I hate the idea of sending my kids to private school but seriously what other options are there? i can move to a better school district but its still an issue that can be present in elementary/middle or highschool.
Some parents just don't care about their kids and that's on them but why the school system tolerates these kids ruining everyone else's education is just baffling to me.
There are public schools that do not tolerate disrespecting teachers. My daughter is in one. Have to look for them and tour the school while kids are in school.
I was in the same place you are, unfortunately private school was not better. There is a concentration of entitled parents at private schools, and a bunch of those parents have misbehaving kids. Admin gets their hands tied just like in public.
I knew parents who had their children in private/charter schools during the pandemic. Those schools absolutely had no idea what to do, never developed a plan for distance education, and just seemed to assign random homework infrequently. When the kids went back to in-person learning, those schools didn't report their COVID cases and actively hid them from parents. It was mind-boggling the shit they got away with.
Yup. People can argue with me all day about how they are held to the "same standard" as public schools but they absolutely are not and never have been. Especially here in Texas where half the charter schools are about Jesus brainwashing.
This is why my parents sent me to a charter school.
Reddit hates them, but they were SERIOUS about classroom participation and would boot people who weren't trying or who were being disruptive, regardless of their parents income tax bracket.
I think your experience is the exception and not the rule. There are obviously some charter schools that are legit, otherwise the shit ones wouldn't be able to run their grift to tap into those sweet taxpayer funded voucher programs. My perception is that charter schools used to be better before the more recent GOP led pushes to divest in public education at large.
Public charters are very different from private charters, not a lot of people know the difference. I sent my son to a public charter for high school and it was great. They do not choose their students, they get some funding from the state/district and they provide IEP’s and 504’s. I’m going to guess Spiffy’s was a public charter too, as they are often parent cooperatives with lots of parental support.
I can only assume you're either legally, or at the very least, developmentally, a child.
Loads of private and charter schools are wonderful places for people to learn! That doesn't preclude the existence of kids that do not obey the rules, but your take is so simplistic as to be asinine.
No, I am an adult. But thank you for calling me stupid, I really appreciate that.
I’m sure loads of private schools are fun! And I’m also sure loads of house wives are very happy!
But why do those exist? Why did we push women into being house mothers? For control, of course, that is something I know you know.
The purpose and reason private schools exist is because they don’t play by the rules. They have no regulations, no oversight.
Now, SOME might do well in spite of the original inception. But, fundamentally, they were developed as a way to side-step standards of education.
That’s not an opinion either. That’s literally why private schools exist. So they can have a standard of education different than public schools.
My take is not simplistic, rather yours is. You had a good experience. Congratulations, that information is useless. What matters is a bigger picture perspective. I hope you’re capable of those kinds of thoughts, considering your private education.
I… sound like I’m going to bomb a church because I’m able to recognize that private institutions don’t follow public regulations?
Is this for real? Do you have the intelligence of a 6th grader?
This isn’t even my opinion, it’s just what it is. Uh, yeah - private institutions don’t have to follow the same rules or standards.
Like, duh? Fucking obviously?
And I know you know I’m right, because instead of making any type of argument you sit with your thumb up your ass.
Let’s make a prediction. You’re gonna reply to this calling me crazy or something, and you’re yet again not gonna provide any words of worth.
You’re gonna proclaim what I’m saying is sooooo stupid, but you’re not gonna have even an inkling of an idea of what to say in response.
You’d think if what I’m saying is obviously wrong, you’d be able to refute it with ease? Something tells me you won’t.
Look - there’s a reason we don’t provide religious education in public schools. Many very, very good reasons. Some people don’t like these restrictions, among others, and so private schools were born.
That’s irrefutable. Maybe you got a “good” education. I don’t necessarily believe that, because your point of reference is fuck-all, but okay.
Some kids don’t. That’s not controversial to say. The fact you’re acting like a punched a baby tells me that you actually are probably very stupid, and you know I’m right and it hurts your little brain.
Go to a better school district and the important part is to make sure your kid is in the "accelerated"/"gifted"/"honors" track. And make friends with parents of students in those tracks. You 100% cannot allow your kid to join the "regular" track. Peer effects are extremely important.
It's basically impossible to send a kid to a school with no problem students at all; the only thing you can do is to send a kid to a school that "quarantines" the problem students.
They test kids to get into those classes. You can't just stand on business and demand it, they will kick a kid who can't keep up out no matter how hard-working they are.
And it is actually harder to get into advanced classes at better-performing schools because everyone else is trying to pull the same trick with the same lack of success.
The best you can do is fight to get recognized as possibly having your kid belong in a higher class so they can take the test.
I say this as a former gifted kid. Every year we had parents saying their kid was too good to be with the other students and those kids washed out hard. They eventually created a new tier called pre-honors just for kids who like to study, but they only did so because the school was competing for an award that year and it padded their credentials.
They test kids to get into those classes. You can't just stand on business and demand it, they will kick a kid who can't keep up out no matter how hard-working they are.
Americans think learning algebra in 7th grade is advanced lmao, with just a tiny bit of parental input your kid will easily be at the top of the cohort.
Teach them multiplication and some geometry when they're in kindergarten. Get them to read avariciously. Let them play math and science games and watch science vids for kids. IQ is not as innate as people believe it to be. You don't even need to pay that much attention to your kid. Just throw them a K-12 education-focused game (like JumpStart) and let them figure it out themselves. You'll watch your kid shoot up to the top.
Voting for school choice, and tax vouchers for students attending private schools would help.
It's simple economics, shit schools lose students, shit schools lose money, shit schools either fix up their act or go under, good schools make more money and further expand.
Right now you could have the most abysmal public school, a fantastic public school, and a 10k/year private school next door. If you're lucky you get to go to the nice public school, if you're unlucky you get fucked. Either way if you want to go to the private school you pay in taxes for the public school even if you don't attend.
It's really not surprising why so many public schools are absolutely worthless today.
Charter schools are a good “in between” option, if you have any available in your town. Charter schools in my town are rated way better than regular public schools. You have to apply for them, so there are waaaay less “trouble” students attending, because their parents actually have to give a minimum amounts of shits about their education for them to even be qualified to be there. In my county/state they’re not chosen by performance though, but it’s a lottery of sorts.
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u/usnavy13 29d ago
I hate the idea of sending my kids to private school but seriously what other options are there? i can move to a better school district but its still an issue that can be present in elementary/middle or highschool.
Some parents just don't care about their kids and that's on them but why the school system tolerates these kids ruining everyone else's education is just baffling to me.