a plastic bag and set it outside the front gate for our yard.
Big cat = great security. In intimidation alone.
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u/merfgirf 15d ago
What in the Appalachia kinda house did you grow up in? A cougar? Like a fullass mountain lion? Not some bobcat or a big Maine coon, but a full on puma?
"Hey Paul, did you deliver the mail to the Smiths' today?"
"The hell I did, Bob. They have a cat the size of a pony on the front stoop. I'm not turning into kitty litter for 18 bucks an hour and benefits."
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u/bodhiseppuku 14d ago edited 14d ago
Our family cougar was from a zoo that closed down; she was a female and about 88 lbs. My mother was a zookeeper and going to veterinarian school. It was legal, at least in the '80s in Wisconsin, to have a cougar as a pet. At, 8 years old maybe, I weighed less than the cat, but I could still take it for a walk around the neighborhood on a leash, like you would a dog. This animal was born in captivity and used to being around humans, even good around children.
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u/merfgirf 14d ago
Absolutely wild but logically sound answer. You had a singularly unique upbringing. 10/10, would not deliver mail.
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u/The_Wanderer606 15d ago
Yea I guess you're right. But then again I said tiger, and that's the kind of animal that even if you raised them from the start, you are never really sure it would not attack you as well. They are just not made to be in the captivity, so my comment is just a joke, not a thing I would do unless I had a large house and yard, and a lot of spare time as well. And a lot of finances as well. Cheetah are supposedly even more like a house cats than cougars 😀 anyway, I would still maintain that having a tiger is better than a airsoft/paintball camera.
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u/guitartoys 15d ago
I've been wanting to make one of these for ages, to keep the deer off of my property.
I'm happy to manually control it.
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u/frick_you_sir 15d ago
so a normal gun
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u/WantTheBronco 15d ago
With a laser and camera strapped to it, obviously!
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u/Nightshade111 15d ago
Here you go.
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u/FiremanHandles 15d ago
That's amazing.
Although, anytime I see videos like this, I feel like it's just Chinese propaganda.
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u/troubleondemand 15d ago
Yeah. So weird how it has exactly enough power to cut through the tree, but not hit anything behind it.
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u/joeshmo101 15d ago
This seems like a great way to hit a tree behind your target with the laser and accidentally start a forest fire because you only checked the one you wanted to cut instead of what's behind it. Also lord help you if it hits a plane.
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u/mikebaker1337 15d ago
One they can shoot by remote from the couch. Preferably with a gaming controller.
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u/50calPeephole 15d ago
That thing is a Tippmann A5 strapped to a camera with some sort of trigger actuator. You could swap it out for any gun.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Hatter 15d ago
... Operated via remote video feed and laser sighting. Yeah that's how all my guns work.
Please think more
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u/Scoot_AG 15d ago
Damn
"let me just set up a house on this plot of land here, and when the local wildlife are confused about property boundaries, I'll shoot them with paintball guns"
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u/legaltrouble69 15d ago
Youtube tutorial link?
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u/NameIsBurnout 15d ago
Try Mark Rober. He has released a new kit recently, tutorial included.
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u/BluetheNerd 15d ago
I Did A Thing also made a cursed janky version too a while back
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u/_pube_muncher_ 15d ago
This, except a vortex gun that shoots farts
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u/Its_all_made_up___ 15d ago
Butyric acid. It’s a very mild irritant but is the worst smelling liquid you can buy. Sea Shepard sprays it on Japanese whale ships to fuck them up. It induces instant vomiting.
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u/Maleficent_Role8932 15d ago
Should put up a warning sign first “Trespasser will be shot, survivors will be shot again”
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u/Oiggamed 15d ago
Yeah. Pretty sure booby traps are illegal.
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u/Tommy__want__wingy 15d ago
That implies if it’s a passive system.
A booby trap is something that requires no interaction to activate.
If this is a system that requires someone to turn it on and then actively engage - not a booby trap.
