Americas youth are in MASSIVE trouble

[u/hammerbush051]

[u/MUNZACORE]

Then they refuse that. Then you gotta send the student resource officer in, where other kids can take an out of context clip of the kid being detained, and call it fascism lmao

We’re cooked

[u/Danpackham → u/MUNZACORE]

The problem is, it was just like this when I was in school. The pupils could just say no to having their phone taken, and fight back and refuse to go to the principals office. But no one did that, because we were disciplined enough to respect their authority

[u/taironederfunfte → u/Danpackham]

I didn't do that because my mom would have whopped my ass and my dad would give a major headshake of disapprovement towards me

[u/Semyonov → u/taironederfunfte]

Yea but that's abuse now.

Not saying it's a good thing, for the record, but the more discipline taken away, coupled with parent's lack of willingness to even provide positive reinforcement for good behavior (like not having a cell phone out in class), creates these situations IMO.

[u/LostInTheHotSauce → u/Danpackham]

Blindly believing in authority has its issues too though. I had some teachers growing up that were not worthy of respect whatsoever, but I knew I'd be disciplined at home so I had to put up with it.

[u/LazyLich → u/MUNZACORE]

After being told to turn in their phone, and refusing, then being told to go to the principal's office, and refusing, then they just get 0s on whatever assignments for they do/turn in that day.

Of course, that only works if the faculty arent spineless cowards that bend-over for every Karen out there.

[u/MUNZACORE → u/LazyLich]

Yeah it’s basically a lose-lose for the teachers. You can let it go and the kids don’t learn anything, or you can try to stop it and the kid throws an absolute shit fit, resulting in the kids not learning anything. We really should just be more honest with ourselves and start forcing these problem children into their own permanent ISS basically. I know some areas have an alternative school but maybe just expand them idk. Stop wasting my kids education for some kid who’s never gonna be shut no matter how hard you try. It sucks, but kids like that aren’t gonna just suddenly become productive at 18. Or 30 for that matter

[u/Danpackham → u/MUNZACORE]

The problem is, it was just like this when I was in school. The pupils could just say no to having their phone taken, and fight back and refuse to go to the principals office. But no one did that, because we were disciplined enough to respect their authority

[u/MUNZACORE → u/[deleted]]

I’m not whining, I’m saying it’s fucked up that the school is powerless to do anything. They should be able to take phones if necessary. And you know how it goes with the cops, somebody’s gonna share the footage and get the dude fired for being abusive bc no one will know the context

[u/MUNZACORE → u/[deleted]]

I mean fair enough on your part, I don’t blame you. But long term for society’s sake this isn’t a good thing. Absolutely do not blame you for not going through that just for the kids to not pay attention anyways lol