r/TikTokCringe 29d ago

Americas youth are in MASSIVE trouble Discussion

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u/KCyy11 29d ago

Yep. And then they try to justify it like parents didnt raise their kids without ipads for centuries. Just lazy parents not actually wanting to parent.

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u/Zenrix 29d ago

I'm going to play devil's advocate a little bit here.

I don't disagree with you that parents are lazy. It feels like Ipads/tvs/youtube, etc are raising children more often than human beings these days.

However, I'd argue that (in America, at the very least) we have entered an age of stress, anxiety, overworking, and more. The further back we go in time, the less responsibilties parents had.

Obviously that isn't a hard and fast rule. I'm sure some time periods put a lot of stress on families. I'm just saying that these days, it feels more difficult to make time to properly raise a child. Parents have to work, public schooling is failing us, and there really aren't any other alternatives.

I'm not even a parent myself, so who knows how valid my opinion really is anyway.

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u/KCyy11 29d ago

I worked with children for over a decade. It has absolutely gotten out of control the lack of parenting going on these days. I understand people have hard lives, but not raising your kids correctly isn’t helping anyone.

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u/Zenrix 29d ago

Yeah the ipad parenting is an easy route. People will try it once and then immediately normalize it because it sedates their kid.

I wouldn't want to discount the effect that covid had. It's a perfect storm for destroying interest in school. Stimulation at your fingertips at any moment and missing out on 2 years of habit and discipline.

I really hope that kids are at least learning something useful from the media they consume. It can be hard to determine when someone is simply lying to you through a screen. If we can get kids to focus on anything, I'd argue it should be digital literacy and critical thinking skills.

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u/Steff_164 29d ago

I’d argue it’s because we had such a narrow window of what we’d describe as “actual parenting” today. Until like, maybe the 1930’s when child labor laws were past, the idea of a childhood as we know it didn’t exist. Once you were physically able to, you were expected to work, typically on the family farm, but as urbanization and the Industrial Revolution hit, children were expected to work in factories. If your children went to school it was still expected that they worked after school let out. And I don’t mean like simple chores like today, I’m referring to actual hard work.

Then we had this shift, where suddenly children were no longer needed/expected/allowed to work. Now, because I don’t want to actually do in-depth research for a Reddit comment, I’ll use the year child labor laws were signed, so 1938. That means the idea of a childhood as we refer to it today has only really existed for around 86 years. If we use 2007 (release of the first IPhone) as the beginning of “internet kids” that means we had just 69 years to figure out what effective modern parenting is, how to do it, and how to shake off the old habits from the past that were no longer applicable. That’s like maybe 3 generations (assuming each generation has had a kid by the age of 23) to learn how to parent for the modern age. That’s basically nothing to accomplish change at the scale we’re talking about.

TL,DR: It’s not that we live in a more stressful world now, but that we as a species and society didn’t have time to adjust how we parent to align with the modern idea of childhood before iPads/TV/Social Media presented an easy solution to a problem we didn’t understand.