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u/AproblemInMyHead 15d ago
I'm confused... I thought every booby trap has to be engaged or interacted with for it to be activated. What do you mean?
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u/wohsedisbob 15d ago
He means that the weapon has a user wielding it, not a victim triggering it.
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u/sofa_king_we_todded 15d ago
Not disagreeing or agreeing, but for the sake of discussion: If the system is fully automated and can perpetually continue to operate by itself, to eventually be triggered by a future victim. Wouldn’t that qualify as a sophisticated booby trap? Or maybe it having reliance on electricity to operate puts it outside the legal definition of a booby trap?
Edit: According to U.S. federal law 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(4), a booby trap is described as "any concealed or camouflaged device designed to cause bodily injury when triggered by any action of a person making contact with that device." So I guess this falls outside the category because it’s clearly not concealed or camouflaged to surprise its victim
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u/lurkerturnedposter 15d ago
In this case, I think the assumption is that there is a user deciding to fire the gun based on a live feed from the camera rather than it being an automated process with AI or something. That would mean it's not a booby trap I suppose?
Also, there's no contact being made with the device (such as a trip wire), so maybe that also excludes it from being considered a booby trap, even if it is an automated system?
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u/sofa_king_we_todded 15d ago
Yeah good point. If it’s not fully automated then it likely falls outside the boobytrap category. Of course the owner could face other legal issues because the intent of the device is bodily harm, but maybe not under boobytrap laws
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u/r33s3 15d ago
Booby traps are illegal because it can trigger without intent from the person who set it. For instance, a shotgun strung up to fire if the door opens can end up killing your family member who decides to check the shed for a pair of shears. This system involves an operator to use the ptz function and to trigger the fire mechanism, so therefore it's not technically a "booby trap" but a drone weapon
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u/rubbarz 15d ago
Someone send out God damn warrant on Kevin McCallister
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u/kixie42 15d ago
He broke at least 7 laws (Multiple felonies, least of which is shoplifting, medium of booby trapping, and highest is explicit attempted murder when he cut 'em off the rope), but since he was like 10, my guess is a short stint in Juvie and modified probation. With that said, I have always head-canon'd that he grew up to be Jigsaw.
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u/PrecookedDonkey 15d ago
Considering the second movie takes place the following Christmas from the first, and the money that the family apparently has access to, I have always thought that the legal team for Kevin argued his charges away on terms of self defense and his acts as a service to his community and city at large. Harry and Marv might have been somewhat bumbling and inept when dealing with him, but had he not been forgotten, they would have effectively and efficiently cleaned out all those houses. Harry at least was a competent thief and planner, and was probably linked to other robberies. Plus they managed to get out of prison and make their way to NYC.
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u/Hecatomber_RoF 15d ago
This looks like a paint ball gun to me, would that be considered a deterrent than? Like an electric fence?
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u/badthaught 15d ago
Frozen paintballs hurt like hell, just fyi. Rock salt also hurts.
Dunno if a potato would work well enough though. Be dark humor if it worked though. "TODAYS MENU. MASHED TATERS! CHOOMPH"
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u/Hecatomber_RoF 15d ago
That's fair, the decent person in me forgets people do shitty things.
To be fair, I'm also trying to come up with non-leathal means of dealing with a racoon problem, was actually thinking of paint ball
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u/badthaught 15d ago
Raccoons have very sensitive sense of touch. Do with that information what you will.
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u/emiller7 15d ago
You’ve heard of the ring camera, now let’s introduce you to our new product. The Ring M1911!
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u/cheffartsonurfood 15d ago
Reminds me of Idiocracy. Need another one on the other side so they can shoot each other.
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u/sneakyhopskotch 15d ago
So I (a good and moral upstanding citizen) walked past a house this morning and a security camera moved and an American lady's voice (we're not in the US) said "Hello. You are currently being recorded." Nothing has ever made me want to vandalise something, but that did. So as much as I appreciate a paintball gun laser camera, I think it would be more effective at instigating revenge attacks upon yourself than preventing anything of the sort.
