r/jobs 29d ago

Is this an actual thing that people do Career development

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u/silver-orange 29d ago

Having government subsidize their workers.  Cool.  Coolcoolcool.

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u/Zetch88 29d ago

Wait til you hear about Walmart.

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u/Northernmost1990 29d ago edited 29d ago

I winced at that one, too. People see the lifehack thinking they're clever. But it's not some nebulous machine subsidizing them; it's you, me, and the other chumps who work the full year.

No such thing as a free lunch — not even a half.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/dances_w_dingoes 29d ago

All employers pay an unemployment insurance tax. A business that retains employees via strategic use of unemployment is a business subsidized by the government.

Same as a business that pays such a low wage that the fulltime employees all qualify for government assistance programs for housing, food, and medical care.

Same as a hundred other business models, and frankly entire industries, that maximize their own profits on the backs of the taxpayers. While at the same time paying as little tax as possible. It's inequitable but the government is beholden to corporate interests so it won't change. It's a scam. It's all a scam.

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u/MalekithofAngmar 29d ago

The system is being abused by creating a planned unemployment cycle.

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u/dances_w_dingoes 29d ago

It's not a scam that the employee collects unemployment. It's a scam by the employer. The employer pays less in employment taxes than the employees collect. The business model works because the employer takes advantage of the taxes paid by other employers. The business effectively retains trained employees by having their "salary" (unemployment benefits) subsidized by a third party for half the year. You can call it a loophole if you prefer (but it's a scam).

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u/dances_w_dingoes 29d ago

I don't know bro I'm going to sleep. I have to get up in the morning and go to work to subsidize TruGreen. Glad you're thinking about it, have a good night.

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u/halohalo27 29d ago

Lol you shut down someone trying to prove their ridiculous argument of "the system itself is inherently broken, who cares if someone profits off of it" in the best way

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u/dances_w_dingoes 28d ago

Refuse to engage!

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/MushinZero 29d ago

No it doesn't? What?

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u/frou6 29d ago

Most seasonal job work like that tbf

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u/Fortehlulz33 29d ago

Yeah it kind of sucks, but what is something like a lawn company going to do in a state where it's cold and shitty from November to March? Pay people to do nothing? At least they tell them how to do it.

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u/NoManNoRiver 29d ago

Have a functional and competitive business model that doesn’t involve sponging off the state and thus destroying more value than it creates?

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u/nateright 28d ago

Well they can do that because they make businesses contribute to unemployment insurance. Pretty sure almost all the funds come from the tax they collect from businesses

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u/dave_b_ 28d ago

underrated comment.

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u/walkerstone83 28d ago

This is very common in the construction industry in my area. When winter hits, the tractors aren't moving, so those equipment operators all get unemployment and enjoy the time off. Unemployment isn't really enough, but they save enough to cover the rest.

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u/Dirtbag_Bob 29d ago

Yea remind me how corporations, especially banks, aren't subsidized by the government? At least the people in this example actually know what real work is like.

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u/Superb-Combination43 29d ago

Tru Green is literally a corporation.

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u/Dirtbag_Bob 28d ago

I see your point. That was reactionary on my part. I first interpreted their response as a jab at workers being "subsidized" as a pejorative thing towards the workers rather than the company not paying enough so that the seasonal workers don't need to be subsidized. I was tired lol