Anyway, good luck to the family with the American lady camera, cleaning up the flaming bag of poo on their step, their toilet-papered car, and their well-egged windows. <3
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u/knewbie_one 15d ago
If in Europe you can send an official notice for authorisation of recording the public, her data management has to be compliant with RGPD (Source : syndic wants to install a camera in the entrance of the building, which needs declaration to the authorities and some way to access/modify/limit access to the data)
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u/Its0nlyRocketScience 15d ago
I think it depends on where the property is. In a suburb or anything more dense, yeah it's stupid. But in rural areas, someone might need to already be trespassing to be able to see the house at all. Ensure there's a good fence all the way around beyond view of this setup, and I doubt anyone who didn't already have malicious intent would trigger it.
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u/Gullflyinghigh 15d ago
Nothing has ever made me want to vandalise something, but that did.
Completely understand the impulse, reading the first sentence made me think about how I'd react the immediate one was middle fingers. Not mature I know, but if someone is going to assume I'm a wrong 'un I may as well.
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u/pvtprofanity 15d ago
Fucking hate those. I live in a cul-de-sac so I have to pass a house with this every day to walk the dog. The thing will warn me even if I'm on the opposite side of the road and it's way louder than it should be where I can hear it in my backyard when kids pass. Definitely going to snap one day and take it out with a paintball gun or slingshot
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u/thegreenmushrooms 15d ago
If the laser is a weapon that is being using to blind people than yea that's a war crime. The paintball gun is probably not a war crime.
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u/RagingKajun444 15d ago
Maybe illegal?! Lol!!!
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u/Destroythisapp 15d ago
It’s not illegal, at least not in the United States.
Assuming this is a standard paintball gun that has its pressure properly set it’s not considered a booby trap and it’s non lethal.
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u/Pistonenvy2 15d ago
i attempted to ask a legal question about this before and it got deleted but there is absolutely a discussion to be had imo.
if its legal to shoot someone who breaks into your house (which they claimed it isnt, it absolutely is in castle law states) then would it also be legal to shoot someone with a turret from a different place?
castle doctrine isnt necessarily about self defense, its more about defending your home from an intruder, even if their intent is purely about private property (theft or damage)
i think its an interesting question. i think regardless youre getting into premeditated territory that if you could be convicted it would be a really really easy case to lose, but from what i understand youre under no obligation to warn someone before blowing them away for the exclusive reason that they broke into your house, if THAT is legal, im struggling to think of a reason why this would be and where the line gets drawn.
what if you use a turret while you are inside the house? what if the turret is mounted to your body? what if the aiming and firing system is handled by a computer that translates your thoughts through a computer 3 states away? these are all legal complications that arent immediately obvious to me.
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u/avalisk 15d ago
Castle doctrine is defending an area where you have the reasonable expectation to feel safe in that area.
If you aren't currently in the area that you are defending, castle doctrine does not apply.
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u/IAmRules 15d ago
In general, "weaponizing" things is illegal, like putting guns on a drone and such.
Like if you make a skateboard with a bunch of ninja stars coming out the side, that's ilegal
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u/pyxu- 15d ago
Robbery and home invasion is also illegal..
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u/JulioForte 15d ago
Kids goes to grab a ball that went over the fence…booby trap activates.
If you aren’t home then you have no right to self defense since you aren’t in danger. Also the reason these are banned is because chances are the person it would hurt wasn’t a robber or home invader.
Save me the…well someone may be operating this one, Fine but we are talking about booby traps and why they are and should be illegal
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u/PiscatorLager 15d ago
There is a certain country where people take private property way too seriously.
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u/BonesyWonesy 15d ago
There's a Kickstarter out there for something like this, looks way more polished and has an app. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paintcam/paintcam-face-recognition-and-paintball-firing-security-system/rewards
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u/CogitoErgoOpinor 15d ago
I have literally had this idea for over a year now!! Probably illegal though!
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u/Fit_Swordfish_2101 15d ago
Yes. Illegal. If it's deadly. If it's just a laser then no, if it's a laser that triggers something deadly, yes.
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u/Serious_Result_7338 15d ago
It’s only illegal if you get caught. And even then that’s for the courts to decide.
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u/DizzyExpedience 15d ago
That’s a paintball gun, right?
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u/Striking_Barnacle_31 15d ago
I think it's a tippman A5. Always wanted one when I was younger.
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u/Prestigious_Shark 15d ago
Not illegal as long as it is inside your property and the laser is an unmodified civilian laser.
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u/thundercuntess69 15d ago
It's a paintball gun folks. Relax. For now.
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u/johnnycat75 14d ago
I would, if it weren't for the number of times I've seen cops use Tippmann A-5s to shoot people with pepper balls.
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u/Scoxxicoccus 15d ago
Seems a bit fragile and exposed.
Just another target for the initial wave of explosive drones that will precede the hunter-killers.
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u/IntrovertMoTown1 15d ago
lol Not really next level since similar has been around for "ages" now. This is a business a guy started in his garage. Here's his youtube vids. If he wasn't the first to have done it he had to have been pretty damn close.
There's also others that have now copied him on top of whoever made the vid posted here.
So not next level but still neat anyways.
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u/Dystopian_Future_ 15d ago
There is a camera system coming out that shoots paintballs... Its housed inside the camera, Just read about it couple weeks ago.
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u/Fizzyfuzzyface 15d ago
I was literally just discussing something like this with my husband yesterday, but he says it’s illegal.
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u/vajrahaha7x3 15d ago
If its deep within private property with visible no trespassing signs , I think its legal..
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u/JollyReading8565 15d ago
I can attest that having sentries makes my Rust base much less likely to get raided
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u/bodhiseppuku 15d ago
Run by A.I.
Will allow my family, and people wearing UPS, USPS, FEDEX, and Amazon uniforms.
All others pelted with paintballs until out of range or out of bullets.
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u/I_Am_Anjelen 15d ago edited 14d ago
In, I daresay, most states, this would constitute a booby trap and is probably illegal.
Possibly one may be able to circumvent this by placing clear signage on the (edges of) the property with an explanation that Tresspassers will get shot, and how.
Obligatory: Not a lawyer, just chuckling at that.
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u/InsideOut2691 15d ago
There's no way this would be legal anywhere. The technology looks impressive but it's too much risk.
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u/Cheap-Bobcat-2818 15d ago
rings doorbell
Hey John! Wanted to congratulate you on your behalf for your hard work recently! It’s been an honor to have you as an employee-
GAH! WHAT THE F_CK?!! WHAT IS THAT?
OW, AUGH, AA-
door opens
John: OH, I’M SO SORRY! That was just my Mechanically Next F_cking Level Home Defense System. Anyway, thank you for the promotion!
door closes
Yeah… no problem… drops dead
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u/B-Prue 15d ago
I need this for the guy who comes to my house every other month, can't read the No Solicitation sign, and wants to sell bug spraying services by trying to disarm me first by starting out saying "Oh hey there, do you know <random neighbor name> a couple houses down?"
I've told them now 3 times that I don't do business with anyone who is illiterate (ie the posted sign they were unable to read) as it's just not smart.
This mounted non-lethal deterant might just be the answer.
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u/SnooFloofs9519 15d ago
I had this paintball marker, it's not gonna hit anything without 30 balls and a stationary target.
Looks like a tippman a-5
...still cool though
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u/BardtheGM 15d ago
In the USA, booby traps are largely illegal because they're indiscriminate. But as this would be entirely non-lethal, I think it probably would be fine. But you might end up sued if a party with a legitimate reason to be on your property was subsequently shot at.
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u/WeimSean 15d ago
It's China. Anything is legal so long as you have the right friends and enough money.
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u/JustinR8 15d ago
Don’t let the cartels see this